Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com
on 03 Jun 13:15
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Nothing you do on ANY activitypub-based platform is “private”. This platform is outright public. A bit disappointing that you still haven’t figured it out, especially as someone who purports to care about privacy in any capacity.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 03 Jun 14:33
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It is clear what you engaged in was attempting to malign all Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml users. You are a piece of shit. If Kiwifarms goes after people like you, I do not think I will have much regrets, after all EvErYtHiNg iS pUbLiC.
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com
on 03 Jun 14:40
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It is clear what you engaged in was attempting to malign all Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml users
By pointing out the correct answer to a persons question?
Are you okay? You realize that my answer was basically the same as the other answer given by the lemmy.ml user in a different part of the thread. Just not an essay’s worth of content when a sentence is sufficient.
You are a piece of shit. If Kiwifarms goes after people like you
So a call to action to dox people? Why are you threatening people and calling them names? Aren’t you a mod? I mean you might have a case or argument if the votes weren’t kept on the platform itself.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 03 Jun 16:44
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So a call to action to dox people? Why are you threatening people and calling them names?
LOL, look who is scared, the one that made vote ledger public that was not supposed to be public. It is not for public, only for admins and instance owners. Are you so scared of internet things happening to you, that you are okay with doing to others? Do you now understand your actions are wrong?
Aren’t you a mod?
Firstly, I am not a mod in this community. Secondly, being a mod is completely irrelevant to judging someone’s actions. That is like saying I need to be the president of a country to judge another president. It is weird.
While you are banned, I will not bait you with this comment. Consider this as a closure response.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 03 Jun 07:22
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Your stint at c/privacy is remembered well, racist. You make private vote ledgers public and snitch on users and communities for your personal agenda.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 02 Jun 16:10
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There are plenty if Linux end point protection tools. However, I think the best protection is security patching.
For personal use I don’t think there is any good malware detection tools. I think you just need to harden your browser and not install random packages from online. Best if you stick with distro repos only.
Really? I just found enterprise grade e.g. server security tools. Most sites I found were ourdated, where the Linux EndpointSecurity tools were discontinued (even tho the server tools would probably as good as EndpointSecurity)
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 02 Jun 20:52
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To mention anything remotely associated with Russia is to be a paid Putler puppet; a lot of people are saying. See you at Tolstoy & the Dostoevsky book burning.
chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Jun 02:32
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oh look another troll dragging geopolitical culture war bullshit into everything
It’s an older interview, but I like to bring this up whenever Kaspersky comes up as a topic:
If you had the power to change up to three things in the world today that are related to IT security, what would they be?
Internet design–that’s enough.
That’s it? What’s wrong with the design of the Internet?
There’s anonymity. Everyone should and must have an identification, or Internet passport. The Internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the U.S. military. That was just a limited group of people–hundreds, or maybe thousands. Then it was introduced to the public and it was wrong…to introduce it in the same way.
Shadowedcross@lemmy.world
on 03 Jun 01:22
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Yeah, I sure as shit wouldn’t use the internet if it wasn’t anonymous, seems like a weird thing to want when people are more concerned for their privacy than ever before.
Well, on the other side I have Steam and most of the games there are closed source…
Yes they run in user mode and (usually) don’t have kernel level access.
“ClamAV is bad so instead of improving it I’m going to cuck to proprietary standards instead”
I never said ClamAV was good or bad, nor was that the point.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 02 Jun 20:28
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I’m going to cuck to proprietary standards
Open source will never compete with Kaspersky in security field. Security field requires extreme levels of meritocracy and a disposal of capital infrastructure as and when needed. The latter is beyond lacking in open source ecosystem, and will always be lacking. The former is also far from the level field at which Kaspersky plays.
If you do not understand this, you have failed digital security already. Lying to yourself is never going to solve problems.
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com
on 03 Jun 14:07
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The latter is beyond lacking in open source ecosystem
And yet software like Wazuh (github.com/wazuh) exist… Which are complete SIEM and XDR platform. Which does more than any antivirus could ever dream to do. But somehow OSS security is lacking? Sounds like you haven’t looked at the security field seriously in decades. Kaspersky doesn’t lead the pack in anything and it isn’t in a “level field”. Quite the contrary Antivirus as a concept has been commodified in IT. They’re all generally drop in replacements for each other and are not what is actually used to prove to security auditors that systems are secure. You may get %1 detection differences between platforms or maybe an update 30 minutes or an hour earlier. This is generally meaningless and the modern tools actually used to prove security go way deeper than an antivirus.
Lying to yourself is never going to solve problems.
Seems to work for you though?
