Is there a linux distro (or just a DE) that can be used like a Smart TV
from BumbleBear@programming.dev to linux@lemmy.ml on 10 Jul 2024 01:11
https://programming.dev/post/16641351
from BumbleBear@programming.dev to linux@lemmy.ml on 10 Jul 2024 01:11
https://programming.dev/post/16641351
I don’t want to use Osmc or LibreELEC. What I’m going for is something like Android TV (tried using LineageOS but that didn’t work out for me).
I was interested in something like Plasma Bigscreen but most of the tutorial is about 4 years old and point to using an old image.
I installed the Debian package. After that, I logged in and set Automatic login, and switch the session to Plasma Bigscreen (x11). After applying and a reboot, it launched Plasma Bigscreen but some widgets (like the audio, KDE Connect) froze when clicking on them.
What do you recommend? I prefer to use a Raspberry Pi.
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I do not have an answer for you, but I’d also really like to know. Not super techy but willing to learn to do this!
Commenting to check back later.
I also do not have an answer but want to know.
I have used Flex launcher on a mini PC, it seemed like a good option but I got busy before I could even half set it up.
What’s your use case that OSMC and LibreELEC don’t work? I think those are going to be common recommendations, so knowing why they don’t suit you would be helpful.
I used Kodi in the past as a standalone app but then switched over to Emby. I have Emby set to play my media and also setup to play stations on my custom IPTV server. Installing the Emby client on my mobile or or using the browser will have access to that media since I set that up on the Emby server. Wife and the kids are use to the interface too. Have to keep them happy.
Also I would like to install some Linux compatible games on it.
Plex used to have a distro that booted straight to Plex and that was it. You could control it using your tv remote if your tv supported HDMI-CEC. I’m not sure if it still exists. I guess it wouldn’t be any better than openelec though. 🤷♂️
Could you be more objective about what you want and don’t want feature wise? I don’t know about other folks but I’ve never used android tv so I don’t know what you mean when you say that’s similar to what you want.
Edit: I’m pretty sure the Plex software I was talking about was based on this archived repo, so it likely isn’t a modern option github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player
I don’t know about a distro, but it looks like they are still maintaining an HTPC app for windows, mac and linux. The linux one looks like it was last updated about 2 weeks ago
I have been on this hunt myself and am coming up short. Especially on the hardware at my disposal.
So far I’ve tried all the same stuff you’ve mentioned but am settling in to LibreELEC well enough with addons, including the emby next gen setup (got into emby before finding out about jellyfin)
what don’t you dig about LibreELEC?
Plasma bigscreen sounds like it would be the best, but I never got it to work right ( granted I was very new to Linux back then)
Have you tried blissOS?
I tried Kodi in the past but switched over to Emby. Not 100% sure if there is an Emby plugin but the wife and kids are use to the Emby interface.
Plasma Bigscreen looks very cool but spent time trying to figure out why some of the widgets on the main screen loads up then freeze. Like the Mycroft widget, for example.
Also trying to figure out why apps like Kate appears twice under Applications.
I have not tried Bliss OS. Looks very interesting so I will take a look. Thank you for that one.
We’ve so much in common! I had a skin working that made Kodi look just like an emby app or webpage
There is an emby addon that uses your server to keep track of profiles and stuff. It’s actually pretty sweet to get it set up.
Have you tried Jellyfin? It’s a FOSS fork of emby, so pretty much a drop in replacement and it’s been working very well for me.
Personally I use jellyfin as a backend, with the web interface and jellyfin app as frontend. Plus Kodi as an additional frontend for my beamer, with the Kodi Jellyfin plugin and Yatse remote to make it feel more like a TV.
I tried Jellyfin but had many issues, then tried Emby and it worked first time. Since then I’ve purchased Emby so no point going back. The OP probably has an Emby license so no point changing to Jellyfin now.
KDE bigscreen looks perfect for me. I know I have heard of it before but I will need to look a bit more in depth at it.
All I want is Roku, but FOSS, without the ads and tracking.
Checkout big-launcher:
I just read about it from the Flex Launcher page, so no idea what it’s like, just passing it on…
That looks great! Thanks!
I run an HTPC that works fully with my AirMouse Remote I bought for it for ~$15USD. It uses Flex Launcher running on Debian.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/550324ac-5dcb-42ac-bf91-0db36136563e.jpeg">
Basically, I use it for Plex, some Netflix, retrogaming, and Steam.
I was in a similar boat to you were I looked at Plasma Big Screen, LibreElec, etc. Plasma BigScreen was too buggy or unmaintained. LibreElec is great if you want to play local stuff, but terrible for streaming things like Netflix. In the end I said “screw it. I’ll make my own”. Now it’s the center of my living room.
