Vivalidi 6.8 released (vivaldi.com)
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 21 Jun 2024 04:25
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/17691909

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WereCat@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 04:47 next collapse

I personally don’t have a use for a mail client so majority of this update is useless to me but there are few interesting features I may get used to especially on my laptop.

I couldn’t care less about memory usage on my desktop with 64GB RAM but on my laptop that’s a different story. The Break Mode sounds also stupid at first but I may actually have use for it, will try and see.

fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Jun 2024 13:10 collapse

I use a mail client… but it’s beyond me why I’d want that to be part of my web browser.

FatLegTed@piefed.social on 21 Jun 2024 05:43 next collapse

Am liking Vivaldi, but along with WereCat, I have no use for it's email section.

Am concerned that when Google does it's thing, Vivaldi will break. Is there any danger of that happening?

Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org on 21 Jun 2024 07:09 next collapse

Assuming manifest v3, it shouldn’t break. However, some extensions will stop working. Vivaldi doesn’t have its own extension repository so they will be phased out there just like in Chrome.

FatLegTed@piefed.social on 21 Jun 2024 11:23 collapse

That's good to hear. I may stick with it then and see.

WereCat@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 13:46 next collapse

As far as I know Vivaldi is quite prepared to get things working as much as possible with Manifest V3 and putting a lot of work in their own adblocker as well because of it.

There is a version of UBlock Origin that works with V3 but it is limited compared to normal one, will see how it goes but for now I think they can delay with the V3 update for some time.

maxwisecracks@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 14:36 collapse

*its email and its thing

FatLegTed@piefed.social on 21 Jun 2024 18:20 collapse

On mobile and it auto corrects.

I'm so sorry that I spoiled your day because of my slack approach to social media. I'll give myself one hundred lashes with a herring.

Goodbye!

Quazatron@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 07:40 next collapse

Oh look, Netscape Navigator is back.

They used to say that every product evolves until it can send mail. In that sense, this is now a mature product.

Of course nowadays no product is finished without built-in LLM functionality, so I’ll wait for that

electro1@infosec.pub on 21 Jun 2024 10:46 collapse

They used to say that every product evolves until it can send mail.

they did ? when ?

Quazatron@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 12:57 next collapse

Way back in the late XX century.

Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org on 21 Jun 2024 14:21 collapse

Firefox just pulled the browser out of it to focus on one thing, Thunderbird did the same with communications. Seamonkey still does it all.

Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 11:14 next collapse

How is this relevant to Linux? FF release notes get posted here, as FF is the de facto standard browser on Linux distros. Vivaldi isn’t.

I do not want to judge on Vivaldi, I am merely questioning its relevancy to the community here.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 21 Jun 2024 12:00 next collapse

Vivaldi is closed source and a default only on Manjaro distro, whose site SSL certs usually remain expired. Neither are worth trusting.

JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee on 21 Jun 2024 22:24 next collapse

On Manjaro GNOME, the default is Firefox.

Mereo@lemmy.ca on 22 Jun 2024 13:59 collapse

I’m using Manjaro. Firefox is the distro’s default browser.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 22 Jun 2024 18:48 collapse

Manjaro switched to Vivaldi sometime ago, discarding Firefox. I guess things changed in the meantime.

penquin@lemm.ee on 21 Jun 2024 21:49 collapse

I use Vivaldi as secondary to Firefox (when necessary), and I agree with you. How’s this related to Linux?

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 2024 11:25 next collapse

Vivaldi’s theming feels… broken for me, so I can’t really see myself switching to it. I should mention, however, that Vivaldi is my only real option if something happens to Floorp. What can I say, I like my workspaces on desktop, bottom tab bar on mobile, and good sync across devices.

Edit: Full list of reasons:

No way to have bookmarks only show on a new tab

Inconsistent tab bar view (super compact and good-looking when window is maximised, but has pointless, inconsistent and weird gaps across parts of the top and bottom of tab bar otherwise)

No way to completely disable panel and all its features

Optional: No way (that I could find) to disable/hide speed dial Fix: switch back to using Tabliss

No way (that I could find) to fully disable/remove the Vivaldi button

Vivaldi settings sync saves and syncs only so much, so things like custom keybinds within Vivaldi (like switching from Ctrl to Alt for the modifier for tab switching) won’t be saved

skeezix@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 2024 14:50 collapse

Floorp is made by 3 guys in a basement. Dont count on it being around.

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 2024 18:27 collapse

If they go, I’m forking it and maintaining it myself (or finding extensions to replicate the workspaces behaviour). I can’t see my desktop browsing experience without workspaces anymore.

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 2024 11:26 next collapse

Vivaldi’s theming feels… broken for me, so I can’t really see myself switching to it. I should mention, however, that Vivaldi is my only real option if something happens to Floorp. What can I say, I like my workspaces on desktop, bottom tab bar on mobile, and good sync across devices.

stuckgum@lemmy.ml on 21 Jun 2024 13:54 next collapse

Really just a waste of time browser

girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jun 2024 15:21 next collapse

I used to love Vivaldi, but eventually it being a chromium browser forced me to switch back to Firefox and it’s children. If they switched over to using Firefox as a base rather than chromium then I’d consider it.

gunpachi@lemmings.world on 21 Jun 2024 15:44 collapse

Have you tried Floorp yet ? It’s pretty good, you may find some things really neat coming from Vivaldi.

girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jun 2024 20:01 collapse

I might give it a shot. It looks like a good alternative. Thanks for the recommendation.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 22 Jun 2024 15:21 next collapse

Proprietary software, no thanks

wolf@lemmy.zip on 22 Jun 2024 22:57 collapse

Vivaldi is a great Blink-engine based browser, my fallback in cases Firefox fails to render a page I really need.

Outstanding are the official flatpaks for amd64 and Aarch64.

(I do not understand why it is impossible for Mozilla to provide an official Aarch64 flatpak.)