Tell one thing that you miss after switching from another OS to Linux.
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from DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml to linux@lemmy.ml on 30 Nov 06:26
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For me, it’s Shared GPU memory.
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I don’t necessarily miss it, but the primary reason I can’t use Linux as a daily driver at work is because our VPN doesn’t work on Linux. So I’d say that. Stupid as fuck that our IT department uses Linux for all of our servers but makes us run Windows.
Do you know what vpn they configurrd that linux can’t connect to it?
Just curious
It’s a Cisco AnyConnect doodad, but it checks your computer for compliance first before allowing you to connect, so beyond spoofing a valid system, I’m out of luck. And I’m not about to lose my job due to spoofing a windows box, haha.
I’ve successfully used Anyconnect for years in a dedicated Windows VM. However I only used it to connect to a Remote Desktop so performance was a non-issue.
The key there is the check for compliance. They probably have an MDM or enterprise thing that ensures only approved apps are installed and all, and only then it issues a short lived certificate used to log into stuff.
The protocol itself is likely supported by OpenConnect but you’d have to actively circumvent IT’s systems to make it work and thus a very bad idea.
I had the same issue and use this without any issues: github.com/yuezk/GlobalProtect-openconnect
Well, I am confident it would run on my machine, but how would it do in reporting machine compliance? Because that’s the part I can’t get past.
I’m not sure. I guess that depends how your IT defines compliance. The code is available for review, which I don’t think it is for the official client
Shared memory is basically using your normal RAM as swapspace for your GPU.
From what I read online this only works for integrated cards?
isn’t the primary vram for integrated cards just the system ram?
Yeah but I assumed this is about providing the gpu with any user defined amount of ram
Not a darn thing.
Honestly there too. I dual boot between windows and linux for some work stuff, and on windows I find myself thinking “how do people tolerate this shit?”. That’s often when deleting a large folder or uncompressing an archive :)
What’s so hilarious to me are the animations that go along with deleting (or moving) a large folder. The old animation was just a file flapping its way from one destination to another. When Windows 7 came out, there were zooming icons with lens flares! I was like “What’s next? A dancing frog?”
There’s a live graph of the abysmal filesystem performance now, that’s comedy gold :)
I missed Odin 3 for a few years until I switched to Graphene and never looked back. In tried the FOSS package it didn’t work for me and the documentation was beyond my skills at the time.
I miss the stupid people comradery, sometimes. People act funny when you’re a normal stupid person and use Linux without the hoodie and a Matrix screen saver.
@DieserTypMatthias
reboots after every update
Really good image noise reduction software.
That’s pretty much the only thing I miss, and I don’t miss it enough to suffer through Windows
Plus software like that probably runs great in wine or proton or whatever the new thing is
Unfortunately not. It won’t run under wine or the like. Even VMs are painful, because it needs GPU pass through to work, which requires a second dedicated video card
I bought myself a copy of Neat Image a few weeks ago for noise reduction, and it works really well on Windows. I haven’t had a chance to test the Linux version yet. I think it’s proprietary, but like you say, there’s not much else out there.
There’s a free demo if you want to try it
ni.neatvideo.com
Neat image is the one I use because it’s the only one that works. It’s not my first choice though
For microphones?
Image noise. For photography
Images of microphones?
Fusion 360 :(
Yes i know theres wine versions But they just dont work the same. And randomly crash.
Yes i know free cad exists, but it feels so clunky and is so much diffrent than fusion/inventor
If you just want CAD without CAM then the free variant of OnShape is amazing.
I miss it too, since I need it for school. Though it is available online.
Sounds like wine is emulating correctly!
I 100% agree, and have Fusion360 in my VM. But there is a method to FreeCAD’s madness and once you get it, FreeCAD begins to make sense.
I found it hard to go back to fusion especially with the amount of control I had with my designs.
Also FreeCAD V1 is out, and it’s a marked improvement over their previous releases. Might be worth a try.
Never got down with FreeCAD. BricsCAD has a native Linux version and works well for me, but it’s expensive. Recently, I’ve moved over to OpenSCAD. Works very well for me, but it might be hit or miss, depending on what UX you like, and what functions you need.
Wait Linux doesn’t have this??!! Why the fuck not?
It works fine with my AMD GPU. Good luck with NVIDIA though.
See with my AMD card it never worked but maybe it was just a driver bug with the rx 5500
When I was using Windows, I used Adobe Lightroom with the Negative Lab Pro plugin to digitize my film negatives. I’ve played around with Darktable, and it does the job, but it’s a lot more fiddly, and it discourages me from processing film.
Wifi + bluetooth connectivity simultaneous. It’s my own fault, though, as the machine I run is an iMac 5k from late 2014…
Sounds like Apple’s fault to me 🤷♂️
Coherent theming, although you’ve hardly had that since Windows 98.
I’ve applied themes to make Xaw, Qt, and GTK software more Motif-like, but the GTK ones seem spotty and the Qt theme doesn’t work for Qt6, and fonts are inconsistent.
If you want a coherent motif-ish theme, NsCDE is amazing. It themes like everything in the world and is honestly like the most consistent looking desktop I’ve ever used
github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE/
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I tried pulling in the theming from there, and while it works miracles, I still want to do the three-headed dragon meme:
There are a few other “Solaris 9” and “Perl Tk” lookalike themes that also come close, but they’re all sabotaged by GTK’s lack of bitmap font support (The old bitmap Helvetica is my go-to UI font)
Use KDE.
Are you sure Linux doesn’t support shared GPU memory? I mean if you had an integrated GPU with no strictly reserved memory which is fairly common on cheaper notebooks the GPU has to share the memory with rest of the system. There’s no other way for it to even function.
Pretty “swapping” VRAM to system RAM has been supported for a very long time too. My GPUs can use up to 16GB each of system memory (AMD), and I’d be really shocked if NVIDIA’s proprietary driver doesn’t either because I’m sure the AI workloads need it.
Of course the Steam Deck is a prime example of dynamic CPU/GPU memory allocation as well.
If you’re running this GPU under Windows, it’s fine. But good luck doing that under Linux.
forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/…/260304?page=2
Fair enough, another one for the NVIDIA woes list!
Keypirinha. Krunner is good but not that good.
Sharex. Spectacle is fine but not perfect.
I had to think about this quite a bit, there’s hardly anything I miss. But the nvidia control panel has more options on windows. There are probably more options available using the cli, though. Generally I’m really happy since I switched a year ago.
The carelessness. Mac OS is far from perfect, but it just happily chugs along. Linux often creates problems by just existing for too long. It’s gotten much much better, but it’s still not good.
I believe that’s due to package drift.
Every system starts with the same packages, but due to upgrading or adding/ removing stuff, you slowly drift away from the starting point, which makes it truly “your own”. But this also introduces bugs that aren’t reproducible.
I especially noticed it with KDE. Every time I installed a new distro or configuration, it worked fine, but after a few months, the bugs and crashes got more and more.
Since I installed Fedora Atomic (the “immutable” variant, e.g. Silverblue), everything just works. It’s extremely comfortable and just exists, so I can run my apps. When you upgrade the system, you don’t just download one package and install it, you apply it to the whole OS and then basically have the same install as all the thousands of other users out there, which makes it reproducible.
Maybe that’s something for you? You can check out Aurora, Bazzite or uBlue in general.
I already thought about that, but never really could justify switching.
I would argue, though, that it’s not customization, but rather packages themselves changing over time and sometimes just break.
And sometimes you have crap like a full boot partition, because apt decided to keep all Linux versions for some reason.
Some reason all of the Linux versions except from the one I initially installed are broken
I moved to Linux over 25 years ago and I miss absolutely nothing.
The joy of not having to update your OS when Microsoft forces it, even whilst you’re working, or the way Apple still cannot do window tiling despite decades of examples on how to achieve this, or installing applications and finding files splattered all over the file system with no way to remove them except manually, or the endless user agreements, licence fees, expiring licensees, or the notion that you cannot run a new OS on an old machine that’s in perfect working order.
So, no, it was the best decision I’ve made.
I wish that I’d made the same good decision when it comes to my accounting software.
Can you please “installing applications and finding files splattered all over the file system”, please kind person?
How does Linux do it better?
Central package management.
When you install a package, it keeps track of all the files so when you uninstall it, it removes them all. There’s various ways to scan and remove untracked files, but on a Linux system you can basically be ask it “where does this file comes from?” and it’ll just tell you “oh, that’s from mpg123, and you have it installed because VLC and Firefox need it to decode some AVIs”. And if you really don’t want it for some reason, it can also go uninstall everything that needs it too.
It makes it pretty hard to corrupt a system or uninstall important stuff. In the reverse, it also knows what is needed, so if you install VLC, it will also install all the codecs with it, and those are also automatically available to other apps too usually.
While that is true for the files that make up the programs themselves and their dependencies, it’s not true for any state files or caches that programs creates at runtime. You need to clean those up manually.
lmao, do a
ls -aR ~
Thanks for the explanation!
I think Mac just added window tiling by default now. There were extensions you could install otherwise.
It has. I use it everyday. It’s shit. Apple keeps moving windows to different desktops without user interaction, I can’t snap windows to each other, full screen takes over a whole desktop and ESC inside such a window puts it back to some random state.
Better Touch Tool did a better job a decade or so ago.
and creates it. It’s a whole new workspace just for putting an app in fullscreen and none of the shortcuts to jump to workspace x work with it of course.
The rest of the WM can be made bearable but there’s no way around that stupid design choice.
Can you use a different extension/plugin?
I’m not sure what you mean? It’s a basic feature of the macOS window manager. Pressing the fullscreen button on a window does all of this.
There is a program in the Mac App Store called Magnet, could try that. I think there are some others.
Magnet seems to be a window management shortcut thingy like rectangle but probably worse, costs money and likely to enshittify.
It cannot influence how the macOS window manager works internally, it can only ask it to e.g. place a window in a certain location.
When I switched, about 23 years ago, I missed Moray - the modeller for POVRay. Now I miss nothing.
I switched in 2005, I miss being in my 40’s. 😋
You’re still cool as heck
Thanks, you just made my day. 😀
Great comment.
I switched full time in 2010, but was mostly using Linux from 2008…I don’t really miss my 20’s, maybe the physical side of being sub-30.
I switched at about the same time. I miss being in my twenties. 😋
I miss all the crashes, the blue screen of death, the automatic updates that reconfigure all the personal changes you made to try make Windows work better, and all the hunting around for cracked proprietary software.
Bansi Buddy and NetZero of course!
But really it’s winamp, which of course I would still use on Linux except I’ve become a disciple of the streaming gods.
Audacious can still load Winamp themes and is native!
League of Legends 🥹 But I guess I’m gonna find some kind of virtualization alternative or perhaps doing a dual boot for it with a bogus windows system
Proper, built-in, functional sleep and hibernation
Hibernation doesn’t work at all on my windows HP work laptop. Sleep has gotten way way better on Linux in the past 2 years even. My desktop that would be buggy going in and out of sleep has now been flawless such that I auto sleep it after 30 minutes.
Battery life on Linux still sucks though.
I’m using PopOS and this works pretty well
Oh really? I’ve been thinking about making a move to Pop. I’m waiting until at least the next LTS is out though.
