Debian Likely Moving Away From i386 In The Near Future (www.phoronix.com)
from Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 20 Dec 2023 19:58
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/8062565

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mactan@lemmy.ml on 21 Dec 2023 15:52 next collapse

32bit*

Static_Rocket@lemmy.world on 21 Dec 2023 16:06 collapse

Lol, the nomenclature has always been a bit scuffed. Do you refer to desktop 64bit as x86_64 or amd64? (There’s history behind those…)

[deleted] on 21 Dec 2023 18:57 next collapse

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Patch@feddit.uk on 21 Dec 2023 23:04 next collapse

Yeah, I mean if you want to get picky, the actual i386 processor family hasn’t been supported by the Linux kernel since 2012, and was dropped by Debian in 2007.

Most people were generally not particularly affected by that, seeing as the last i386 chip was released in (I think) 1989!

Debian’s choice to refer to the whole x86-32 line as i386 has always been a weird historical quirk.

spider@lemmy.nz on 22 Dec 2023 03:19 collapse

Debian’s choice to refer to the whole x86-32 line as i386 has always been a weird historical quirk.

Indeed; there’s also this announcement from 2016.

lukas@lemmy.haigner.me on 22 Dec 2023 03:48 collapse

None of the above. 64-bit, 64 bit, x86-64, 1000000 bit, amd or i772.

Aggravationstation@lemmy.world on 21 Dec 2023 20:37 next collapse

I’ve always kept a 32 bit Debian ISO on my Ventoy drive just in case.

Would be a shame if they stopped supporting it but I’d put dyne:bolic on my drive which was the first distro I ever used.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 21 Dec 2023 21:21 next collapse

Will that mean a bunch of my steam games won’t work? Please don’t say that, as I love debian, and I love my games.

NamelessGO@sh.itjust.works on 21 Dec 2023 22:25 next collapse

Games aren’t being affected with this change

Patch@feddit.uk on 21 Dec 2023 22:56 next collapse

No, this is just about the kernel and the installer/images.

You won’t be able to install Debian on an x86-32 computer anymore, but everything you can currently do on an x86-64 install still continue to work.

IsThisLoss@hexbear.net on 22 Dec 2023 12:15 collapse

No

Catsrules@lemmy.ml on 21 Dec 2023 22:37 next collapse

Can someone explain like I am 5?

Is just just talking about 32bit processor support? Or are we also talking about 32 bit programs as well?

eutampieri@feddit.it on 21 Dec 2023 22:47 collapse

The first

Catsrules@lemmy.ml on 22 Dec 2023 01:31 collapse

Thanks

eutampieri@feddit.it on 22 Dec 2023 11:32 collapse

☺️

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 22 Dec 2023 13:45 collapse

TLDR: Debian will stop producing 32-bit iso installer images. You can still use 32-bit applications. This will stop you from installing the newest version of Debian on a 32-bit processor. That’s all.