TUXEDO on ARM is coming (www.tuxedocomputers.com)
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 2024 05:19
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/17796909

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OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 2024 05:22 next collapse

The new Snapdragon architecture makes this possible for the first time for Linux with comparable performance and lower energy requirements

Perfect for people who love emulation too. Now you can play your favorite Windows x86 games on Wine on Zink on Fex on ARM

independantiste@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 2024 05:45 next collapse

If they don’t use another shitty tongfang/clevo chassis this might be worth a buy

bruce965@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 2024 06:13 next collapse

What is it that you don’t like about Clevo chassis? I bought one a few years ago and I love it. It’s elegant and sturdy in my opinion. It’s also easily serviceable, so what’s to complain about it?

independantiste@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 2024 06:49 collapse

Mostly that they are generally made of cheap/very thin materials. They also kind of look like cheap Chromebooks (especially clevos, tongfang are better in this area). And it’s also the fact that these laptops aren’t really unique at all, they are mostly a logo swap with preselected components guaranteed to work with Linux. I’ve been using this Lenovo laptop that has a fantastic screen and an amazing CNC aluminum body, it works flawlessly and Linux support was never a consideration for them making this PC

If I am buying a laptop i want it to be unique, because if it’s not then I’ll just buy it straight from China on clevos website for half the price. What I don’t like is this is basically drop shipping but less consumer hostile

scrion@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 2024 10:06 next collapse

Tuxedo also offers products with an aluminum body, and while they do import the hardware from China, you get the local service and warranty guarantees any company in the EU must provide, so that’s fine by me.

Also, honest question: what do you think a unique laptop is, in particular when buying from a mass consumer brand like Lenovo? I really can’t figure out what that’s supposed to mean.

bruce965@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 2024 13:37 collapse

Fair enough, I agree with most of the things you said. The one I got is made of aluminum and doesn’t feel cheap/thin at all, I guess they have both cheap and “professional” options. Personally I wasn’t looking for something really unique, just for something that had a decent performance for a laptop and works well with Linux. I searched around and this model ticked all my most important boxes.

I don’t know whether Clevo engineers throught about Linux when they designed the device or not, but I can say after configuring it properly, it works without any flaws.

As for buying straight from China, I consider the idea, but at the time I didn’t find a way to buy it for cheaper than buying from a reseller. I’m in Europe, perhaps in the US or in Asia it would be different.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 23 Jun 2024 08:19 collapse

Oh for real, I had to throw it away after one year and I got a used ThinkPad instead.

Some more background: https://tilvids.com/w/wJGQBMj2wDCJRwBH4bYPiz;threadId=19713 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40634794

kenkenken@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 2024 13:11 next collapse

Oh, these long-awaited arm laptops are designed for high TDP and have active cooling. I don’t see why to choose them over Intel/AMD in that case.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 2024 14:39 next collapse

Plus it’s landed like, what, a couple of weeks before a new set of AMD CPUs?

I think people are about to have a rude awakening. ARM isn’t magic. ISA doesn’t matter a huge amount.

GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org on 23 Jun 2024 16:56 collapse

Depends on the specifics. My high-end MacBook Pro uses active cooling, but in practice it almost never comes on. It’s wayyyyy more efficient than the previous Intel gen.

A week or two ago, I accidentally left a Python process running using 100% of a single core. I didn’t even notice for several hours, until it ate up all my RAM. On on Intel laptop the fan would’ve let me know in like two minutes.

I don’t think Qualcomm’s actually caught up to Apple yet, but it’s getting close. It’s good to see more competition.

JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 2024 13:56 next collapse

Can someone do a quick explainer of what this move to ARM means for free computing? The prospects for hassle-free installation of alternative OSs? Is it good news or bad?

iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 2024 16:07 collapse

The good news are on RISCV. ARM has even more closed source bootloader and binary driver blobs than x86 architecture. It’s supposed to be good power efficiency over Intel for a laptop, but not so sure about amd.

JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 2024 02:08 collapse

Thanks, that is useful. Roughly what I was thinking.

checksout@thelemmy.club on 24 Jun 2024 13:30 collapse

I would buy if it wasn’t for the case it will take many years for the software I use to get arm support on Linux distros. I just don’t feel like having to fix so many packages