A customizable shortcut key would be so good. I’ve tried to set that up on my own to be alt because that’s what Haiku uses but it’s just impossible to get very many applications to follow it. Probably there’s no way to consistently do it without getting every application to follow some standard for determining what it should be.
If you could set them system wide, that’d be a dream
My thinkpad’s battery is much happier on Linux than windows. It’s hibernate and sleep work as expected. My windows work laptop can’t even wake from sleep properly unless I I open the lid and re plug the dock each time it’s gone to sleep.
Can use kinto to change all shortcut on system, even application specific.
How well does it work and how much customisation do you need to do to keep things parallel to Mac shortcuts?
Work very well, almost no bug/failure (maybe 2 year use, popos), has useful tray icon (restart, input debug tool, help, layout change, …).
I think replicate macos almost perfect from start (not remember, too long ago). Except for alt, alt not work like macos for shortcut and key modify, only shortcut or key modify. But can switch shortcut layout and individual shortcut in config file very easy (even has comment what each shortcut).
Only customisation i do make some modify alt instead of shortcut alt and make some shortcut for global shortcut (lock screen, switch to tty) in some app because kinto grab and change input before reach DE. And some shortcut i feel better with.
Kinto use xkeysnail, is full key grabber for x, probably no work on wayland.
It sounds good, but I’m not willing to give up Wayland features for it. I’ll just have to keep my fingers crossed for Wayland support further down the road.
Been on Linux since 2007, so for me it’s kind of the opposite. You just get settled with your OS after a while, you’re used to how it works.
For me the immediately missing features is customizability in window management. I’m not a tiling fan, but I still miss basic convenience features like middle click paste, press alt and drag windows around or press alt and right click to resize windows from whichever side is the closest to the cursor. The different way it arranges windows (Linux tries hard to make them fit in unused space whereas Windows just opens it in the middle of the screen). Another big one is if you have a window focused and try to scroll another window in the background with your mouse cursor over it, it’ll still scroll the focused window even though the mouse cursor isn’t on it. Focus steal prevention is non-existent so if you’re typing and another window pops open, it steals your keyboard input. The search bar is like, utterly useless, so is the Microsoft Store. The start menu doesn’t open instantly like it has to load it every time. When you uninstall something there’s still leftover crap of it everywhere.
Thankfully when it comes to Linux apps, their open nature means the majority of them just have Windows builds anyway, and what doesn’t would work in WSL. So really all I can miss is the inherent flexibility and openness Linux gives me.
Focus steal prevention is the feature I miss desperately when I’m forced to interact with a non-Linux window manager.
I feel the rage of Walter from the Big Kebowski each time an app randomly pulls focus because it fucking feels like it.
It’s just bassic civilized behavior to leave my cursor where I put it.
Seamless adaption to higher DPI when I work remotely on my work Windows machine. The RDP clients will just expand the desktop and everything is very small when I WFH. mstsc will change the size of everything but legacy apps according to the DPI of the display.
Did you set the DPI in your RDP client? I had this too with my Windows VM, and it would just reset whenever I’d change it in Windows. Changed it in the FreeRDP flags and now the scale is correct, Windows applies 150% whenever I RDP in.
EDIT: My exact command
/scale-desktop
is the one that controls the Windows side, whereas/scale
controls the local side, so in this case Windows scales and I display it as-is, but you can also do the reverse and save some bandwith if the legacy app would just bitmap scale anyway.Thanks I’ll look into it when I get some downtime! I already found the scaling by 125 or 150 percent options, but they really scale things pixel by pixel, which is very ugly and tiring on the eyes.
I play and mod a lot of older games most of which aren’t on Steam, so getting some of them running takes a bit more manual effort especially if they require a 3rd party patch to run on modern hardware.
Normally it’s pretty simple like declaring some extra DLL files, But sometimes I’m jumping through hoops trying to get some old installer than hasn’t been updated since 2009 to run…
I’ve had more success than failures though, Wine is pretty amazing imo.
Like, really. Imho it’s a great note-taking app that is also performing really well even on large number of notes, that also natively syncs between the Mac and iOS, with full-encryption. It’s also an app that, well, does not expect its user to become an engineer and/or a dev unlike some certain others text editors out there ;)
Like with Notes, I miss its simplicity while still including those very few more advanced features an amateur and very occasional photographer like myself seldom needed access to. Sure, there are excellent Libre alternatives, much more powerful and more complete, but they are all also much more clunky and complex to use which make it so that I use them a lot less than I used to use Apple Photos.
It used to run offline (no Internet required) on Linux, on Mac and Windows, and I happily paid for its license to be able to do so. But the latest version has dropped its support for Linux, unless one is willing to use the coud version, which I’m not.
All those apps are very different but they share one thing: they are not complex and unintuitive apps (I reckon it’s at this point I should get flamed to death, so be it).
I mean, even the most ‘complex’ apps I mentioned (like Antidote or, say, Affinity Designer) most users should be able to start using them quick (not master them, but start using them) because they’re not that complex and not that different. Mmm, I’m not an expert UI designer, it’s difficult to explain my feelings around that notion: many things are familiar if not similar between those apps, heck some are even so simple that there is no such thing as a ‘save’ button. I know it’s also very much a question of education and of acquired habits, but still this matters a lot to me and probably to other people like me. I’m getting old (and I’m not in good health) and I want to spend as little as possible of the time I have left learning new apps, to tweak them, or search for workarounds just so I could do what I’ve known how to do for many decades already. If I was to summarize what I failed to say: I switched to Linux not because I’m interested in learning new apps or in changing my desktop look (it’s really cool, I just don’t care much). I switched because I worry about the lightning fast erosion of our privacy in this digital world. It’s the ideology that attracted me to GNU/Linux. I have no major issues using apps under macOS/iOS, I only have major issues with Apple (and MS, and Google, and Facebook, Twitter, and so many other corporations) acting like assholes willing to destroy our societies and even the world itself so they can make a few dollars more during the next quarter. F. that, that’s my motivation to use G/L ;)
Also, thx for reading to that point without burning me (you will find a box of matches in the second drawer over there, you know where to find me) ;)
You can compare Apple to the same drug Factorio is usually compared to.
You can run affinity after compiling a custom version of wine,idk about the other apps I mentioned.
The problem of unintuitiveness is sadly very common in Free software, but it’s getting better… in a few spaces anyway.
For an Apple Notes replacement, I would suggest looking at Joplin, which I use daily for everything from database diagrams to recipes. It has a built-in sync feature, supporting a variety of options, all encrypted. I used it with Syncthing, which admittedly isn’t very easy, but there are other simpler options.
It is getting better and even if it was not, I would still be ok with it: I may have been slow but I learned to favor my privacy/freedom over comfort ;)
That said, I know from talking with people around me (and from myself) that it can be a huge obstacle, no matter if they’re older like I am or much younger people. If it doesn’t just works, it plain sucks.
Thx for the suggestion ;)
I was going to say I miss nothing but you reminded me of what I really miss. Mac Preview. It was so versatile and did a lot for a little built in program.
I used to use Sushi for gnome but it never did all file types and it stopped working for me a while back. I have never gotten it to work right again since.
Yes, I could have mentioned it too. It’s such a neat feature to have.
There are probably other things worth mentioning. And then a few others that have become a real pain under macOS, imho. For example, the new settings app has morphed into a Windows-like mess ;)
i miss some software so im writing my own
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tbh it’s just good incentive for me to learn c
Out of curiosity, what software?
it’s a thing for specialised input remapping, I’m honestly surprised it doesn’t exist on Linux because Linux has so many keyboard remappers
Desktop shortcuts
Depending on your DE, you can have those no problem. You just symlink to the respective
.desktop
file for the program you want to run. So for example, if you wanna start Firefox from your desktop, you’d look for a file calledFirefox.desktop
on your system (probably living under/usr
) and symlink to that from~/Desktop
.Its not the same.
what parts of it do you miss exactly?
On Windows it feels like a feature. On Gnome it feels like the desktop folder being shown on the Desktop.
hmm. I have to admit I don’t understand the difference. on windows it’s the desktop folder, plus a few separate icons to system utilities with some way to filter them. did you mean that?
I honestly don’t know.
The Cmd + Space combo on MacOS was a game changer. Finds EVERYTHING on the computer.
Windows/Games working out of the box with zero tinkering.
No amoint of proton or other software works as well for me as it seemingly does for others
I agree with that
Except for online games, pretty much all the other games work without any tinkering for me since at least a year
Glad it works for you, I have the exact opposite exepeirenxe with most games (I rarely play online).
To the point I sometimes feel like I’m taking crazypulls
I even wonder what games are u talking about ,wanna try to run on my machine
The one who probably provided me the most trouble and headache over the years is my favourite anno, 1404 history edition
I tried it running with portproton with pirated version works smooth no tinkering.Running on arch linux with hybrid graphics on nvidia mx940.
Wow,i even got downvoted.
Probably because you’ve said it’s rated 3.14
I usually check the proton DB website, to read the comments and see what people do to fix games and software.
Just recently I used it to get old CAD software to run, had to lower the proton version to 6 or something and it worked.
from all the times i tried to use protondb for help, for me, i can count the times it actually did on one hand
Are you using Steam, or games from another service? I’ve only found 1 or 2 things that didn’t work immediately on Steam, but I have an absolute hell of a time getting anything off Steam to run, it’s like pulling teeth. Especially older Windows games; they’re just a non-starter most of the time.
From steam, to lutris to base wine to he to trying a couple back cause nothing else worked.
Saw it all, did it all and I hazard a guess I soon will see it all again
Is it possibly your distro? Maybe share what you’re using, and see if others are having different luck with it?
the distros never made a difference sadly, endevouros, mint, i could fire up any one of em and they would have the same problem.
some people theorized here it may be my ram (two different speeds) when i removed them it made games crash that didnt before
I just use a single Bottle’s bottle to install a bunch of off-Steam games. Contains many older windows dependencies; you have to install them yourself but they are found within the bottle’s settings.
I remember trying to get Sims 3 working for my partner, it had all sorts of missing textures, kept crashing and had poor performance. Turns out you need a 4gb patch?? made from the community? Decided to toss it in my bottle and it works flawlessly. Have not tried dos games but may be worth a shot.
Not much really. Maybe being able to download random exes for silly shit, but I could always spin up a VM for that.
I’m really impressed by the fact that it’s so difficult to find something I miss even if I really try hard.
I’d say I miss being able to do a backup of my work iPhone with iTunes and not some obscure command line tool. But that’s about it and I’m not even sure I really need it since my company is trying to block reinstalling from a backup for safety reasons probably.
Linux has really become something that everyone can use day to day provided they have the right hardware and not something like my Surface Go where the bluetooth comes and goes.
Are you aware of the dedicated Surface Linux Kernel?
I haven’t encountered any Bluetooth issues on my Surface, but I also barely ever use Bluetooth, so I may have simply not noticed.
I used it for a while and it helped but there were still issues from time to time so I’m just deciding to go wired for my mouse now
I forgot about easy integration with iPhones. Tethering requires extra steps and I haven’t tried pulling files off.
The 20fps drop I have when I play THE game I have that could use it… For like 3 weeks, every 3-4 months…
Not a big deal really.
