Linux in 5k?
from helenslunch@feddit.nl to linux@lemmy.ml on 27 Sep 2024 16:32
https://feddit.nl/post/21651642

My laptop has been having problems not charging and the top row of the keyboard stopped working. In my pursuit of a replacement I realized how ridiculously cheap Intel iMacs have become.

And then I realized that you can gut them and convert them into an insanely good computer monitor after the internals die.

I was looking for a dead one but somehow managed to get my hands on a working 5k 2017 iMac for $150. God the display is glorious.

For the time being Im just going to use the existing internals since they’re still functioning.

I installed Fedora on an external drive and everything seems to be functional. I managed to get fractional scaling functioning. However the output only goes up to 4k. And while thats still really nice, the extra resolution does make an obvious difference when sitting ~1 foot away.

Has anyone been able to get 5k working?

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schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business on 27 Sep 2024 16:55 next collapse

Those 5k panels were goofy: they’re two DisplayPort links merged via software magic into 5k.

Might be that’s a proprietary thing that requires OS X?

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 17:26 collapse

It doesnt appear as 2 displays, just a single 4k one.

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Sep 2024 17:44 collapse

5k?

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 18:46 collapse

Fat finger.

mosthated@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 17:11 next collapse

i have a 2017 lg 5k monitor (same goofy software trick) that works with ubuntu x11

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 17:26 collapse

What software trick is that?

mosthated@feddit.nl on 28 Sep 2024 04:03 collapse

i just mean the one schizo mentioned

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Sep 2024 04:05 collapse

Oh, I see. Thanks.

SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net on 27 Sep 2024 17:41 next collapse

I never got it to work at anything over 4k several years ago.

I went down the rabbit hole and ended up just selling. Apple only ever released the driver for macOS and for Windows 10 with Bootcamp.

Apparently it will work in X11 with a few setup changes per this thread: www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p…

desentizised@lemm.ee on 27 Sep 2024 17:58 next collapse

Does that mean you weren’t able to implement those changes or didn’t want to regress back from Wayland?

SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net on 27 Sep 2024 20:35 collapse

That thread is just the result of a search today to see if the situation has changed.

When I tried it, we were still trying to figure out how the two displays worked. It looks like that link has a solution. It would have been great to try back then, but I wouldn’t go out and buy a 5k iMac or LG monitor just to try it out now.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Sep 2024 00:03 collapse

Thats unfortunate but even at 4k I can’t possibly beat the value at $150 so I will just hold onto it and run it at 4k if necessary.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 27 Sep 2024 18:09 next collapse

What does the display setting look like? Can you just set the resolution manually

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 18:48 collapse

I’m not sure exactly what you’re asking but I did look in the gnome settings and 5k is not available.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 27 Sep 2024 20:50 collapse

In that case I think it might be at a lower level.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 21:06 collapse

Huh?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 27 Sep 2024 23:02 collapse

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Computers are built on abstraction. You start at the most abstracted layer and work your way down. I would next check what resolutions are exposed in the kernel. If 5k isn’t exposed I would check the kernel itself. At the very bottom is hardware but I think this is a software issue. It may just be flat out not supported by Linux.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 23:59 collapse

Ah that’s too bad. Thanks

the_wise_wolf@feddit.org on 27 Sep 2024 20:04 collapse

It depends on the displayport version. DP 1.2 only supports 4k. DP 1.4 supports more. So if it’s an older display that only supports DP 1.2, you have to use the two screens hack. I never tried that, though.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 20:09 collapse

There’s no DisplayPort, I’m using the native internal connections for now.

the_wise_wolf@feddit.org on 27 Sep 2024 21:28 next collapse

Not sure what these internal connections are, but Displayport is both a plug and a protocol. You can use the protocol over thunderbolt and maybe other connections as well.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 27 Sep 2024 21:37 collapse

Not sure what these internal connections are

Literally every connection is internal, outside of the power cable.

Markaos@lemmy.one on 27 Sep 2024 23:03 collapse

Yes, but these internal connections can be done in a variety of ways - for example the most common way to connect laptop displays (which I would definitely classify as internal) is using embedded DisplayPort.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Sep 2024 00:00 collapse

Well it’s Apple so I assume something proprietary.

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Sep 2024 23:27 collapse

In laptops the internal screen is usually attached over embedded Displayport (eDP) could be the same here. “native” doesn’t really say much.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Sep 2024 00:01 collapse

Oh yeah I did see eDP-1 when I was digging around.