it makes sense, now, why Valve would choose KDE for the Steam Deck (which has a touchscreen).
I like my Steam Deck but I must be honest here: Desktop Mode, which is Plasma 5 and not the latest 6.x release, is trash on that touch screen. It just a shrunken regular desktop. You can use some environment variables to affect a few QtQuick applications but the results are mixed. There are KDE applications what are designed for mobile but don’t even consider the possibility of anything but portrait screen orientation. SteamOS doesn’t ship with a proper Maliit keyboard, it’s just Steam’s built-in one which never pops up automatically outside of Steam and Steam games.
Plasma 5 on that tiny screen isn’t enjoyable at all. It kinda, sorta works but I’m happy the touch pads exist.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
on 18 Feb 16:30
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Meh, was hoping for some news on the touch keyboard front but it’s still pretty meh.
thevoidzero@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 16:53
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Yeah, I could only find one that works on kde plasma with Wayland, but it doesn’t even have a tab key. Does anyone know how hard it is to make/modify one?
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
on 18 Feb 16:58
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With a workaround you can get Onboard to work. But it’s not pretty.
Gnome has a small brother Phosh, which has a bit better touch support, but it was developed for phones. I remember played with that on an x86 tablet years ago and it worked a bit better than Gnome, I don’t know how its development going on nowadays.
Gnome got some funding from German Ministry of Education Prototype fund for its mobile ux in 2022, so it’s a bit unexpected that it’s still in this state: logs.gnome.org/…/gnome-shell-on-mobile-an-update/
I know mobile and general touch ux is not the same but they are closely related.
Phosh has come a long way under the development that pinephone and librem phones sparked. But so has Plasma Mobile. I don’t think either of them are great for larger formats yet, they are built more for the phone format. But they are both leaps and bounds ahead of even a few years ago.
I’m running PopOS (with GNOME+Cosmic) on my Yoga 6, works without any issues so far
infinitevalence@discuss.online
on 18 Feb 18:59
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I have a minisforum V3 and have been running KDE on it and its ok, I still cant get rotation working and yeah the lack of an onscreen keyboard is a real problem. But otherwise its more than usable.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Feb 23:04
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I’ve been using Fedora GNOME on a tablet I take into the shop with me, and it’s…not wonderful.
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org
on 19 Feb 04:32
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I like to remote desktop from my iPad to a Linux host and GNOME is the most bearable DE by far still not great!).
TxTechnician@lemmy.ml
on 19 Feb 02:55
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Got a 502 error
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org
on 19 Feb 04:29
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Same. Can’t find the video in the ‘vidiverse’ on peertube.tv either.
I have Fedora KDE Plasma Mobile Spin on a ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 3.
I kinda like it. Initially rotation wasn’t working but once fixed it was cool.
Had also tried KDE Neon but don’t recall why I went back to Fedora.
TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world
on 19 Feb 08:48
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Cool but I’m still waiting for Plasma to have actual tiling built in. Dragging windows with your fingers is just extremely clunky. Also having a “note taking mode” where your note taking app becomes transparent and stacks on top of some other app (YT, pdf viewer) would be nice but that should probably be a feature of the note taking app, not Plasma.
macman1901@lemmy.world
on 19 Feb 10:16
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Depends on your own use case but I’ve been using BlissOS (blissos.org) on an old HP Elite X2. As Bliss is essentially just Android-x86, it’s fairly polished; only thing that I haven’t figured out is configuring the hardware volume buttons.
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I’ve tried KDE Plasma Mobile on an old Surface Pro and it seemed to work better than Gnome
Nice. That was kind of unexpected, but it makes sense, now, why Valve would choose KDE for the Steam Deck (which has a touchscreen).
I like my Steam Deck but I must be honest here: Desktop Mode, which is Plasma 5 and not the latest 6.x release, is trash on that touch screen. It just a shrunken regular desktop. You can use some environment variables to affect a few QtQuick applications but the results are mixed. There are KDE applications what are designed for mobile but don’t even consider the possibility of anything but portrait screen orientation. SteamOS doesn’t ship with a proper Maliit keyboard, it’s just Steam’s built-in one which never pops up automatically outside of Steam and Steam games.
Plasma 5 on that tiny screen isn’t enjoyable at all. It kinda, sorta works but I’m happy the touch pads exist.
Meh, was hoping for some news on the touch keyboard front but it’s still pretty meh.
Yeah, I could only find one that works on kde plasma with Wayland, but it doesn’t even have a tab key. Does anyone know how hard it is to make/modify one?
With a workaround you can get Onboard to work. But it’s not pretty.
They are working on a new touch keyboard: invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-keyboard
But yeah, no idea when it’ll be ready.
Gnome has a small brother Phosh, which has a bit better touch support, but it was developed for phones. I remember played with that on an x86 tablet years ago and it worked a bit better than Gnome, I don’t know how its development going on nowadays.
Gnome got some funding from German Ministry of Education Prototype fund for its mobile ux in 2022, so it’s a bit unexpected that it’s still in this state: logs.gnome.org/…/gnome-shell-on-mobile-an-update/
I know mobile and general touch ux is not the same but they are closely related.
Phosh has come a long way under the development that pinephone and librem phones sparked. But so has Plasma Mobile. I don’t think either of them are great for larger formats yet, they are built more for the phone format. But they are both leaps and bounds ahead of even a few years ago.
as much as I like plasma mobile and want it to succeed it’s pretty janky in its current state imo
Phosh kicks ass
I’m running PopOS (with GNOME+Cosmic) on my Yoga 6, works without any issues so far
I have a minisforum V3 and have been running KDE on it and its ok, I still cant get rotation working and yeah the lack of an onscreen keyboard is a real problem. But otherwise its more than usable.
I’ve been using Fedora GNOME on a tablet I take into the shop with me, and it’s…not wonderful.
I like to remote desktop from my iPad to a Linux host and GNOME is the most bearable DE by far still not great!).
Got a 502 error
Same. Can’t find the video in the ‘vidiverse’ on peertube.tv either.
I have Fedora KDE Plasma Mobile Spin on a ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 3. I kinda like it. Initially rotation wasn’t working but once fixed it was cool.
Had also tried KDE Neon but don’t recall why I went back to Fedora.
Cool but I’m still waiting for Plasma to have actual tiling built in. Dragging windows with your fingers is just extremely clunky. Also having a “note taking mode” where your note taking app becomes transparent and stacks on top of some other app (YT, pdf viewer) would be nice but that should probably be a feature of the note taking app, not Plasma.
Depends on your own use case but I’ve been using BlissOS (blissos.org) on an old HP Elite X2. As Bliss is essentially just Android-x86, it’s fairly polished; only thing that I haven’t figured out is configuring the hardware volume buttons.
Thanks no, i have work to do on this thing.
I use niri. With xfce4-panel/waybar.