Knowing how to fix my wife’s computer, or my parents’ computers, or my brother’s.
Actually, while it’s rather frustrating for them, it’s not so bad for me ;-)
Firmware updates. Samsung doesn’t support Linux and so fwupd gets no security updates from them, fuck Samsung
Linux is great when you have the opportunity to choose the right hardware upfront.
There’s a few things that are outright neglected.
What device exactly? e.g. i could update my Samsung NVMe firmware with nvme-cli without any problems.
laptop
Ok what of your laptop isn’t getting firmware updates anymore?
it is… well not currently i think, but i remember in the first two years i got no firmware updates on linux, then, when i booted windows the update gave me some firmware updates
USB support is bare bones. Always has been. Been feature requests in the core for decades.
I miss windows eating my work when it chooses to install updates and reboot automatically while I’m asleep
Edit: even after I’ve set registry flags and policies to “never automatically reboot” - it’s always fun losing 4 days of work because windows randomly says “fuck you”
consistent middle click to scroll in all programs.
GPU performance.
I miss the Sync software for my Palm Pilot. I also miss my Palm Pilot, anyway, as well, though.
7-zip
7-zip is open-source and can easily be installed on most Linux systems.
It usually installs as a backend for whatever archiver GUI your file manager uses, so for example 7-zip comes pre-installed on Linux Mint and nemo’s file-roller reads, extracts and compresses .7z files without a problem!
The only time I’ve used windows was in school computer labs where they taught us how to use paint in windows xp and few other dumb shit.
So I don’t know what I’m missing but looks like nothing important
Playnite
Wallpaper Engine. Advantages Linux provides mostly are better than Windows, but man I miss clicking a few times and having an animated wallpaper working.
In a similar vein I really miss rainmeter, now I’ve gone down the deep rabbit hole of EWW and AGS but rainmeter was way easier
flathub.org/apps/io.github.jeffshee.Hidamari may help you?
OneNote.
That’s really all. OneNote, on a windows tablet or foldable device with a proper stylus is the bee’s knees for knowledge management.
You probably already know but just in case, xournal++ is a good alternative I’ve been using. Not quite as feature rich but does all the basics. Linux on a windows tablet is a surprisingly usable experience, if a little janky.
I miss RDP.
Preinstalled in every Windows, just allow access on the host with one click, open it, type in the IP of the remote host, and it’s like you’re on that pc. Sound, mic, camera, other devices, multiple screens, … It generally just works.
On Linux with Wayland, I don’t even know how or if it works, or how to set it up on the host machine.
Edit: OK, it isn’t that difficult, actually:
std.rocks/gnulinux_rdp_remotedesktop.html#Windows
Try NoMachine.
That’s a for-profit enterprise offering a remote connectivity cloud service.
It’s an alternative to TeamViewer, not to RDP.
Fair enough!
I use Remmina with RDP plugin. Works great!
Man, I just want Foundry VTT to work on my second monitor, it used to work but all the distros that moved over to Wayland DEs exclusively mean that I can’t use the thing I want and have the laptop do it’s one job of displaying foundry on my table TV. I guess what I really want is for Nvidia so put out better Wayland drivers.
Isn’t Foundry just a website? What’s stopping you from putting a browser window on your second monitor?
I think the module I’m using, which could be Kingmaker or any number of other modules, might be gpu accelerated. Idk why exactly, but having the view for my players on the second monitor while mine is on the main causes it to dramatically slow down and freeze within a minute or so, to the point where the browser window doesn’t click and drag. All I really know is that it works on xorg and not on Wayland, and no distro that runs well in this accursed laptop is stable (endeavor OS turned off my Nvidia drivers in an update and ran everything through the amd apu) or comes with an xorg version of the DE (Fedora Bazzite also doesn’t have this, but at least it works otherwise). I transitioned to a purely online game at that time for other reasons, but I was looking longingly at how Windows users don’t have to put up with that bullshit, or at least not nearly as much.
MusicBee for music management. Especially since I ditched Spotify and came back to local music. See, there are two things that I want from a music manager software: good playlists management and the ability to transfer such playlists to a phone or portable music player. Sadly, none of the Linux apps come close to MusicBee (and I think that I’ve tried almost all of them).
Some, like Strawberry, have decent playlist capabilities, but fail when I try to send my music to my phone: either it doesn’t detect it (I’m talking about using the USB cable and MTP) or throws an error when transferring the files. And there are certain bugs that haven’t been solved. Others, like Pragha or Gapless, cannot transfer music. Lollypop is the most acceptable one, but its playlist UX is awful, and is slow AF when syncing with my phone. So, for me, MusicBee is the only software that I truly miss from Windows.
And no, I don’t want to just copy the music using the file explorer. As I’ve said, I rely heavily on playlists, and this method doesn’t work fine for that. For the same reason I don’t use Syncthing.
Agreed, and Musicbee is the only bit of software I’ve found which happily keeps a copy of your library as an iTunes library .mtl file, meaning it’s compatible with other applications which want to link up to iTunes/Apple Music (like rekordbox, which is virtually the only software you can reliably use to load up your USBs if you’re a DJ)
I sometimes miss using Ollydbg and cracking software. 😅
Fair number of FPS games refuses to work. Apex recently just did that. Other than that, none. Really happy my personal setup works so well.
iTunes is probably the biggest, people with iDevices have a harder time with GNU/Linux
Tbf, that’s by iDesign. They want you to stay in their iEcosystem and spend more money on their products, if they allowed interoperability you might say go with Linux instead of Mac, or something. So take out a loan and buy another iProduct, good iConsumer!
Well you can use iTunes on Windows, so it’s not as if it was only on MacOs.
It’s been so long since I used windows at home. I switched in 2009.
I use it at work, so I would say RDP is probably my favorite feature I would miss at home. But for the most part I use ssh anyways.
Not hassling, just curious - why do you prefer it over just a vnc?
RDP has some nice defaults that make things easy. VNC can operate pretty much the same, but it takes a bit more configuration.
I am unsure if the specs bear this out, but my personal experience has been that RDP’s compression and encoding leads to much smoother interactions with the remote machine, especially when there are a lot of windows or visuals on screen. My bandwidth utilization has been lower on VNC.
Using RDP I also meet CMMC guidelines, which is probably doable with VNC, but not as easily or without some additional work on my end to prove compliance. It’s also easier to convince my clients to allow me to work off-site using RDP as a trusted secure protocol. Less headache.
KRDC does a good job at RDP!
I will check that out. Thanks!
Coming from Windows I miss the excitement and suspense of never knowing whether my click on an icon actually got noticed by the OS. And the thrill of never knowing exactly which icon you clicked on because the UI is so slow to draw and redraw itself that the icons move unexpectedly while you’re aiming. Oh, and the unpredictable surprise of focus stealing.
Printing and scanning. I only print like one thing every couple months and scan things every 6 months, but a backlog is growing. My printer is over 10 years old but it worked well on Windows. Despite their site saying it supports Linux I just can’t get it to print or acknowledge any data is being sent. I’m contemplating a newer printer since deals are going on right now.
Update: Woooo! After a few weeks of fiddling with the install scripts and CUPS config I got something to print via Linux! That being said I’m upgrading, not giving up, to a new EcoTank printer.
Word to the wise brother laser printers work great with linux, but I’ve heard some mention about the newer ones not taking 3rd party toner cartridges. At least toner goes further and doesn’t dry up with disuse like ink!
We ended up with an HP all in one years ago because Costco had a pretty good deal and my wife had a lot of stuff to print for school.
…I…I think we’re still on fhe initial toner cartridges. Or maybe we replaced black once…
Yeah, Linux support is a bit frustrating but it’s there. And the scanner components feel a bit cheap.
Laser printers aren’t even THAT bad for photos. You’re not getting that sweet glossy “developed in my home darkroom” look, but pictures come out fine for general purposes.
Working in a public library before, it kinda blew my mind how long cartridges would last when flocks of people were printing out Wikipedia pages and photos and law documents and crap all day.
Can be expensive to service though…
I’ve had very good luck with my HP Smart Tank printer. It just works, in both Debian and Fedora distros. Gets automatically configured, and both printing and scanning work flawlessly. Arch based distros are another story :-(
I kind of miss being able to play League of Legends, bit I guess staying away from that crack is a blessing in disguise.
Foobar2000. Haven’t found anything similar in terms of ui customization options, easy convert and ReplayGain operations built in.
afaik foobar2000 works flawless via wine. it is even in the AUR (if you are an Arch user): aur.archlinux.org/packages/foobar2000
In feel, quodlibet
But yeah, the extensibility… yeah, there’s nothing.
Dang dude, I had just gotten over foobar2000.
Ahh! It was such a step up from Winamp. I think I started using that around 0.7… and actually used it with Wine when I started using Linux as my main OS in about 2008. But there is nothing quite like it.
I’ve been waiting for a post like this. Every single time I have tried Windows 11 I have fallen in love with the UI and UX. Sure, it can be buggy at times, but that’s true with anything. It has always pained me a little bit every time I have to replace it with Linux. KDE Plasma 6 is the closest I’ve been able to find to Windows 11. Microsoft in my opinion did a really sleek and nice job making Windows 11 pretty, especially compared to Windows 10.
I feel this. KDE has done an incredible job making Plasma gorgeous and usable.
Now I feel like with Plasma 6 there’s everything to gain and nothing to lose, aesthetically and usably.
On my old fun-and-games laptop I made everything look Aero-esque like my favorite aspects of XP and 7 haha. It’s not practical but I’m experimenting with different toolbar layouts and stuff.
But the biggest improvement coming from Windows? Not having a “fake fisher-price control panel” and an obfuscated “actual control panel” somewhere else. Plasma does a really good job of putting everything easily within reach.
The thing that got me to switch from Windows to Linux (the straw that broke the camel’s back) was Window’s “Eco Mode”. Eco Mode is a cute little thing that (at least at the time) cannot be disabled. It automatically slows down apps so your computer draws less power to help the environment. What did that mean for you? ChatGPT (which was just starting to boom at the time) would become barely functional because Eco Mode would slow down the browser. You could only temporarily disable it per-process, but it will enable itself right back again whenever it wants.
Wow that’s irritating!
That’s what bothers me too: It’s so opinionated. I guess so their “support” can suggest the same solution to every problem.
But geeze, things like fastboot, Cortana, Edge, Onedrive, or this eco-mode, or secureboot, or other features tied to deals they strike especially with laptop hardware vendors that simply assume THIS Windows is the only thing that will ever be run on this device.
That’s the worst.
At least I haven’t heard of them clobbering your bootloader with an update recently but I probably jinxed it now LOL.
I try not to just be a *nix-cultist. I grew up with Windows and had a lot of fond experiences with it. It just feels like it serves shareholders over users anymore.
I feel like it’s trying to make its users even dumber, while I feel like we learn things while using Linux.
I haven’t daily driven OSX for a few years now, but I still miss it every time I use a control panel on any other system. It’s so functional, intuitive, logical, consistent, and not a pile of dogshit to look at. If I want to change my IP address, I go to network, ethernet, IP address. If it’s greyed out, there is a lock icon right there. I click it, put in admin details, and then I can change the IP. All in the same window, in a consistent, logical flow.
