Samsung and others OEMs have little incentive to collaborate with privacy-oriented roms because a large part of their business models depend on the surveillance baked into their technology. They’re only interested in security as far as it frees them from liability, or can be used as worthwhile PR. They might not be based out of the US or China, but they do still operate in said countries and are all too happy to comply with data or unlock requests.
It’s just their devices just aren’t up to standards. Of all, only Pixel phones have the security features GrapheneOS is looking for. If that isn’t indicative of the garbage that OEMs are putting out there, I don’t know what is.
Woah cool, this is the first time I’ve actually read about postmarketOS, other than seeing it mentioned occasionally, and it’s pretty neat to see it coming along!
I was skeptical of them at first when looking for 2nd-life OS’s. There were a lot of sketchy looking and not really “user-friendly” sites/forums (postmarketOS being one of them) that I avoided but decided to try it anyways. It’s been fun and I’ve enjoyed having a decent OS to tinker with and see what capabilities I can get out of defunct equipment.
If I could get a secure smartphone use out of them I’m gonna be ecstatic. Been staring at phones and GrapheneOS for the past two years but glad I didn’t jump onto something yet.
I once purchased a Lenovo A6000 as it’s community supported, but my unit seems to be unsupported revision and I just bricked it so hard on so many levels it’s now impossible to rescue it without directly connecting to the board, which might be more costly than getting another one.
I feel so proud of postmarketOS! I’ve been using them for 2nd life uses for phones, tablets, and chromebooks with very minimal problems. It’s like having an obscure band you follow all of a sudden getting mentioned everywhere and I couldn’t be happier for the project (like the 3rd time on Lemmy this week alone I’ve seen them mentioned).
If you have some scrap equipment throw it on and report your findings! There’s a lot of testing that needs done and information needs to flow. I’ve done a “recipe” notebook with an old chromebook, a tablet for easy video viewing I can send videos to (instead of making my partner come to the comp), and like 3 other devices that I haven’t finished with but pmOS will be a part of it.
Join their testing team if you have devices that aren’t listed! Unlike most requirements, if it’s not listed that just means it probably hasn’t been tested…not that it doesn’t work on your device. (they could probably also use some editors for their text instructions, it’s quite back and forth with links trying to find proper instructions).
paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno
on 24 Jun 05:20
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As much as we might want to romanticise the idea of spending 6, 12, 24 months attempting to come up with an even vaguely competitive alternative to systemd,
There are alternatives like runit, dinit, s6. About some of the more useful features of systemd, how about we recreate them without thight coupling to one specific init+service manager-in-one?
These exist already, they are the polyfills mentioned in the post. They even color coded how well each of them are maintained. So you can totally pick one up and contribute
threaded - newest
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grapheneos is not compatible with megacorpo philosophies
Samsung and others OEMs have little incentive to collaborate with privacy-oriented roms because a large part of their business models depend on the surveillance baked into their technology. They’re only interested in security as far as it frees them from liability, or can be used as worthwhile PR. They might not be based out of the US or China, but they do still operate in said countries and are all too happy to comply with data or unlock requests.
It’s just their devices just aren’t up to standards. Of all, only Pixel phones have the security features GrapheneOS is looking for. If that isn’t indicative of the garbage that OEMs are putting out there, I don’t know what is.
Woah cool, this is the first time I’ve actually read about postmarketOS, other than seeing it mentioned occasionally, and it’s pretty neat to see it coming along!
I was skeptical of them at first when looking for 2nd-life OS’s. There were a lot of sketchy looking and not really “user-friendly” sites/forums (postmarketOS being one of them) that I avoided but decided to try it anyways. It’s been fun and I’ve enjoyed having a decent OS to tinker with and see what capabilities I can get out of defunct equipment.
If I could get a secure smartphone use out of them I’m gonna be ecstatic. Been staring at phones and GrapheneOS for the past two years but glad I didn’t jump onto something yet.
Soon… Immutable postmarketOS
Declaritive postmarketOS
Re-write in Rust?
Kinda mobile-nixos, shame it’s semi-abandoned and difficult to get working :(
finally! I was on edge
I’d love to try it, but it supports no phones after 2021 and those are getting scarce on top of being “lackluster” to say the least.
I once purchased a Lenovo A6000 as it’s community supported, but my unit seems to be unsupported revision and I just bricked it so hard on so many levels it’s now impossible to rescue it without directly connecting to the board, which might be more costly than getting another one.
Whoa whoa whoa
What is dis?
I feel so proud of postmarketOS! I’ve been using them for 2nd life uses for phones, tablets, and chromebooks with very minimal problems. It’s like having an obscure band you follow all of a sudden getting mentioned everywhere and I couldn’t be happier for the project (like the 3rd time on Lemmy this week alone I’ve seen them mentioned).
If you have some scrap equipment throw it on and report your findings! There’s a lot of testing that needs done and information needs to flow. I’ve done a “recipe” notebook with an old chromebook, a tablet for easy video viewing I can send videos to (instead of making my partner come to the comp), and like 3 other devices that I haven’t finished with but pmOS will be a part of it.
Join their testing team if you have devices that aren’t listed! Unlike most requirements, if it’s not listed that just means it probably hasn’t been tested…not that it doesn’t work on your device. (they could probably also use some editors for their text instructions, it’s quite back and forth with links trying to find proper instructions).
@Cataphract is there any **brand new** device sold with #postmarketOS ? @cypherpunks
Nope, only with other linux phone brands
PostmarketOS is like the name says for EoL devices, not brand new ones
I’m out
you can still use OpenRC instead if you want, and sxmo will continue to do so by default.
you can read here about why they added systemd.
There are alternatives like runit, dinit, s6. About some of the more useful features of systemd, how about we recreate them without thight coupling to one specific init+service manager-in-one?
These exist already, they are the polyfills mentioned in the post. They even color coded how well each of them are maintained. So you can totally pick one up and contribute
I am impressed! Thanks for the work and for sharing the good news.