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 03 Jun 14:39
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Lying to yourself is never going to solve problems.
Seems to work for you though?
The internet is a place full of removed projecting their insecurities to mask their interpersonal conflicts. You are no exception to that. The more I start to realise it, the more I start to realise that participation on internet with people like you is not just a worthless, but damage inflicting endeavour.
If you knew anything about heuristics, virtualisation and endpoint security, you would realise security even without the cloud is critical to protecting systems, and that Kaspersky provides all of that better than basically anyone else on the market. Virtualising every single system endpoint is practically impossible, which Wazuh seems to rely on.
I am not interested in a conversation with people like you who bear anti-meritocratic nationalist biases on matters like security. Maybe it is acceptable among your ilk to do that, but I give precisely zero fucks about them and about you.
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com
on 03 Jun 14:42
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you would realise security even without the cloud is critical to protecting systems
Wazuh, the software I specifically called out. Is not “cloud”. They offer a cloud service, yes (that’s how they make money, on lazy admins or orgs that are too small to house their own infra). But it is self-hosted and designed to be run within the network.
You clearly have no idea what the current security market looks like. Nor what half of the terms you use actually mean.
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Forgot to address this too
Virtualising every single system endpoint is practically impossible, which Wazuh seems to rely on.
No. The agent can be installed on ANY system. They recommend you install the orchestration/control node virtualized, which you don’t have to do. You can install it on a raw system though that would be a huge waste of resources. You seem to have missed that.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 03 Jun 01:12
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It isn’t terribly good
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 02 Jun 19:26
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The amount of xenophobic racists in this thread are revealing themselves. Thank you OP. It proves they will disregard merit for supporting English fascism.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 03 Jun 01:06
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I’m sure I’m going to regret asking this, but how is not liking Kaspersky, in and of itself, racist or xenophobic?
Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com
on 03 Jun 03:23
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Because being critical of a Russian company = racism. At least according to lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml users.
TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
on 03 Jun 07:22
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Your stint at c/privacy is remembered well, racist. You make private vote ledgers public and snitch on users and communities for your personal agenda.
It is because so many people see a Russian security company and just go on and on about “Russian company? they can’t be trusted!” While they act like US companies/government is somehow trustworthy by default (or at least by the omission of only dunking on the “always evil” vibes of anything Russian). Russia is very up front about their laws and their opinions of how they do or want to do. While US companies and the US gov love to also push that narrative hard and loud all the time.
They go on and on about “privacy” being like the most crucial thing ever. But they are also the very same fucks that have and actively at this moment find every way to just vacuum up all of our information, chats, searches, etc… And even when we get proof beyond proof that the US gov and private companies are doing this on their own or colluding. It is somehow the Russian companies (or insert whichever country) that are somehow more “evil” for doing shit.
Hell, the US is constantly spying on and inside our own allies. I really don’t see why our allies would freak out about shit like Chinese cell technology. But they are tripping over themselves to willingly build complete infrastructure with shit that the US gov most certainly has backdoors to backdoors inside. It isn’t about Russian companies being more or less trustworthy. But it is dumb as fuck to act like they are somehow worse than US companies with gov contracts. I am honestly more worried about what my own gov is doing to me than shit other nations companies might be doing. Do I want other nations companies having access to my shit? Fuck no, but acting like they are actively more a threat to spying on me as a US citizen than the profit chasing companies Enshittifying everything with adware/spyware. AND knowing that my own tax dollars are also being paid to them to give my gov access to it and me is stupid.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 03 Jun 01:12
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I don’t normally say this but maybe its time to go outside. I haven’t found any Xenophobic or racist comments. Maybe they were removed or something.
beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 03 Jun 04:49
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The amount of disinformation bots or actors on any thread anywhere— despite what blamethrowing you might see in any direction — is incalculable. Trust no comment!
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So Kaspersky are starting to make Linux viruses then?
malware for linux system exists. maybe you’re just ignorant of it.
Kaspersky itself is malware.
Ever heard of Microsoft?
How is Microsoft related to a tool to scan Linux for malware?
Microsoft is a Malware itself.
Ok cool…
Apples grow on trees.
It’s a fact.
That does not oppose Kaspersky being malware in any way … so what’s the point of noting Microsoft?
So much whoooosh
OP, you are fighting racists. There is no victory against brainwormed agenda parrots that do not care about merit.
Okay I gotta know how the hell you got from A to B. Where is the racism in any of this?