The WHAT
It’s a usability nightmare for me. I sure love it when I open a PowerShell prompt, and some random window takes focus instead for no reason. Or when I create a new folder in Explorer, and the address bar inexplicably steals focus.
And that right-click menu can take a long walk off a short pier
That’s one thing I really enjoy about Plasma. I never even considered things like “focus stealing” or when to raise windows, but there’s options to tweak.
Heck you can even change what RMB does. (Yeah my brain doesn’t need THAT radical of a change lmao)
The defaults are perfectly sane, but I like that there’s buttons or toggles to see if something else works better.
Seriously. Why?! Who does this serve? It confuses newbies and just ticks off everybody else.
Also this google-apple-esque trend of trying to glyphize (is that a word? Lol) everything just for its own sake is kinda maddening too. (We don’t want literacy to be a bar to clicking ads! /s)
/rant lol.
Keep in mind that 21% of adults in the US are functionally illiterate.
I don’t think I understand what you mean with the right click menu. Do you mean when right clicking, the menu that appears with things you can do there? Like right clicking a file, and being able to rename, or open with a different program, etc? Right click the desktop and get an option to change the desktop background? What’s the problem there?
I believe they’re talking about the W11 context menu, where most common options (like copy, paste, and delete) are replaced by icons that look almost identical to each other. They’re all soft rounded lines and have no defining features, which means you need to stop and parse the icon twice for every cut & paste. They also change position based on which options are available, so you can’t memorize the locations, and since delete is one of the options, I wouldn’t trust my memory.
Most of the interesting options like edit, run as administrator, open file location, readable copy paste options, or installed options like Edit with Notepad++ or 7zip > are hidden behind a Show more Options option, which just opens the window 10 context menu. Same styling and everything.
Basically, everything about the W11 context menu slows me down and nothing about it is more usable or helpful.
Oh, yeah, I understand now, thanks. That thing is UI/X design gone too far.
OS-level support for cloud storage. OneDrive, Dropbox and all the others work seamlessly on Windows through the Windows API. You can browse all the files on the file system and once you access them, the OS will call back the cloud provider to download them. It works through all applications, all cloud providers. I am aware that some tools on Linux have something similar to work around the issue in user land. Some solutions are less worse than others but none of them are as good as on Windows.
Nextcloud works that way for me. I access my Nextcloud files at
~/nextcloud
without any hitch, and changes sync immediately. You do have to self-host, but I’m sure there are also some public instances you can use. I know Disroot hosts one.Yeah, no thanks. It’s a very hacky work-around and breaks the moment you use an application that tries to access the files directly.
Oh you mean without downloading the files. I thought you just meant cloud sync. Yeah I have my entire Nextcloud downloaded and the folder is synced by the daemon, so I do just use the files as normal local files. Never tried without downloading all the files
My (self-hosted) cloud storage is larger than the disk drive on my laptop. On demand sync is important to me. I really, really hope Linux will catch up to Windows in that regard.
any of them could make it work through FUSE
You can try odrive, but it’s less than ideal. Or use rclone to mount your cloud storage folders, but it requires a little more work.
Good OS-native cloud syncing. The Windows Cloud Sync Engine is so useful and is now adopted by virtually every cloud storage provider, and crucially lets you keep your entire cloud drive visible as unsynced files and pulls them on-demand (ie. what Dropbox call Smart Sync).
Thanks to being freelance and working for different companies I have different files I work on in Dropbox and Onedrive as well as my personal stuff being stored on Proton and my Synology NAS through Drive, and none of these have linux integrations that even come close to their Windows or macOS equivalents. Things like Syncthing and rclone will do selective sync, so you aren’t forced to sync your entire cloud drive on to your laptop’s tiny SSD, but that still means half your files are missing and have to be accessed through janky browser interfaces 🤢
ntfs compression
btrfs compression was really cpu-heavy last time i tried it. ntfs compression just worked with little hassle
Might’ve been a while since you tried. There’s quite a few options now. zstd is real nice and fast.
can’t you change the compression algorithm, or its compression level?
but yeah it would be much better if we could set it on a per-file basis, and also on demand so that it can compress/decompress a file in place
i tried many different algorithms at the time, but it didn’t really matter. my laptop would always, eventually, lag and get pretty hot and I would check the task manager and sure enough there were the btrfs compression proccesses hogging the cpu
In my previous comment, I forgot to add the ability to easily clone one installation from one computer to another.
I’ve used Clonezilla on Linux but with mixed results.
A minor but useful GUI feature on MacOS in list view is showing the size of directories as well as individual files and being able to sort by those sizes. That extra step in Linux of having to contextually click on a listed directory and choose “Properties” all the way at the bottom of that menu is a minor annoyance
Dolphin has this as an option (Configure Dolphin > View > Content Display > Folder Size > Show size of contents[…])
Well I installed linux the day i bought my first laptop. I just started windows, got bored after sometime, then install fedora KDE because i can’t withstand windows issues
For me it’s the Mac Finder. It’s always running so (unless it crashes) there’s no delay in opening a file manager window and, more importantly, it has built in Quicklook and Miller columns. Haven’t managed to find a good-enough implementation of either of those in Linux, so I just work around it.
It always shocks me that Linux file mangers don’t embrace Miller columns. They’re so great.
What is a miller column?
Cascading lists.
It’s a way of projecting a tree structure into a table.
Oh neat!
“Show all folder sizes” is MacOS’ greatest innovation IMO. Honorable mention to Messages app.
It this similar to “disk usage analyser”?
I hate that windows doesn’t have something like this built in.
It just lets you opt to see the folder size as an attribute in list view the same as you can a file in Windows or Linux. It’s more or less the same info as disk usage analyzer but without the flower and displayed inline which is useful and convenient.
nothing beats the mac finder, mac touchpad, and mac scaling/ui. other than that, linux does everything windows/mac does, but better. imo. so definitely in agreement here.
to edit CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT all night long
That’s far too retro. No one else will get the joke.
I’m here. I’m old too.
Got to tweak dos startup menu to maximise your conventional or ems memory.
I miss not having to worry about whether any app or game would be easy to install and work flawlessly.
edit. also printing in general, situation is so dire that I just send whatever I want to print to my phone and print it from there these days.
Printing was horrible on Windows, and Mac uses cups too, no? I’ve only ever had good experiences printing from Linux
macOS still uses cups. It’s deprecated but still functional. The alternative is to use AirPrint or get fucked.
Doesn’t AirPrint go through CUPS?
Sorry, I misspoke. CUPS itself is not deprecated, only most of its old functionality regarding drivers.
From
man cups
:it’s funny you bring up printing because my experience has always been better on linux. even at the office i constantly have to resolve issues with the windows and macs but my linux admin station “just works”.
Same here. Both of my printers just work on Linux without any bullshit, while on Windows they each require separate software from the manufacturers
Hardware info (hwinfo) or similar. Be able to check all voltages, speed and temps while testing new hardware. For example my ARC A770 has little to no info, and shows running at pcie x1.
Edit: mistakingly thought link width was x4, but looking at it again shows x1
Are you positive it’s not running at PCIe x4?
Not sure in Linux, could be a driver or kernel configuration. I don’t know a way to double check it. When booting into windows it’s at x16. So not a hardware or bios issue.
Try
sudo lspci-vv
. It should tell you the negotiated link speed.The level of detail and control in the Properties dialog from the file explorer in Windows. Also its ability to easily search by metadata like the bitrate of media files.
I miss the human connection with those around me who use windows. After years of using Linux almost exclusively, I now miss being able to relate to them. Sometimes I feel lonely because of it.
Colleagues get to resonate with all the windows slowness and reliability issues, and I can only stay silent.
“Hey, how can I do this obscure thing?” “Oh yes that’s easy… err… no, I don’t know.” So many methods that are easy on Linux are basically impractical on windows. E.g. many text file processing tasks are doable swiftly with simple shell scripts or even bash one-liners; what will a windows user do? Telling them to automate something means suggesting them to create a new Java project. Opening an SSH session means using Mobaxterm which limits the number of sessions you can create.
I live and work in both worlds, and neither of your examples are true.
Powershell/cmd line/wmi is pretty deep tooling at this point. Windows being object instead of text based is a different thought process, but it is deeply powerful. Simple one line powershell scripts can do a lot.
Ssh is also a built in feature now, since Windows 10. You can just enable it, but there are also tons of clients that aren’t mobaxterm like putty/kitty/royal ts/etc. Its also not the primary text interface to work interactively with other windows machines, so it doesn’t have the same importance in the windows world.
I much prefer linux in general, but it’s best to criticize microsoft for its actual faults, not imaginary ones.
I bet very few people know that there’s an openssh client already installed in Windows.
Same with Powershell, I have heard it is quite capable but in practice Windows users tend to not know powershelI. I haven’t found anybody IRL who knows Powershell.
My goal wasn’t to criticize Windows, I wanted to show how much our experience is different from Windows users. It is not about windows vs Linux, but about how windows users usually do things vs how Linux users usually do things. Relatability is a powerful social force that I hadn’t accounted for, and now it just bites me.
Im sure there are linux users that don’t ever use ssh and would look at you quizzically if you asked them about bash. The fact that linux has built more of an enthusiast community doesn’t change the operating system. I would be entirely wrong if I said you had to install a tightVNC viewer/server to connect to a remote linux system, or install golang to write a simple linux script.
You should criticize Windows, as it’s woefully user hostile, but do so in a reasonable way. Pretending that it doesn’t have excellent built in tooling doesn’t help your case.
Pretty sure these users are few and far between. I haven’t found any of them.
Now it is possible that where you live, there is an abundance of Windows/Powershell experts and novice Linux users who only use Facebook. I’ll accept if that is your reality. All I can observe is that curious/enthusiast types tend to use Linux whereas others use Windows. People who want to better their situations tend to switch to Linux.
That never went well for me. Criticizing Windows is like talking them down for buying a car or calling their baby ugly. If you criticize Windows, Windows users will defend it.
What does work is to just stay silent and let Linux be better at getting my job done. Curious ones will observe and switch to Linux on their own. Others will continue using Windows.
Tooling can be installed. It is not a big enough factor in choosing an operating system.
And pretending that Windows doesn’t have built in tooling totally helps my case. Windows users have different expectations from their operating system. Windows is expected to be GUI based, so why will it have an SSH client? (except that it does) And why will it have a decent scripting language? (except that it does) And all software is installed by double-clicking on an .exe (except that Windows has a package manager)
My case is about people, not operating systems.
For me, Windows hasn’t fixed its myriad of reliability, performance and trust issues in over a decade, no amount of built-in tooling will make me return to Windows. Windows users on the other hand will tolerate the issues, or at most make it only as severe as previous Windows version. You see how difference between the users is playing out, right? The enthusiast types observe that a better experience is possible with Linux and become Linux users, and remaining users stay with Windows, mostly tolerating whatever Microsoft adds to Windows updates. Over time, Linux users and Windows users drift apart and become very different.
That’s a lot of words to say “I was wrong about windows not having built in tooling” but you did include it, so good on you.
Linux being mainly enthusiasts is a detriment, not a positive. Windows appealing to everyone is something Linux needs to work more towards, and thankfully it slowly is. Bifurcating the different use cases into “no, only enthusiasts over here in linux land and you casuals over on windows” is a problem, not the solution.
