Anybody know how to get lossless audio on linux?
from strawberry@kbin.earth to linux@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 02:30
https://kbin.earth/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/311445

I pay for apple music, but all the linux clients seem to just be webapps which support 256AAC at most. Any way to maybe automatically download my library as flac and keep it locally (legal or not idc)

cant move services as every other service sucks (yes i have tried them all (tidal, spotify, qobuzz, deezer)

thank you all

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zenharbinger@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 02:32 next collapse

Wine/bottles? I do use qobuz in a bottle and get hd audio out to my dac.

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 02:39 next collapse

I don’t think the Apple Music Windows app does lossless or hi-res either

zenharbinger@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 02:59 next collapse

Man, it sounds like if HD is your requirement, Apple really might not be the best.

Short of an Android emulator, it sounds like they don’t want it out of their ecosystem.

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 03:10 collapse

That is true. Waydroid might work. No idea if you can get lossless through that.

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 03:27 collapse

says it does

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 03:33 collapse

If it does now, that might be an option. It didn’t when I got rid of Apple music.

mranderson17@infosec.pub on 07 Sep 2024 06:21 collapse

the qobuz webapp is hi-res too, I just use it in Firefox and my dac reports the same bit/sample rate that qobuz does. AFAIK there’s no compression there though I haven’t extensively verified that, only that the end result is 24bit/192kHz if that’s what qobuz says is playing.

EDIT: Also, qobuz is nice because there’s very few things you can click on in the web interface which cause the music to stop playing. I really appreciate that feature… looking at you bandcamp…

zenharbinger@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 11:52 collapse

I’m too likely to close a web browser. plus I keep getting logged out. But I did notice that too.

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 02:38 next collapse

I know you said you don’t want to switch, but I was in a similar situation, switched to Qobuz, installed qobuz-dl and navidrome, and now Qobuz is just an input for my self-hosted streaming service.

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 07 Sep 2024 02:52 next collapse

Deezer

SteveTech@programming.dev on 07 Sep 2024 03:08 next collapse

cant move services as every other service sucks

What are your requirements?

I use Tidal and I know High/Max quality works in the web UI, just needs widevine support.

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 03:20 collapse

spotify doesnt have lossless, deezers app is really slow, tidals is janky and slow, qobuzz was missing 20% of my library (though maybe ill check again, they used a different service for transfers)

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de on 07 Sep 2024 03:13 next collapse

The easiest way to get lossless music is to buy a CD and rip it. Of course you can always sail the high seas too. 🏴‍☠️

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 03:28 next collapse

sailing the high seas is great, thats why i said legal or not. however, i dont know of a way to automatically get my am library and download it through something like nicotine

last time i did it was a very manual process

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 03:39 next collapse

Soundiiz -> last.fm or spotify playlist -> Newsbin or torrent + lidarr

jlow@beehaw.org on 07 Sep 2024 21:08 collapse

Yes, Arrs are the way: wiki.servarr.com

Rekorse@sh.itjust.works on 07 Sep 2024 09:28 collapse

Convert from apple to another music product and then automate that?

BradleyUffner@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2024 08:40 collapse

That’s still too lossey. I prefer to hire the band to follow me around for the day. It’s the only true way.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 07 Sep 2024 03:28 next collapse

Pretty much the same way you do on Windows & Mac.

baseless_discourse@mander.xyz on 07 Sep 2024 04:39 next collapse

bandcamp is great! you can just pay and download music in whatever format (flac, wav, mp3), no questions asked.

They don’t have the Taylor Swifts of the world, but most indy bands and artists are on there, which is good enough for me.

For classical music, there is presto music, but their download experience is not as straight forward as bandcamp IMO.

teawrecks@sopuli.xyz on 07 Sep 2024 16:04 next collapse

Also, yesterday was Bandcamp Friday (they forgoe their cut and everything goes to the artist). The next two are Oct 4th and Dec 6th.

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 16:09 next collapse

yeah no I listen to mostly bigger names

baseless_discourse@mander.xyz on 07 Sep 2024 16:20 collapse

Then if you care about the artists being compensated fairly, you can CD+rip; if not, streamrip/torrent will produce a lot less waste and much more convenient.

TBH most big names are millionaires anyway, I probably would care much more about my convenience than them getting paid 5 bucks for all my troubles.

