regulatorg@discuss.online
on 29 Aug 2023 22:32
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Awesome guide but wow, that’s a lot to understand and do just to roll back, easier to chroot and start blasting
somedaysoon@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 2023 22:58
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Have you tried timeshift? It’s pretty easy, and I really like it. I use timeshift to make restore points for my OS and borg for doing data backups.
regulatorg@discuss.online
on 30 Aug 2023 07:14
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Yeah I actually use time shift on my main system but my boot/efi is fat32 so it doesn’t get restored during snapshot rollback resulting in failed boot if kernel was changed .I guess there is a few complicated solutions to that. Also on fedora time shift is not supported anymore (?)
Well, the simplest way to go if you want opensuse-like rollbacka would be to just run opensuse… if you need ubuntu-specific stuff (you don’t) there’s distrobox.
BTW I’ve been running tumbleweed for a few years now and didn’t roll back once… IDK if the craze about rollbacks and immutable distros (arguments in favour of which often boil down to “easy rollbacks”) is justfied or not.
regulatorg@discuss.online
on 30 Aug 2023 07:17
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I haven’t tried SUSE but that’s awesome they take care of rollback out of the box, I’ll try setup snapper on my fedora when I’m bored
Besides snapper itself, you’ll have to setup triggers to automatically take snapshots before/after running dnf, generate the appropriate boot menu options and reorganize your btrfs subvolumes so that everything that should not be rolled back (eg /var, /root, /srv, …) is in a different subvolume than /…
Honestly, if I were you I’d just give opensuse a try instead: I came to tumbleweed from fedora, and it’s basically the same, solid thing (only, without the new version drama twice a year).
dino@discuss.tchncs.de
on 30 Aug 2023 07:41
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I am using Tumbleweed on my home desktop for close to 10 years now and I have used the rollback on 3-4 occasions. Probably could have fixed 1-2 of those issues in another way, but I was to lazy and just wanted to get back to more “stable system” asap and wait for further updates to fix the issues.
ruination@discuss.tchncs.de
on 30 Aug 2023 08:39
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I find ZFS rollbacks to be easier but setting up ZFS can be a pain (other than in Gentoo and NixOS from my experience), so take your pick
arashsm79@lemm.ee
on 30 Aug 2023 09:07
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Yeah, after some feedback on the process, I could probably also provide a simple script to run during the live installation.
warmaster@lemmy.world
on 31 Aug 2023 05:25
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On Crystal Linux, you do your thing, screw your OS, reboot to choose a snapshot that was made automatically without your intervention, and that’s it. Nothing ever really breaks.
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Awesome guide but wow, that’s a lot to understand and do just to roll back, easier to chroot and start blasting
Have you tried timeshift? It’s pretty easy, and I really like it. I use timeshift to make restore points for my OS and borg for doing data backups.
Yeah I actually use time shift on my main system but my boot/efi is fat32 so it doesn’t get restored during snapshot rollback resulting in failed boot if kernel was changed .I guess there is a few complicated solutions to that. Also on fedora time shift is not supported anymore (?)
Well, the simplest way to go if you want opensuse-like rollbacka would be to just run opensuse… if you need ubuntu-specific stuff (you don’t) there’s distrobox.
BTW I’ve been running tumbleweed for a few years now and didn’t roll back once… IDK if the craze about rollbacks and immutable distros (arguments in favour of which often boil down to “easy rollbacks”) is justfied or not.
I haven’t tried SUSE but that’s awesome they take care of rollback out of the box, I’ll try setup snapper on my fedora when I’m bored
Besides snapper itself, you’ll have to setup triggers to automatically take snapshots before/after running dnf, generate the appropriate boot menu options and reorganize your btrfs subvolumes so that everything that should not be rolled back (eg
/var,/root,/srv, …) is in a different subvolume than/…Honestly, if I were you I’d just give opensuse a try instead: I came to tumbleweed from fedora, and it’s basically the same, solid thing (only, without the new version drama twice a year).
I am using Tumbleweed on my home desktop for close to 10 years now and I have used the rollback on 3-4 occasions. Probably could have fixed 1-2 of those issues in another way, but I was to lazy and just wanted to get back to more “stable system” asap and wait for further updates to fix the issues.
I find ZFS rollbacks to be easier but setting up ZFS can be a pain (other than in Gentoo and NixOS from my experience), so take your pick
Yeah, after some feedback on the process, I could probably also provide a simple script to run during the live installation.
On Crystal Linux, you do your thing, screw your OS, reboot to choose a snapshot that was made automatically without your intervention, and that’s it. Nothing ever really breaks.