Both OSs can be used for serious or casual purposes. That should be applauded, and the better elements of both should be considered honestly. Making easily rebuffed strawmen about what Windows can or cant do isn’t helpful to anyone.
Or if you’re using a Windows release from some time in the last decade, opening a terminal and typing
ssh
Eartrumpet.
BBEdit.
It makes every other GUI text editor look like a joke.
IDK looks far less advanced than JetBrains editors.
But then, that looks like a text editor and not like an IDE.
Right, not an IDE. The BB stands for “bare bones”, but it has a robust feature set as far as general text editing goes. Autocomplete is minimal so I tend to use an IDE for more complex coding tasks.
Support for auto cloud sync from vendors, or just auto cloud sync of setting between devices.
DE stability. I keep a Mac around for times when Gnome is kind of broken.
cmd shortcuts which don’t interfere with app shortcuts.
Powerful desktop Arm chips.
Gui to manage services.
Gui to manage firewall.
Easy fleet management tools.
A real terminal services and Remote Desktop solution.
Desktop icons.
Tighter userland security.
Tighter OS security. Mostly dm-verify and fs-verify.
Tiling support. (There are extensions, but I need to experiment.)
Not having to recompile out of tree kernel modules after a kernel upgrade.
Base and extras being cleanly separated.
Linux is the king of fleet management tools.
That would be Windows.
For server config management there are lots of tools. FreeIPA and Ansible will do quite a bit, but when getting into stuff to manage Linux desktops fleets there isn’t a lot of endpoint management out there.
Fleet Commander is the main effort out there, and then Red Canary.
gnome is broken but there are better DEs imo
There really isn’t.
It’s only every so often with extensions, and every release reduces the number of extensions I use.
which one? did you try firewalld or opensnitch?
you mean the specific icons of an other OS, or something else?
manually, or even automatically? if it’s the first, check out DKMS
Which which one?
I use firewalld regularly. Firewalld isn’t a GUI, and it’s a wrapper around Nftables and/or iptables depending on the distribution.
I haven’t tried opensnitch.
Not having to use a Gnome extension to get desktop icons. 🙂 Although, other DEs aren’t much better.
DKMS is setup, and I still have to plan my kernel upgrades due to the compilation time.
netfilter, iptables, or one that is based on them
that’s right, but it has an official GUI: firewalld.org/…/firewall-config.html
it has per-app rules, and can show a popup for programs that don’t yet have a rule. you can also limit the access by time, destination, and port
in my experience every kind of update requires planning and a reboot because incompatibilities between new libs and already running older programs will cause problems. but DKMS may help in making it less of a work
Not much. Probably just support for some hardware that needs drivers like my 3d printer. But that’s what Vans are for right. Most other “windows only” apps work fine under WINE. If I have to say one thing: powertoys (some of them)
what 3d printer do you have that needs Windows drivers? a Formlabs?
One of the only things I miss from winblows is how I can download an exe or msi installation file and just install.
I mean, I do enjoy getting things installed via cli through a repository, but I suck at installing from source for those things that don’t have a deb installer or an appimage or something similar.
Otherwise, not much right now other than the fact I cannot figure out how to get the headphone jack to work on my laptop (galaxy book 3), leading to me having to use bluetooth headphones and my OS sometimes deciding I don’t need the high fidelity audio profile options, making everything sound like ass.
I can’t imagine going back to having to manage my installations and software updates manually. I now have someone that downloads, tests and packages every new version with my operating system, and OS upgrades are likely to have been rolled out over a few channels until when it hits stable, it’s probably known to work well (in non-cutting edge distros).
I wouldn’t want to go back to having to keep track of when a package updates and download it from some site that may or may not be the authors, and then hope to hell Microsoft actually does something approaching quality control on their janky, security-through-obscurity OS before releasing an update that proceeds to brick my machine.
I’m beginning to see the value in flatpack. It brings that kind of experience.
Absolutely, as a Linux uswr if only 18 months it was a complete balls up me trying to install Signal from tje shitty instructions. Their website, a seasoned Linux user in the forum said how he could see how I was confused becase the command lines on the Singnal website to do the install all ran together, since then it’s been fine but just Flatpak FFS.
Interesting. I think signal is maintained in the arch repository so it was easy for me.
EasyEffects was the one where flatpack saved me. Bought a cheap headset, needed boost on mic gain.
I don’t miss anything really. All of my software already worked.
Dragging chrome tab to another screen. On windows and chrome os it works fine, i can drag a tab from one window and it becomes a separate window i can place anywhere.
On Linux, as soon as i move the tab, the new window is created but I’m no longer dragging it. It annoys me greatly because i often want to move tab to the other half of the screen, or another screen and i can’t do it in one motion.
Works on Firefox if you ever get angry enough to bother switching.
Last i checked on Fedora (40) it didn’t work for me. Firefox also had worse touchscreen support.
I like Firefox as it performs better and uses less resources, the main friction for me would be moving all the passwords from google password manager. I’d also like to keep them in sync with chrome as I’ll still get probably use chrome on other devices, including android.
Just tested on nobara 40 (which is basically fedora 40) gnome and it works
Not for me, i just checked again. I can drag what appears to be a thumbnail and it doesn’t behave like a window so i can’t snap it to the side or the grid, and the window is still there so even if there are no other tabs in that window i can’t move the tab to merge with a window below as it’s covered by the first window.
I know I’m a tab juggler 🤹♂️
Firefox and mint - not a problem I’ve been aware of.
Windows Recall
I think most of us are grateful that we don’t have that spyware
You forgot the /s
The use of my ANT+ adapter with Zwift. But Bluetooth via the phone worked for 62 miles and several hours today, so I guess that will suffice.
The CMD key. MacOS got it figured out with CMD separate from ctrl. Never have problems copying from a terminal because CMD+C is not ctrl+C
Funny, that’s one of the things I dislike the most about macos. I think the keyboard shortcuts there are generally noticeably less comfortable than windows and Linux. It’s not even just shortcuts, regular keybindings are also worse on macos IMO. I will never understand why the enter key still renames a file/directory instead of opening it.
It’s because the gui is designed to be navigated with the mouse. The idea that someone would use the mouse to select a file then use the enter key just didn’t cross anyone’s mind. If someone is using the keyboard in a GUI navigation, it’s probably for text entry- such as search, or renaming a file.
Can use kinto to change all shortcut on system, even application specific.
Being able to play League of Legends. We could until few months ago.
installing programs. there’s been random programs I’ve needed to download for school and I’ve sometimes spent hours running into random errors, having to find out what library or dependency I’m missing, etc. I miss being able to just click on an .exe and that’s it.
I just miss my social life. Back when I was on Windows I had a lot of friends and was banging people constantly in my free time. As a Linux user, I’ve pretty much been ostracized by my local community and my mojo no longer works on the daily trimmings. I might give Mac a try, but I’m just not sure how many tide pods I could possibly eat.
You, too?
Old school Mac users huff nitrous from beach balls, the tide pod thing is just iOS users.
Photoshop and stable nvidia drivers.
Try photopea
Gimp, krita, inkscape, scribus covers my needs well
Photopea is great, but after a certain point it begins to chug. Once you have a dozen or so groups and begin to stack adjustment layers peefomance suffers. A dedicated desktop app just has more power to swing around.
It’s going to take some time to get as proficient in krita or GIMP.
Nothing.
Ive been mostly on linux for like 25 years, but i was using a chromebook for a while bc it was cheap (had a linux desktop tho).
I miss easily running android apps on my laptop. I could install waydroid but its not that big of a deal to me. Just the only thing i could think of that i miss from another os…
Shortcuts to move windows on xfce (there’s somekind of python script but i don’t want to bother) and discord and a few xorg wrapped apps are so fucking laggy on wayland
Hmm. I have xfce4/wm and I can move windows around (after mapping keys) with
Win(oops) Meta + arrow keys and some Shift & Ctrl combinations.Or are we talking about moving then around with the arrow keys instead of grabbing them by the title bar or something instead of tiling and moving them between monitors and workspaces?
I want to switch them between monitor is that what your doing ? :,o
Yeah. I have it keyed to shift+meta+arrow keys iirc. Works for moving them up and down too. I’m phone posting, but I can look it up later if you want.
No np the forum i stumbled upon must’ve been out of date i’ll look into it ! Thanks !
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Grabbed em anyway this morning. It’s the “Window Manager” config option.
Just changed it thanks again !
I do honestly miss the level of artistic and aesthetic polish that a multi-billion dollar corporation can afford to field that no Linux distro really can.
Linux as a rule is and always has been generally quite “Guys Live In Apartments Like This”. Often utilitarian to a fault. UX design by backend devs, because actual frontend devs cost money. No one wants to pay the “beauty tax” for software. DEs like KDE and Gnome are trying very hard and have made great strides, but it’s very slow progress.
And I imagine this comment will be a magnet for power user types who will flock to my post and retort something along the lines of, “All that stuff is bloat/a usability nightmare/clutter/gets in my way/comes at the cost of features”, blah, blah, blah, waaahhhh boo hiss… Yes, it’s all true, and yes, I understand. But Linux and the free software it surrounds itself with tends to be crusty, clunky, and god-awful ugly, and I’d be lying if I said that didn’t frustrate me a bit now and again. Does it bother me to the point that I don’t want to use it? Fuck no. Windows isn’t worth the bullshit. But they do at least know how to make an OS slick and beautiful, when it works, anyway.
I’m sure people will also cherry pick examples of FOSS software that are quite ergonomic and lovely to feel. Yeah, there are many examples that exist, but they tend to be diamonds in the rough rather than exemplars of the ecosystem. For every one dev in this community who actually has a fucking clue how to make smooth-feeling and aesthetically pleasing software, there’s a score of devs who slapdash together their programmer-art-tier UIs and call it a day, and a thousand other dev-brained users who look at it and go, “this is fine”. And yeah, it is fine. But sometimes I want more than fine.
It’s also a bit sad when it has a facade that looks like a competitor’s proprietary offering, but you then peek under the hood a bit further and the finer details of polish, functionality, and taste are missing.
Love it all the same, but I can’t pretend it’s not a shortcoming.
Win11 feels like a half built facade placed over the Win10 interface. For example, to compress a file from the right click menu you have to click “show more options” which just switches to the Win10 menu. Also, moving away from text in context menus and replacing with an inconsistently formatted icon only menu is an assault on the user IMO.
I don’t feel like saying plasma 6 or gnome is cherry picking. Plasma, at least to me, feels very polished. The theme management is incredible, diverse, and easy too. I feel it’s better aesthetically out of the box, but with negligible effort a theme can be installed to exceed commercial competition.
Windows 10 felt decently fleshed out and very clean, but often you still had to use the old control panel and other menus.
Android is clean and polished but limiting in customizability. Android UI apps seem to break completely every couple updates until the maintainer patches. There’s no consistency between devices/manufacturers either.
I haven’t used an Apple product since 2006 so i can’t speak for those.