That looks amazing! Are the icons you have there, for example, Netflix, is that a desktop shortcut to open up the browser and load the website?
Your use case is very similar to mine. Thank you for sharing.
It loads the web page in full screen kiosk mode in Chrome.
You could also always nativefier it and make it like a webapp. I have some sites setup like that on my machine.
Does that offer any advantages over the kiosk mode functionality? Looks like that repo was abandoned in 2023 and marked as archived.
What repo? Use npm to get nativefier, the one from regular apt etc. are not current, they’re copies of older versions. Dunno why someone did that.
The GitHub repo of the maintainer shows that the project is archived and dead.
Again of what? Of nativefier?
Yes
Well it does what it’s supposed to do, so who cares.
If you look at the repo, the very first line in the readme links to an issue that briefly explains why you should care.
Unmaintained software comes in two categories:
Nativefier falls in the second category and the second clause. Don’t use it.
Ok so, it doesn’t seem to me to be the case. But if you’re indicating a better solution came along, what would that be? I’m fine with nativefier for the two items I made with it. But if there’s something better then please do tell.
Again The issue on the repo. The developers recommend just using the app feature of the browsers to get similar functionality without the security concerns.
As I said, I’m fine with it until something equally easy and simple becomes available.
Edit: just to clarify, I did look and ask around a lot before having discovered nativefier. There does not seem to be an easy way to get a browser standalone window with no controls, bars, tabs etc. only the window and the min/max/rest control box. If there’s a way to do that then I would like to certainly.
This looks awesome. I currently don’t need a TV interface, but when I do I’ll definitely try this out over Kodi.
Same boat here. RaspberryPi running LibreElec, which is okay but can be unstable and lacks power. Been looking at an AMD 4x4 pc to boost performance and run some form of full Linux distro.
Oh, Flex Launcher looks perfect! I didn’t even know I needed it!
Do you get high def Netflix? I’ve read in multiple places that Netflix limits streams to 720p in web browsers, which has always stopped me from straying from my chromecast. Not sure if that’s what I’m seeing in your photo, though. (basically I have the same question as OP)
As long as your browser supports the DRM, it should stream 1080p and 4k fine. Chrome is best, unfortunately, specifically for Netflix.
No DRM for desktop Linux supports 4k Netflix. IIRC Netflix doesn’t even support 4k on Windows for anything except Edge, at least that was the case for many years.
Really? I thought Chrome added support on Linux for 4k.
I rarely stream Netflix and it’s only on there for my wife. If I want a show, I add it to my Plex library. Even if Netflix has it.
According to Netflix documentation, they only support 720p on Linux, regardless of the browser.
Chrome officially supports 1080p on Windows and macOS, while 4k is only available through Edge on Windows and Safari on macOS.
In the past I’ve used a Firefox plugin to enable 1080p playback on Linux, but the bitrate was lower than the 1080p bitrate on Windows (with Edge, iirc).
help.netflix.com/de/node/30081
Edit: Luckily Jellyfin does not have such annoying restrictions.
I think the Windows Store app for Netflix supports 4k, but that would require running Windows…and that’s just icky.
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What air mouse did you get? How does the keyboard work?
It’s a brand called Gimbi. It has a keyboard on the back and programmable IR buttons.
There are a few brands of them I love mine! Sooo tiny and awesome.
Flex Launcher looks awesome! Thanks!
May I ask: did you write the config on your own and did you create the neccessary icons? Or is there a sample config somewhere, with some icons as well (jellyfin, youtube etc would be nice).
There is a default config it comes with. I just modified it. Their documentation is really good. If you’d like a copy of my config, LMK.
Icons I found online and then trimmed to the correct size and transparency.
You are right, I had a look at the documentation, made myself some icons and modified the standard config in /usr/share/flex-launcher a bit. Thanks!
Could you copy and paste the menu-entry you start jellyfin with here?
Entry3=Jellyfin;/usr/share/flex-launcher/assets/icons/jellyfin.png;flatpak run com.github.iwalton3.jellyfin-media-player --fullscreen
Make sure you switch your view to TV in the settings so that arrow key navigation works.
Batocera
Whoopdidu. What are we playing?
NBA jam, tag mode on.
Also recommendations for a good remote to go with these?
I was so desperate I was thinking of reprogramming a wireless number pad cherry MX low profile or something.
It should have volume buttons, arrow keys, previous, next, pause, etc… Something a old person could understand.
Numbers and alphabet not required.
Bit old, but I used a Windows Media Center remote, still see new ones for cheap. Then use lirc with an IR receiver.
Pepper Jobs Media Remote. Changed my living room media center for good.
Kodi?
The rpi is severely underpowered for such a thing. 8 suggest going with a cheap anything else computer.