Enabling Bluetooth on Arch Linux (itsfoss.com)
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 2023 07:33
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/6470707

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x3i@lemmy.x3i.tech on 18 Nov 2023 07:45 next collapse

This is one of the reasons why I am very unsure about the whole archinstall thing. On the one hand, it lowers the barrier of entry for less techy people, which is always good. On the other hand, it allows for installing the OS without ever having to use the archwiki, which leads to people making a blog post like this that could be solved by looking for “bluetooth” in the archwiki and following the instructions. To somebody not familiar with the OS, this makes it seem like arch is much more complicated than it actually is. “To run arch, you have to hope that there is a blog post or youtube video for simple things like bluetooth!”

No, you simply go here: wiki.archlinux.org (Also very useful resource if you are on any other distro btw)

Synthead@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 07:53 next collapse

To run arch, you have to hope that there is a blog post or youtube video for simple things like bluetooth!

Or know what systemd is

luthis@lemmy.nz on 18 Nov 2023 07:55 collapse

Systemd is amazing. Every user should at least know the basics.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 20 Nov 2023 11:42 collapse

What on Earth for. I don’t think I’ve used it more than a couple of times over the last 5 years, and that was for arcane stuff like enabling rc.local (which is something every user should probably not know about…)

sederx@programming.dev on 20 Nov 2023 15:25 next collapse

scheduling processes, enabling services, debug services and a shit load of other things that advanced users need.

luthis@lemmy.nz on 20 Nov 2023 19:39 collapse

Plex, CUPS (printing services), Minecraft servers, VPN, file sharing, DHCP/DNS/Wifi, bluetooth are some examples of basic level things systemd can help regular users manage.

Systemd goes far beyond that too.

luthis@lemmy.nz on 18 Nov 2023 07:54 collapse

There is an archinstall script??

noodlejetski@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 08:21 collapse
Synthead@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 07:51 next collapse

A whole article for starting bluetooth from systemctl?

moreeni@lemm.ee on 18 Nov 2023 10:13 next collapse

itsfoss.com is awful

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 20 Nov 2023 11:43 collapse

Why doesn’t it start automatically anyway?

Synthead@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 2023 13:41 next collapse

It’s against the philosophy of Arch. You configure your system the way you want.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 20 Nov 2023 13:54 collapse

So, like, you have to manually enable every service you install?

Synthead@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 2023 23:42 collapse

Yes, always.

  • Maybe you want to migrate a PostgreSQL database to a newer version without starting PostgreSQL server.
  • Maybe you installed OpenSSH but don’t want sshd to run yet, because you haven’t hardened the configs.
  • Maybe you installed Nginx as a part of a migration from Apache httpd, but httpd is already running.

In addition, Arch hardly configures your system in a custom way, too. When you install a package, most of the time, it responds with “here are the files from the developer that you asked for.”

If you don’t like this philosophy, then your feelings are perfectly valid, and this is a textbook example of why different distributions exist 👍

sederx@programming.dev on 20 Nov 2023 15:23 collapse

Why would it?

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 20 Nov 2023 17:32 collapse

Because if I install bluetooth it’s because I have some bluetooth devices I want to use?..

sederx@programming.dev on 20 Nov 2023 17:53 collapse

Not necessarily at all times.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 18 Nov 2023 11:29 next collapse

Meanwhile, Linux Mint users have it on by default.

Jumuta@sh.itjust.works on 18 Nov 2023 15:00 collapse

mint and arch aren’t made for the same people. Not everyone wants it on by default

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 20 Nov 2023 11:44 collapse

Out of curiosity, what’s the point of installing Bluetooth but keeping it disabled?

I imagine the opposite would be the default most people wanted (enable it by default and let power users with a bizarre use case disable it manually).

Jumuta@sh.itjust.works on 20 Nov 2023 14:00 next collapse

because arch is a minimal distro and some people see the processing power used for bt to be wasted

sederx@programming.dev on 20 Nov 2023 15:23 collapse

Because it’s a security risk but you might need it sometimes.

Rustmilian@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 11:41 next collapse

systemctl enable bluetooth.service
Next time just RTFM

the_q@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 2023 14:26 next collapse

Arch users are so weird.

madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Nov 2023 21:15 next collapse

author: has Master’s degree in engineering

also author: “Let’s write a blog post about how to enable a systemd service”

ReakDuck@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 2023 14:36 collapse

Maybe he was Windows user and only got to know the depth of how to create a Object Oriented Class efficiently or smth.

But basic stufd like, using the terminal or smth, nah.

[deleted] on 19 Nov 2023 16:27 collapse

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sederx@programming.dev on 20 Nov 2023 15:21 collapse

Lol seriously what is this. You need to start your own services in arch everybody who used it knows that