None
Some of my steam games dont run, and theres some files I cant run in Davinci Resolve. So probably just those
Not having to worry about games straight up blocking linux users from playing because we are supposedly all cheaters…
While this sucks, thankfully for me I didn’t want to play those games to begin with
Yeh, it is such I minor thing for me that it doesn’t really matter but it is probably the only thing I miss. I have avoided playing most EA, Ubisoft and Epic store games for a while but it still sucks when the one game from EA that I did own and spent some money on has just decided that all linux users are cheaters. For the most part I stick to games that I know have a high chance of always working on linux.
From Windows
Low-latency VRR that works correctly
It does not feel quite right in kwin and the rather new “proper” support in Hyprland doesn’t feel right either.
In hyprland you actually have to enable a special option and set a lower bound for VRR because it doesn’t handle LFC with cursors, so a game running at 1fps will make your cursor jump around once per second which is totally unusable. With LFC that would typically result in at least e.g. 90Hz.
VRR in other apps works quite well though. I’m not sure how intended it is but it allows for some nice power savings on my Framework 16; when it’s just a terminal refreshing a few times a second, the screen goes all the way down to 48Hz and when I actually scroll some content or move the cursor it’s still buttery smooth 120Hz.
Sway feels very good w.r.t. VRR but it cannot handle cursors at all (visible or invisible): whenever you move the mouse, VRR is deactivated and you’re at full refresh rate until you stop moving the cursor. It might also not be fine because I could only test a racing game due to the mouse issue and it’s so light that it always ran at a constant rate, so that’s not a great test as what differentiates good VRR from bad VRR is how varying refresh rate is handled of course.
Xorg VRR also never felt right; it felt super inconsistent. Xorg is also dead.
VRR is fundamental for a smooth gaming experience and power efficient laptops.
From macOS
Mouse pad scroll acceleration.
If you’ve ever used a modern macbook for a significant amount of time, you’ll know that its touchpad is excellent. I’d actually prefer a macbook touchpad over a mouse for web browsing purposes.
On Linux however, it’s a complete shitshow and the most significant difference is not hardware but software. You might think that, surely, it can’t be that bad. Let me tell you: it is.
Every single application is required to implement touch pad scrolling on its own; with its own custom rules on how to interpret finger movement across the touch pad. I can’t really convey how insane that is. There is no coordination whatsoever. Some applications scroll more per distance travelled, some less. Some support inertial scrolling, some don’t. Some have more inertial acceleration, some less.
Configuring scrolling speed (if your compositor even allows that, isn’t that right Mutter?) to work well in e.g. Firefox will result in speeds that are way too quick for the dozens of chromiums you have installed and cannot reasonably configure while making it right for chromiums will make it impossible to use forwards/backwards gestures in Firefox and applications that don’t implement inertial scrolling at all (of which there are many) will scroll unusably slowly.
It’s actually insane and completely fucked beyond repair. This entire system needs to be fundamentally re-done.
There needs to be exactly one place that controls touch pad (and mouse for that matter) scrolling speed and intertial acceleration, configurable by the user. Any given application should simply receive “scroll up by this much” signals by the compositor with no regard for how those signals come to be. My browser should never need to interpret the way my fingers move across the touch pad.
Accel key
Command/super is just a better accel key than control. Super is almost entirely unused in Linux (and Windows for that matter). Using it for most shortcuts makes it trivially possible to make the distinction between e.g. copy and sending SIGTERM via
^C
in a terminal emulator. No macOS user has ever been confused about which shortcut to use to copy stuff out of a terminal becauseCMD-c
works like it does in any other program.It also makes it possible to have e.g. system-wide emacs-style shortcuts (commonly prefixed with control) and regular-ass CUA shortcuts without any conflicts.
C-f
is one char forwards andCMD-f
is search; easy.Unified Top bar/global menu
Almost every graphical application has some sort of menu where there’s a button for about, help, preferences or various other application-specific actions. In QT apps aswell as most fringe UI frameworks, it’s placed in a bar below the top of each window as is usual on Windows. In GTK apps, it’s wherever the fuck the developer decided to put it because who cares about consistency anyways.
For the uninitiated: On macOS there is one (1) standardised menu for applications to put and sort all of their general actions into. It is part of the system UI: almost the entire left side of the top bar is dedicated to this global menu; populated with the actions of the currently focussed application.
If you’re used to each application having this sort of menu in the top of its window, having this menu inside a system UI e
I use the Super key on Gnome DE all day long. Moving windows around the Desktop, moving to other desktops, going to the overview, etc. Its all configurable shortcuts in keyboard and tweaks.
I’ve personally always loathed the global menu bar paradigm of macOS. Having a menu bar that’s wholly detatched from the currently open window that is context-aware based on which window has focus always felt like an irritating speed bump to me. My mind feels like the OS itself is hiding things from me by only allowing me to see a single app’s menu bar at a time.
But then again, I have no objective qualms with it. I’m sure I could adapt to it. When have I realistically needed to see more than one menu bar at once? I can’t name a time. I’m probbably just pearl-clutching at the perceived arresting of my agency to do things when in fact I’m losing effectively nothing.
At any rate, we agree it’s a sure sight better than the shitshow that is GTK. “Hm? Window decorators and shit? Nahhh, those are your problem. Go roll your own.” For the flagship windowing toolkit of the GNOME Project, the DE I’d consider the closest in philosophy to what macOS has going on, that was a rather strange position to take.
The forced menubar becomes absurd on an ultrawide monitor. Nobody needs a 49" wide menu or task bar
Well, I also tend to consider ultrawide monitors a mistake in their own right. Why would you want a 49" wide literally anything if it’s not some kind of immersive media experience where menus are irrelevant anyway?
Of course, if that is in fact exactly what you bought it for, I have no complaints. Even if I disagree with having one for other purposes, that’s still no reason for the OS to punish you for having one when you try to use it that way when that problem is completely avoidable.
A 49" ultrawide is just two 27" bezel-less basically. And games that support 5120 horizontal resolution look amazing.
It’s also great when programming. I usually have an IDE/text editor, documentation/browser, email/teams and a couple of terminals open at all times and being able to see all of them at once is really helpful.
Granted, you could get the same with two 27" monitors, but add ultrawide gaming to that and it’s pretty much a no-brainer for me.
I’d rather have multiple monitors so I have the more intuituve window snapping. But to each their own.
I’m firmly in both camps. Window snapping is much more flexible on a single monitor- I can’t really do quarters on a side-by-side setup, but I can on an ultrawide. However, I love having a second monitor in portrait.
Until they make T shaped displays that I can mount sideways, to get the best of both worlds, I guess my best option is a single massive screen, where I only use a thin strip of one half.
Were you also a proud owner of an LG Wing? 😉
Honestly, ultrawide for spreadsheets is awesome.
Wish I knew what half these acronyms stand for.
Edit: Actually it’s not that many.
VRR is variable refresh rate. Not sure about the others
Two video terms: Variable Refresh Rate and Low Framerate Compensation (adjusting the refresh rate for the framerate of a slower video source). Both pertain mostly in gaming and entertainment software.
CUA is Common User Access, which just means standards such as universally implementing Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V for copy/paste in apps. Linux devs do tend to follow common conventions, they just aren’t as strictly enforced as when a corporation has near-total control over the software.
Kinto can replace shortcut with super one. It use xkeysnail to grab all key input and change on fly. Also has some default shortcut change for some program to make feel like macos.
Actually can use for modify all input on system and move accel key around on keyboard.
That’s only an option if you want to be stuck with Xorg. That’s not really a realistic option in 2024.
cannot even restart wayland session in gnome. wayland is not a realistic option in 2024.
Shared GPU memory (as described in that article) is just how Windows decided to solve the problem of oversubscription of VRAM. Linux solves it differently (looks like it just allocates what it needs in demand and uses GART to address it, but I would like to know more).
So I’m curious what you mean when you say you miss it. Are you having programs crash OOM when running on Linux? Because that shouldn’t be happening.
It’s not ideal to be relying on shared gpu mem anyway (at least in a dgpu scenario). Kinda like saying you have a preference on which crutches to use.
There is one game called Cities: Skylines 2 that always fills up my VRAM, so yeah, I’m getting an OOM, but on the VRAM (I have GTX 1660super with 6 gigs of VRAM and I have 32 gigs of system RAM). I encourage you to try playing this game with a moderately sized city and with this GPU.
Assuming C:S2 uses DX and you’re running it through proton/dxvk, it’s ultimately the Vulkan driver’s job to page to system memory correctly. This honestly sounds like you’re seeing a bug. In that circumstance, it shouldn’t crash, it should just hurt performance from all the paging. I see a couple of older issues where people were seeing exactly this kind of issue with DXVK+Nvidia.
One other thing to try is, idk if you’re running the game in dx11 or dx12 mode, but apparently both exist. If it’s currently running in dx11 mode, try the launch flag
-force-d3d12
. If you’re already using dx12, maybe try swapping back to dx11. Good luck!Well, it probably is. I’ll soon be getting a GPU with a bigger VRAM and putting that GPU into my home server for Jellyfin as a replacement for QuickSync (NVENC is better, imo).
Did you try their fix? Often it really is as easy as adding a launch option
I added
game modern mangohud PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 %command%
to the startup configuration and it still runs like shit. I’ll try running it on a Windows VM (VMware as a hypervisor).I meant the:
one. Might need to put “%command%” after it, but I’m still not 100% sure what that even means and why its there so I dunno.
Edit: I would also check out the entry for the game on ProtonDB if you haven’t already (sorry if someone else has already told you all this elsewhere in the thread) to see if anyone else has had similar issues: www.protondb.com/app/949230
I haven’t played C:S2 yet, so I can’t say personally, but it could just be a poorly optimized game.
The
-force-d3d12
option is a param to the actual game, so it would go after%command%
(or by itself if no prefixes are being added).“Runs like shit” is expected when you’re relying on paging to system memory every frame, step 1 is to avoid a crash from oom/failed alloc.
The next step is to reduce paging if possible. I see C:S2 has a min spec of a 4GB GPU. Assuming they actually tuned their game for such a card on windows, the unfortunate reality of proton/DXVK is that there’s a bit of a memory overhead and lack of knowledge about residency priority, especially when translating a dx11 game.
DX12 maps to Vulkan more closely, so my hope is that the
-force-d3d12
flag would give DXVK better info to work with (ex. hopefully the game makes use of dx12 heaps and placed resources, which are 1:1 with vulkan concepts, and dxvk can make use of that to better ensure the most important resources don’t get paged out).C:S2 is a resource hog, even on Windows. The game still needs a lot of optimizations.
Being able to sync music or movies to my iPhone/iPad. More of an Apple issue than Linux, yet Mac/PC is compatible.
VLC does work, but since it’s not how Apple wants you to use your device it’s not as convincing nor flushed out.
Check out the infuse app with a network share. Works way better than iTunes
Trying to avoid apps with subscriptions. The way I see it, it’s a question of when not if they change how the app works.
Fair enough
Here’s the list of things I miss:
Underrated take imho
Bug-free Skyrim. That’s the only thing in the last decade I miss.
That’s never been a thing, even in Windows.
I only miss Musicbee on Windows. I’ve created an offline Windows VM for that one single program.
/usr/ports
&/usr/sbin/pkg
SIGINFO
bound to^T
native ZFS root
Ooh, I see, a true BSD user!
the only thing linux has going for it is GPU drivers. :-(
Every game I want to play actually working first time everytime.