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 16:44 next collapse

I support the artists I love by seeing them love and buying their merch, pays them far more than a few streams would anyways

nfsm@discuss.tchncs.de on 07 Sep 2024 20:07 collapse

I have similar thoughts. I use bandcamp for smaller artists but I would recommend nicotine+ on Linux

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 21:03 collapse

yeah I used nicotine in the past, but lidarr seems better

0x0@programming.dev on 09 Sep 2024 11:47 collapse

I don’t care about the profits of big artists and i refuse rental/streaming, so if they have their own site or i can find them elsewhere, fine, otherwise it’s the high seas. HDtracks has some big names.

For smaller bands there’s bandcamp. Is sellaband still a thing?

0x0@programming.dev on 09 Sep 2024 11:45 collapse

HDtracks is a bit more commercial and FLAC friendly.

banazir@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 05:12 next collapse

Can’t help you there, I buy CDs and lossless copies from Bandcamp and Qobuz. Those work for me.

domi@lemmy.secnd.me on 07 Sep 2024 07:08 next collapse

I know you said no service change but I use this Tidal client which works really well and goes up to 24-bit 192 kHz: github.com/Mastermindzh/tidal-hifi

I also download FLACs from Tidal, Deezer or Qobuz. You can find downloaders for them very easily.

jjlinux@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 12:49 next collapse

Is there anything like this for Android that you’re aware of? That would be awesome.

domi@lemmy.secnd.me on 08 Sep 2024 19:05 collapse

Do you mean for downloading or for streaming? I use the normal Tidal app which already does the highest quality. Not the best app in the world but it does the job and I mostly listen to downloaded music anyway.

jjlinux@lemmy.ml on 09 Sep 2024 14:04 collapse

I’m sorry, I should have been clearer. Yes, I meant for streaming. I also have all my favorite music downloaded and play them locally (sort of, self-hosted from my home server). But way back when I was part of the Spotify crowd I came across great songs I didn’t know about, so streaming is a great way to find those hidden jewels. I just don’t want to have any of those apps trying to mine a boatload of data constantly from my devices.

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 13:32 next collapse

tidal has the most atrocious android app I have seen in my life

baseless_discourse@mander.xyz on 07 Sep 2024 15:51 collapse

If you can download music, you can either host your own using navidrome, or just use a local player like auxio.

The only downside to this approach is that the artists you like might not get compensated fairly, as most streaming service pay by stream times. This is also why I prefer buying music than streaming.

kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de on 07 Sep 2024 13:34 collapse

IIRC, one can integrate Tidal with music players like Strawberry on nix too, I think.

illectrility@sh.itjust.works on 07 Sep 2024 08:21 next collapse

Soulseek

Pilferjinx@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 08:54 next collapse

nicotine+ is a nice soulseek interface.

kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de on 07 Sep 2024 13:39 collapse

This is the only true answer here. Answers like Bandcamp (which hardly has a repository big enough) or switching to Tidal aren’t practical. OP paid for his music, and deserves access to it.

I have Amazon Prime as part of Prime Unlimited but holy Christ, have I never gotten their web app to stream in Linux. As long as greediness on part of these lousy corporations live on, piracy would remain the only true option.

beerclue@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2024 09:02 next collapse

I don’t think it works with Apple, but I really like Streamrip. It works with Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer and SoundCloud. Just adding it to the list of recommendations.

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 07 Sep 2024 12:04 next collapse

How many albums you plan to downloads that require automation? I downloaded mine off of various torrent sites (about 300+ songs) and I still haven’t listened to all of them yet

y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 2024 15:47 next collapse

Check out some of the *ARR apps like Lidarr and pair it with something like sabnzbd or ubittorrent qbittorrent

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 07 Sep 2024 16:17 next collapse

*if you like piracy

y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 2024 16:30 next collapse

from OP’s post:

“legal or not idc”

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 16:43 next collapse

I don't mind. I support the artists I love by seeing them live and buying merch, pays them way more than a few streams anyways

strawberry@kbin.earth on 07 Sep 2024 16:44 collapse

oh I love piracy

steersman2484@sh.itjust.works on 07 Sep 2024 16:58 collapse

*qbittorrent

y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 2024 17:39 collapse

Yep! My bad. Lemme edit that lol

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