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Wow thats turbo stupid
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Your stint at c/privacy is remembered well, racist. You make private vote ledgers public and snitch on users and communities for your personal agenda.
lemmy.ml/comment/11010269
Nothing you do on ANY activitypub-based platform is “private”. This platform is outright public. A bit disappointing that you still haven’t figured it out, especially as someone who purports to care about privacy in any capacity.
It is clear what you engaged in was attempting to malign all Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml users. You are a piece of shit. If Kiwifarms goes after people like you, I do not think I will have much regrets, after all EvErYtHiNg iS pUbLiC.
By pointing out the correct answer to a persons question?
Are you okay? You realize that my answer was basically the same as the other answer given by the lemmy.ml user in a different part of the thread. Just not an essay’s worth of content when a sentence is sufficient.
So a call to action to dox people? Why are you threatening people and calling them names? Aren’t you a mod? I mean you might have a case or argument if the votes weren’t kept on the platform itself.
LOL, look who is scared, the one that made vote ledger public that was not supposed to be public. It is not for public, only for admins and instance owners. Are you so scared of internet things happening to you, that you are okay with doing to others? Do you now understand your actions are wrong?
Firstly, I am not a mod in this community. Secondly, being a mod is completely irrelevant to judging someone’s actions. That is like saying I need to be the president of a country to judge another president. It is weird.
While you are banned, I will not bait you with this comment. Consider this as a closure response.
Your stint at c/privacy is remembered well, racist. You make private vote ledgers public and snitch on users and communities for your personal agenda.
lemmy.ml/comment/11010269
Yes, and they have similar issues
Wer’re aware of it, comrade.
Gasoline is not the solution to a small fire.
Corsica represent!
Anti Commercial-AI license
No thanks
This is very cool! Is it FOSS though? Kaspersky is doing good stuff, but I Antivirus is also problematic, and has like all the privileges you can get
I HIGHLY doubt that they would detect the XZ backdoor
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Why? It’s not hard. They typically hash files and look for hits against a database of known vulnerabilities.
Yes and if viruses use something like base64 encoding or other methods, the hashes dont match anymore.
As far as I understood it, it is pretty easy to make your virus permanently un-hashable by just always changing some bits
The xz backdoor was a packaged file distributed with the standard packages though. It would be trivial to find.
This is obviously not about this known file.
It is about “would this scanner detect a system package from the official repos opening an ssh connection”
Sorry, I was responding to:
That doesn’t work against polymorphic malware
I think the best way is to monitor calls and behavior. Doing that is a privacy nightmare
Who’s talking about polymorphic malware? We were talking about the xz backdoor.
Oh well in that case there is no chance
Even if it did, what would you do? rm -rf /?
XZ is part of the core system
10-foot pole ---------------- Kaspersky
So they have made a Linux antivirus?
ClamAV is the OG
AFAIK, clamAV hunts Window viruses, not Linux malware. The linux equivalent I know of is rkhunter.
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There are plenty if Linux end point protection tools. However, I think the best protection is security patching.
For personal use I don’t think there is any good malware detection tools. I think you just need to harden your browser and not install random packages from online. Best if you stick with distro repos only.
Really? I just found enterprise grade e.g. server security tools. Most sites I found were ourdated, where the Linux EndpointSecurity tools were discontinued (even tho the server tools would probably as good as EndpointSecurity)
I am talking about enterprise grade
Does it find itself?
Does western software find itself?
It just removes itself along with Nvidia, Realtek and Broadcom
How much are they paying you?
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To mention anything remotely associated with Russia is to be a paid Putler puppet; a lot of people are saying. See you at Tolstoy & the Dostoevsky book burning.
oh look another troll dragging geopolitical culture war bullshit into everything
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It’s an older interview, but I like to bring this up whenever Kaspersky comes up as a topic:
Fuck that.
Yeah, I sure as shit wouldn’t use the internet if it wasn’t anonymous, seems like a weird thing to want when people are more concerned for their privacy than ever before.
Kaspersky actually has a good track record of NOT being anything malicious (Except for old times when it seemed to flag pirate software quite often).
However, if the tool is closed-source, this is naturally against Linux ethos and is generally something to avoid, given extensive permissions.
Well, on the other side I have Steam and most of the games there are closed source… Yes they run in user mode and (usually) don’t have kernel level access.
Yes, kernel level access is what makes it a much bigger deal.
I don’t like that either
I’m not sure I’d give Russian software root access to my systems.
What about 7zip?
I don’t give 7zip admin access to my system.
They actually had a good track record but I think a FSB stooge took a board position and at that point…
Support ClamAV instead of this trash
ClamAV is so bad, Windows Defender is twice as good. FOSS zealots are too blind.