Yeah, even after owning a Steam Deck for a year and recently switching my Desktop to Linux, its very hard to get the settings right. Things Like uplay working in Steam Deck but Not out of the Box in my Desktop seems so insensical to me.
I’m running Bazzite, and haven’t had a single issue running a game…
I’m running bazzite too. What games have you been playing?
All of them… Lol. Way too big of a back log.
But I just picked up Tape to Tape and it’s super fun. Giving me vibes of old 16bit hockey games. What else…
I finally got Neon White on PC. Got it way back when it came out on Switch and played a little, but really prefer mouse and keyboard for fps. Very fun game.
Lorn’s Lure is another one I’ve been playing a lot. Amazing game, nothing quite like it.
Was enjoying UFO50, but haven’t picked it up in a couple weeks. Gonna go back to it.
What about you
So far I’ve tried space engineers, counter strike and beamng.drive although I haven’t gotten any of them to launch yet except counter strike but I have had terrible frame rate and stuttering that made it unplayable.
Maybe it’s your hardware? I recently got a Framework laptop, and Bazzite has a distro image tailored specifically for the hardware, and I think that makes a big difference.
But even still, I ran Arch (well EndeavourOS) on my old Laptop, and it ran the games that the specs could run…
When you launch a game for the first time are you letting it go for a bit (sometimes a minute or two even) while it seems like nothing is happening? This is just for the initial launch, but in my experience, it can seem like it’s not working but if you just let it go it will load. Then every time after that it’s right away.
Also, check your Steam settings re: compiling shaders and uncheck the setting to have them compile while playing. This will compile the shaders before the game launches (a pop-up will show you the % complete), and it prevents stuttering.
Other than that, all I can think is hardware… Or maybe you’re just super unlucky at picking games. I do always check ProtonDB first, so that could be why I’ve had nothing but good experiences.
I have beamng, but the one that plays like Wipeout, and I believe that one works. Though I think I’ve only tried it on my Steam Deck and not on Bazzite. Also, I understand it’s a different game.
Edit: Yeah, looking at protondb it looks like Space Engineers is one people have some issue with. Sometimes you can get it to work using solutions on there, but I guess every now and then you don’t. Hasn’t happened to me yet.
Update: I got space engineers and beamng.drive working it was probably a problem with not having write permission on my hdd(see comment I put above)
I am pretty sure i am running counter strike natively at the moment. How do I change it between running natively and running with proton? I think it might perform better with proton.
If you click settings for the game, and go to “compatibility,” you can click the dropdown and choose “Proton Experimental” (or Proton-GE imo). The game will probably need an “update” but it will just take a few seconds.
Oh, Linux started being like that some 3 or 4 years ago for me. Of course, it depends to some extent on the actual games you want to play. Destiny 2 is apparently never gonna run.
Look at the post I sent to prole my experience has not really been smooth sailing.
How to know someone hasn’t gamed on Linux in years.
Not like that at all now.
I’ve been on Linux for 3 years now, and while almost every game works everytime, there are still a few that I either can’t get to run, or when I do they are unstable and require tinkering to get right. Catherine is a big one, that has gotten a lot better with more recent versions of proton, but still has glitches especially when transitioning from gameplay to cutscene.
Actually I’m completely new to Linux and only started using it as my main pc a few days ago. The games I’ve tried so far is: cs2 which plays natively without proton but with significant performance impacts which makes it virtually unplayable. And I’ve tried space engineers which is supposed to work but without audio (it wouldn’t launch for me) and beamng which is gold in protondb but I couldn’t get it to launch at all. Come to think of it I must be doing something wrong because so far I haven’t been able to get any game to launch when using proton.
Often times, games that have a native Linux runtime will still play better using proton and the Windows version. So try that with cs2. Only source game I’ve played is HL2 (recently) and i think I might have had to switch to Proton for it to run well, but I forget.
There isn’t really anything wrong to do… The first time you load up a game, it might take a little bit longer, so you might have to let it sit for a minute while Steam says “exit” instead of “play game” (meaning the button you click in Steam to start the game). That’s only the first load, after that, it should load right up.
You might also want to look at you settings for loading shaders (steam settings). I prefer to compile shaders before the game starts so as to avoid stuttering in the first few min, but it can also make it so it takes an additional 30 sec or so to open the game.
Another suggestion I’d have is to get proton-GE. Basically it’s some dude’s custom proton release that usually has better compatibility and often works better than official (if you want to avoid having to download a separate program, try “proton experimental” in your Steam compatibility options).
But getting proton-GE is easy. You have to switch to desktop mode once and use Discover (app store basically) to download “protonupQT” (I believe, this is all from memory so it might be slightly off). You can run that app in desktop mode, or do what I do and go back to game mode and add it as a “non-Steam game”. Now you can update proton-ge without having to go into desktop mode…
Anyway, I’m sure that seems like a lot but it’s really not. Hope it helps.
Edit: I’m just realizing now that your didn’t mean “Counter Strike,” but rather “Cities Skylines”. Yeah, can’t speak to the performance there. Still worth trying Windows version with proton
No you were actually right the first time! I did mean counter strike. Thanks for the help though.
Update: I got beamng.drive to work I haven’t tried space engineers although my guess is it will work but without audio (acording to everyone on protondb) whuch is unplayable imo so i will probably use windows for that. The problem was that I didn’t have write permissions on my secondary hard drive which is probably linked to my Windows install (I am currently dual booting with two ssd’s) so I installed beamng onto my main ssd and everything just worked!
Not sure how to fix the write permission error I’ve tried launching dolphin with root privileges. At the moment the best solution I can think of is formatting my hdd on Windows and then that may fix it. Although it would be nice if there was a solution without formatting it.
Windows has spell checking and autocomplete that works in pretty much any app and I think it works really well. I often find that I can type sentences a lot faster in Windows.
Their grammar checking though, insufferable when you use complex sentence structure.
HDR support and good VR support.
I suppose another way to say that while also outing myself as a real corporate shill is “better Nvidia support”
Valve Index works fine under Linux.
I gave it a shot and it was stuttering really bad multiple times per second. I’m sure if I worked on it more it would work better but I haven’t looked into it too much yet. That’s why I said “good support” since whatever it is right now is not as good as it could be
HDR support is there in KDE Plasma 6, works flawlessly for me
Functionality is a program by program thing, at least Wayland.
I installed Bazzite Nvidia edition and HDR worked fine (after manually configuring gamescope) and then one day the HDR options for my monitor in the display settings panel disappeared and gamescope’s HDR stuff stopped working and I still can’t figure out why.
Damn, ok that’s really weird. Have you tried asking in the Universal Blue/Bazzite forum? universal-blue.discourse.group
Not on my AMD card. Using Bazzite (based on Fedora Kionite) btw.
It’s supposed to have it. I can’t get any game to do it, though; the option’s always disabled.
.
Hdr works on:
Kde.
Gamescope (can maybe be used for hdr if you don’t wanna use KDE)
Hdr is currently being worked on for gnome.
I installed Bazzite Nvidia edition and HDR worked fine (after manually configuring gamescope) and then one day the HDR options for my monitor in the display settings panel disappeared and gamescope’s HDR stuff stopped working and I still can’t figure out why.
Not something I use personally, but a super easy, #JustWorks kiosk mode.
It’s the only thing I think Windows does better than Linux.
Don’t get me wrong, you can turn Linux into a great kiosk device, but it takes a lot of technical labor.
In the IT space, I often need to set up a basic kiosk device for HR portals, safety training stations, etc. In Windows, this takes 5 minutes tops.
If I had the programming chops, it would be my #1 project to work on. Even if it only worked with a specific DE or distro, I would be alright with that, as long as it was as easy and quick to set up as Windows Kiosk mode.
I havent needed to stup kiosk mode (yet), but whats challenging about it? I always wondered why would people put up with Windows on these kiosks, instead of a simple Linux OS?
There are window managers / compositors, which fulfill kiosk mode, ex. Cage.
It’s the ease if use. In Windows, you select an option called kiosk mode, select a user account or create one to use, then tell Windows what webpage/site URL to use for the locked down browser interface. Then you click go and that’s it.
You have a locked down, reasonably secure single-use kiosk for your Company HR portal, in-house web app, or training portal, literally takes less than 5 minutes, and is so simple, I could walk a non-techie through the whole process easily over the phone.
Things like cage are already more technical and tough to setup than that, by a large margin.
It’s great if you need something more powerful, or you want a bunch of kiosks that you can roll out on a low power SBC. But for one-off basic kiosks that use a little mini-tower, Windows kiosk mode is pretty great.
Messages.app
I’m about to switch from Windows back to Ubuntu, which I ran for a year or two but I missed Photoshop and Visual Studio. I’ve been using VSCode for dev work for a while and it’s fine, and I can live with Gimp. I haven’t used Office in years (Google docs & sheets are great). So I really don’t expect to miss anything this time.
You could try running them with wine. I have done so with Photoshop but it was pretty long ago and it was not a subscription version of Photoshop, but maybe vs will work out for you otherwise you could try rider all my colleagues who did the switch after some learning curve loves it a lot more than vs. It is faster and resharper doesn’t slow down like it do with vs.
Bluestacks for me :(
Ohhh yeahhh Same :(, especially am a nvidia user and way droid only supports wayland and only amd and intel gpus.
I can run waydroid but it hasn’t been as good as bluestacks at all, + it doesn’t have the toolbars and keybinds it does sadly.
And there is no in game controls and stuff compared to bluestacks aswell.
Exactly. I miss playing Pokémon unite with my friend using it, sadly now have to use my phone which is less than optimal cus I started liking phones a bit less as of late
Why not use Waydroid?
BC its WayWORSE, a lot of stuff don’t install properly, and its missing that toolbar on the side, u can’t set keybinds. And thus its more or less useless for playing videogames nearly all of the time. (For me at least.) Example, Pokémon unite. Its a moba and I can’t move and attack at the same time cus there can only he one mouse at the same time. I’m glad it exists at the very least cus I can install the occasional app that doesn’t have a Linux counterpart, like voyager for Lemmy for example. Not that many Lemmy apps on Linux and I’d rather use an app than the site personally.
When looking at a file knowing immediately what physical drive it is on.
Can’t you just mount them on different high level folders? I got /Games for games, /Misc for tinkering with stuff and everything else on /. So I usually know what hard drive my stuff is on.
Yes, but if I am tinkering with someone else’s system I don’t know if they did that.
Yeah, that’s a point I didn’t consider.
Veeam endpoint backup. The GUI does not exist and the cli version does not work with Fedora 41 and btrfs. I think it is the file system that is not supported. However, I use timeshift but it is not sending it remotely.
I’m not sure if this would work, it would definitely be more of a hassle if it does, but can you install Veeam B&R community edition and use it’s agent to do a backup, or does that really only work on VMs?
I doubt that as the agent need to work first. Which it does not. And it will not solve the gui part. I do not accept running one extra VM as solution. Better is to look for alternative backup solution.
On Windows, there used to be (possibly a third-party application) a desktop widget that had a “turtle”, and if you clicked on the widget it would drop a little pixel of food, and the turtle would slowly walk over to it and consume it. I thought that was really cool.