“ClamAV is bad so instead of improving it I’m going to cuck to proprietary standards instead”
I never said ClamAV was good or bad, nor was that the point.
Open source will never compete with Kaspersky in security field. Security field requires extreme levels of meritocracy and a disposal of capital infrastructure as and when needed. The latter is beyond lacking in open source ecosystem, and will always be lacking. The former is also far from the level field at which Kaspersky plays.
If you do not understand this, you have failed digital security already. Lying to yourself is never going to solve problems.
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And yet software like Wazuh (github.com/wazuh) exist… Which are complete SIEM and XDR platform. Which does more than any antivirus could ever dream to do. But somehow OSS security is lacking? Sounds like you haven’t looked at the security field seriously in decades. Kaspersky doesn’t lead the pack in anything and it isn’t in a “level field”. Quite the contrary Antivirus as a concept has been commodified in IT. They’re all generally drop in replacements for each other and are not what is actually used to prove to security auditors that systems are secure. You may get %1 detection differences between platforms or maybe an update 30 minutes or an hour earlier. This is generally meaningless and the modern tools actually used to prove security go way deeper than an antivirus.
Seems to work for you though?
The internet is a place full of removed projecting their insecurities to mask their interpersonal conflicts. You are no exception to that. The more I start to realise it, the more I start to realise that participation on internet with people like you is not just a worthless, but damage inflicting endeavour.
If you knew anything about heuristics, virtualisation and endpoint security, you would realise security even without the cloud is critical to protecting systems, and that Kaspersky provides all of that better than basically anyone else on the market. Virtualising every single system endpoint is practically impossible, which Wazuh seems to rely on.
I am not interested in a conversation with people like you who bear anti-meritocratic nationalist biases on matters like security. Maybe it is acceptable among your ilk to do that, but I give precisely zero fucks about them and about you.
Wazuh, the software I specifically called out. Is not “cloud”. They offer a cloud service, yes (that’s how they make money, on lazy admins or orgs that are too small to house their own infra). But it is self-hosted and designed to be run within the network.
You clearly have no idea what the current security market looks like. Nor what half of the terms you use actually mean.
Edit: Forgot to address this too
No. The agent can be installed on ANY system. They recommend you install the orchestration/control node virtualized, which you don’t have to do. You can install it on a raw system though that would be a huge waste of resources. You seem to have missed that.
It isn’t terribly good
The amount of xenophobic racists in this thread are revealing themselves. Thank you OP. It proves they will disregard merit for supporting English fascism.
I’m sure I’m going to regret asking this, but how is not liking Kaspersky, in and of itself, racist or xenophobic?
Because being critical of a Russian company = racism. At least according to lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml users.
Your stint at c/privacy is remembered well, racist. You make private vote ledgers public and snitch on users and communities for your personal agenda.
lemmy.ml/comment/11010269
It is because so many people see a Russian security company and just go on and on about “Russian company? they can’t be trusted!” While they act like US companies/government is somehow trustworthy by default (or at least by the omission of only dunking on the “always evil” vibes of anything Russian). Russia is very up front about their laws and their opinions of how they do or want to do. While US companies and the US gov love to also push that narrative hard and loud all the time.
They go on and on about “privacy” being like the most crucial thing ever. But they are also the very same fucks that have and actively at this moment find every way to just vacuum up all of our information, chats, searches, etc… And even when we get proof beyond proof that the US gov and private companies are doing this on their own or colluding. It is somehow the Russian companies (or insert whichever country) that are somehow more “evil” for doing shit.
Hell, the US is constantly spying on and inside our own allies. I really don’t see why our allies would freak out about shit like Chinese cell technology. But they are tripping over themselves to willingly build complete infrastructure with shit that the US gov most certainly has backdoors to backdoors inside. It isn’t about Russian companies being more or less trustworthy. But it is dumb as fuck to act like they are somehow worse than US companies with gov contracts. I am honestly more worried about what my own gov is doing to me than shit other nations companies might be doing. Do I want other nations companies having access to my shit? Fuck no, but acting like they are actively more a threat to spying on me as a US citizen than the profit chasing companies Enshittifying everything with adware/spyware. AND knowing that my own tax dollars are also being paid to them to give my gov access to it and me is stupid.
I don’t normally say this but maybe its time to go outside. I haven’t found any Xenophobic or racist comments. Maybe they were removed or something.
The amount of disinformation bots or actors on any thread anywhere— despite what blamethrowing you might see in any direction — is incalculable. Trust no comment!
Yay, let’s install Spyware on our Linux computers 👌
Does it scan for Kaspersky?
First is it open source, and why do they made a such tool? 😂