Hypnospace outlawwww www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQwQnsarYsY
My Steam library.
What happened to it?
Oh. Half of it doesn’t work on Linux. Which isn’t really a big deal.
Never been super into PC gaming. Couldn’t afford to get my foot in the door.
That really surprises me, since Windows and macOS games can be virtualised with (almost) no performance overhead.
Online games with anti-cheat software tends to block you, such as League of Legends and Valorant, but most offline, and non-competitive online, games just work.
You may need to go into the Steam settings, the tab Compatibility, and choose a Proton version.
Proton Experimental is recommended, this may sound weird but it’s just their rolling-release version and it’s very stable.
Being able to operate without a keyboard. Perfect for home theatre pc
Tax software solutions with my state included. I can’t use the EZ online file options.
Game pass
Windows’ lightweight photo editing thing. Great for highlighting screenshots.
All image editing software on linux (that I’ve tried) is 10x more clunky.
MS Office Picture manager? I have to use 2-3 photo editing tools to do the same job now. Also, powerpoint from MS office 2007.
I’ve been using Flameshot, and it’s been awesome for just this. Tons of annotations, and very easy to copy or save screenshots.
Yeah but in my LMDE, Flameshot wont save files and is buggy as shit. It has an option to selext what App to open the screen shot in and that does’t work, share with another app and that doesn’t work, save the file and the files not there. Now, highly possible it works for others and just not for me
Hell, my Logitech kb can’t even use the screenshot button to take a screenshot.
I just use work arounds but still annoying.
I’ll check it out, thanks!
Uh, Shared GPU memory absolutely exists on Linux. Mind you this only exists (regardless of OS) when you have a shitty integrated GPU with no dedicated VRAM, but I am not sure why you think this only exists for Windows (or some other non-Linux OS, you did not specify).
Pretty sure I saw on the arch wiki you can even use exclusive vram on a system
I miss targeted advertisements. It’s important that my OS tracks what my interests are, so that I can be served more relevant advertising.
Advertising that doesn’t know my interests doesn’t hold my interest, and having no ads means that I have no idea what I’m supposed to purchase next. It’s crazy.
I loved the constant pop-ups with offers for things I could purchase. If I don’t purchase something frequently enough I get sad so it’s nice to have an OS that cares about my well being.
Thanks for taking the downvotes for the team. I laughed anyway :)
I miss my computer’s performance being held hostage by “Active Protection” feature of Virus scanner!
I’m 100% sure that Raspberry Pi has that. I can set how much of ram will go for the gpu. But raspberry pi’s gpu isn’t really a gpu.
I’d say a Control Panel, I miss the plethora of authoritive knowledge and settings for every program, device, driver, network, user, and a dozen more things besides, all findable by browsing and not remembering dozens of commands. Of course I’d miss that either way, because Control Panel has been gutted every new version of windows since XP, but it was once nice.
The Start menu context menu, or SUPER+X, is still nice, although mostly for avoiding poor UI choices and slow menus. The fact that many useful options are guaranteed to be there on every windows machine is nice though.
And I would also say Event Viewer, despite how incredibly clunky it is to use. Having one place to check all system logs and track crashes of all kinds was quite useful.
Basically, windows at one point went out of it’s way to centralize settings and info, and that’s just not possible in Linux without a lot of setup.
As someone trapped using windows I also miss ye olde control panel, and they lob new pieces of it off with every feature update
I honestly loved some of the default Windows apps, like Notepad, Paint and believe it or not, the default file manager. I find that most file explorers on Linux can’t strike a good balance between simplicity and the amount of features.
Thankfully (or not, if you use Windows) they started enshittifying each and every one of them, so there’s nothing to miss any more.
Games :(
At least that is something that is getting better and better. Though I do hope that if Steam OS and Proton keep pushing things at the rate we are seeing. Maybe Linux will get used enough to justify more devs to make real Linux releases of games instead of just Windows releases. Apple finally getting their stuff able to run things at similar levels of gaming PCs is also kind of helping with breaking out of Windows only code.
From macOS: that the basics in UI are so much more consistent and just work. For example shortcuts across apps. This makes me insanely productive.
Nexusmods.
They are working on a cross platform app now. I can click mod manager download on cyberpunk mods, and it will install them as easy as the windows version.
Currently takes a bit of tinkering to set up, but its promising.
Oooohhhh!
Also, if you’re okay downloading and installing mods manually, many of them “just work”, even some of the more tricky ones if you’re willing to tinker a bit. Some games have mod installers that are cross platform (for example, Satisfactory Mod Manager has a linux version and it works great).
Visual Studio. But VSCodium mostly makes up for it.
Desktop session restore. Shut down pc, turn back on, everything like when shut down. Or on crash, sometime even kernel panic, restart and right back to work.
The ability to properly wake from sleep.
Not having to set my displayport version back to 2.1 upon every boot.
What kernel, distro, and gpu are you running?
bazzite:stable
Bazzite 41 (FROM Fedora Kinoite)
Linux 6.11.9-303.bazzite.fc41.x86_64
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (16) @ 5.01 GHz
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX [Discrete]
AMD Raphael [Integrated]
6.31 GiB / 62.01 GiB (10%)
447.25 GiB / 1.82 TiB (24%) - btrfs [Read-only]
7680x2160 @ 240 Hz (as 5120x1440) in 57" [External]
KDE Plasma 6.2.3
KWin (Wayland)
.
What’s
sudo lsmod | grep amd && sudo dmesg | grep VGA
Return?
Also is KDE the standard DE for bazzite?
Full output of that command:
And yes, KDE is standard. If I wanted Gnome, that’s a different download entirely and is based on Fedora Silverblue.
Ok so it’s not on the OS level. Might be a wake setting in the bios. Allow wake from USB might fix it.
From discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/…/135241
That’s all I got sorry. Good luck
When I switched from Windows to Linux back in 2002, I never looked back. I missed absolutely nothing. Linux offered everything I needed and more, with unmatched freedom and flexibility. In late 2008, I bought a unibody MacBook, and while macOS wasn’t bad per se, it just didn’t feel like home. I missed Linux too much, so I wiped the MacBook and installed Debian. From that moment on, I’ve never switched again—Linux has always been home. I’m currently rocking Arch (btw) on my main desktop & Debian on my laptop…
roblox (i miss it only a bit)
I don’t miss it, but my kids miss me playing with them.
I’m aware bottles can make it work, but it’s not straight forward on NixOS and I’ve heard some people getting banned in some games from running on emulation.
If I have to list a single thing that most irritates me on Linux then it is easily copying files to a USB connected drive.
The progress bar passes 100% and I get notification the files were copied but they were in fact not copied yet, it still takes several more minutes until I can actually unplug the connected drive or I’ll lose the files.
Hokei, so. Usb “packets” are 12 bytes or something, and it’s not good for performance to stop the flow. The solution is, as always, to have a buffer. Problem is that some kernel geniuses decided that GIGABYTES is a good buffer size. This was all when spinning hdds were the standard and new fast usbs were comming, but still.
Oh, and for some reason the transfer bar sometimes works fine for me.
I run
udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdX#
in the terminal. When it completes, it means the files have finished copying and the partition was unmounted.I’ll give that a try next time I’ll need to copy something, thanks
Our just run
sync
, which isn’t as completely foolproof, but is easy.For some reason my computer lags a lot but that might be because I have way too many tabs.
destiny 2
There was a lot more I missed when I switched, can’t think of anything now. I was going to joke that I miss being 19. But eh, I’m doing better now than I was then.
I do like that splash screen on Windows before login, where it shows me a different beautiful landscape each day.
I’m honestly surprised that nobody has said anything about MS Office, but it’s not like I expect anyone to miss the application itself, it’s just that if your work requires you to interface with it, there really is no alternative to running Windows or MacOS. Microsoft’s own Office Online versions of the apps do a worse job of maintaining DOC/PPT formatting consistency than the possible Russian spyware that is OnlyOffice, which also screws things up too often to be relied upon. LibreOffice is, let’s be honest, a total mess (with the exception of Calc, which also isn’t consistent with the current version of Excel, but can do some things that Excel no longer can do, so I appreciate it more as a complementary tool than as a replacement).
I never thought I’d miss xlookup… But here I am. Calc isn’t bad, I hate the ui but that may just be years of excel muscle memory getting to me. But calc does 99% of what I need it to. The rest of libreoffice I never touch.
SoftMaker Office is what I’ve used on Linux for lots of years. Has served me well.
I had never heard of it before now–thanks!
I’ve been using Linux primarily for 24 years and exclusively for like… 10-12. When I HAVE to use another OS (for work or something) I miss all my tools and feel powerless. It drives me nuts.
AutoHotKey
I am argree
The lack of a good cad software (fusion 360), and no, freecad and openscad are not worthy equivalents.
This is how to trim a curve on a point in FreeCAD. Honestly hilarious. Tried using it recently, and I couldn’t follow a basic tutorial without it breaking. This is a recent fair review of FreeCAD, and it still needs a lot of work even after its 1.0 release before it is worth using. I’m considering going back to OpenSCAD for a simple project, and then I will try using build123d in python (CadQuery is a more user-friendly alternative, at least as far as I am told).
I’m curious how well these CAD kernel projects written in Rust will turn out: Fornjot / Truck
Thanks for the detailed explanation, will definitely check those projects out!
it’s this. muh goadd. Its like going back to the days before blender was good and trying lightwave because your friend is convinced it was better than maya or 3ds max, and making thay whole experience four times worse. I guess every now and then you run in to a software so inconceivably counterintuitive that no tutorial can help you produce meaningful work. meanwhile I haven’t followed any tutorials apart from those for 2000’s era modellers meant for games and movies and I’ve been able to make what I need fairly easily in f360 or onshape.
Effort free gaming on Windows
I’ll acknowledge that gaming is much better than when I entered the field 20 years ago,
but it was so nice being able to just install a game and have it function instead of install a game and play the 50/50 gamble of whether or not it’s going to have some bug that forces me to go online and search the issue.
Proton DB has been a lifesaver for most issues that have occurred, but there are still so many games that have obscure problems that while not all of them prevent you from playing at all, a good portion of them have issues with them that dampen the gaming experience.
And as a bonus one, the lack of a decent Android emulator. I have tried so many different emulators for Android, and all of them work notoriously worse than BlueStacks did on Windows and a lot of times take up double the space it did. As a person who plays a lot of mobile games that require constant looking at, it was so much easier to just have it running in BlueStacks on the third monitor and then just look at it when needed
I miss effort free gaming on windows too. It looks like they laid off everyone in that department and put everything in to AI and subscription begging which has made it a miserable experience lately. I had to click deceptively placed no buttons like 30 times just to get to the desktop so I could update the damned mobo rgb controller to detect and turn off the lights
Windows update holding me hostage like the slut I am
Online games just working.
I know, I’m probably off better without Chinese and Korean rootkits installed, but Infinity Nikki looks so darn comfy to play.
Oh, and HDR and 144Hz. Both in X-Server as well as in Wayland, over a good DP, I can select 199.98Hz at best. Never managed to fix it. Same computer, monitor and cable used to do 144Hz just fine on Windows, before.
HDR is really gone, though, but I don’t miss that as much.