Allow traffic only through tun0 via wlan0, ssh, and localhost in and out
from sykaster@feddit.nl to linux@lemmy.ml on 27 Apr 12:52
https://feddit.nl/post/33050065

Hi all, I’m trying to have my rpi5 running raspberry OS communicate with the Internet only through the tun0 interface (vpn). For this I wanted to create a ufw ruleset. Unfortunately, I’ve hit a roadblock and I can’t figure out where I’m going wrong.

Can you help me discover why this ruleset doesn’t allow Internet communication over tun0? When I disable ufw I can access the Internet.

The VPN connection is already established, so it should keep working, right?

I hope you can help me out!

This is the script with the ruleset: sudo ufw reset

Set default policies

sudo ufw default deny incoming

sudo ufw default deny outgoing

Allow SSH access

sudo ufw allow ssh

Allow local network traffic

sudo ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/16

sudo ufw allow out to 192.168.0.0/16

Allow traffic through VPN tunnel

sudo ufw allow in on tun0

sudo ufw allow out on tun0

Add routing between interfaces (I read its necessary, not sure why?)

sudo ufw route allow in on tun0 out on wlan0

sudo ufw route allow in on wlan0 out on tun0

sudo ufw enable

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just_another_person@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 13:00 next collapse

ufw is a firewall. Routing controls traffic flow. You want to set the default route of that machine to only use the tun0 interface. Random link explains

As a secondary step you can set your firewall to block any traffic trying to exit an interface I suppose, but it really shouldn’t be necessary.

For your other services on the local network for your subnet, just add a secondary route only for your subnet that uses your router as a gateway.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 13:07 collapse

That makes sense, but it’s possible that the VPN connection drops for a second, and then it can’t re-establish it, right? How would I deal with that?

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 14:01 next collapse

It wouldn’t be able to communicate with the internet, but would still be able to talk to your local network.

If that’s not specifically what you’re trying to do, and you don’t care if traffic might go out over your regular Internet connection, then you can create a fail over type situation where it will try and use a “backup” route to communicate to the internet if needed, though you’ll need to spend some time really making it pretty smooth: baeldung.com/…/multiple-default-gateways-outbound…

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 14:04 collapse

I guess what I’m really trying to do is make sure that whatever happens, if the vpn fails (tun0), there is no more communication with the Internet.

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 14:37 next collapse

Then the first setup does that.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 15:36 collapse

Except that that set of rules doesn’t work, or do you mean defining a default gateway?

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 15:46 collapse

The default gateway. If it’s not passing traffic, your machine doesn’t go looking elsewhere for routes that work. Read through both the links, and they’ll give you extra background.

HelloRoot@lemy.lol on 27 Apr 14:38 collapse

That is called a “Kill Switch” try to search for that.

JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca on 27 Apr 14:34 collapse

Remove default route using physical interface

Add route only to the IP of the VPN server

Bring up VPN

Add default route to traverse the tunnel

TauZero@mander.xyz on 27 Apr 13:24 next collapse

sudo ufw default deny outgoing

I’m guessing this would block the VPN packets themselves as well.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 13:30 collapse

It does, but later I have the rules to counteract those, for the VPN specifically: sudo ufw allow in on tun0 sudo ufw allow out on tun0

So that would open that up again, or am I wrong?

TauZero@mander.xyz on 27 Apr 13:40 collapse

That allows sending packets inside the VPN tunnel, but the outer envelope packets still need to be able to reach the VPN server.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 13:44 collapse

I see, but then how would I disable everything else? Should I not use the default rules?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 13:55 collapse

Add an allow rule for the VPN traffic on wlan0 to your VPN server.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 13:56 collapse

Hmm, but wouldn’t that allow applications to communicate on wlan0 without using the vpn?

Thanks for your help and excuse my ignorance.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 14:30 collapse

Only if they were a VPN app talking to the VPN server.

mnmalst@lemmy.zip on 27 Apr 14:38 next collapse

This is how I do it:

sudo ufw default deny outgoing
sudo ufw default deny incoming
sudo ufw allow out on tun0 from any to any

sudo ufw allow out to VPN_IP_ADDRESS proto udp

You have to do the last line for all your VPN server ips or the initial DNS request will not go through. If you connect through udp.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 14:42 next collapse

Interesting, but by the time I apply the rules the VPN connection has already been established. Wouldn’t that remove the necessity for the last line?

mnmalst@lemmy.zip on 27 Apr 15:03 collapse

Just to be clear this is a killswitch, that’s what you want right? So that it’s only possible to connect through the VPN (tun0). And if the VPN goes down your internet gets “killed” so you don’t leak your IP.

In that case you want to start ufw when you system starts, so you would need to whitelist your VPN but if your VPN is already connected it should work without whitelisting the IP I guess but never tried it since that’s not recommended.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 15:38 collapse

Understood, yes it’s a kill switch. I’ll test your set of rules in a bit and let you know!

catloaf@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 16:33 collapse

*or the initial VPN connection request will not go through.

But mentioning DNS is a good point: if you’re addressing your VPN server by hostname, your client will need to be able to resolve that name somehow, either by running a DNS server elsewhere on your LAN and allowing traffic to the LAN (which is how I do it) or by allowing DNS traffic from the VPN client to a DNS server on the Internet.

jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Apr 15:50 next collapse

wg-quick takes a different approach, using an ip rule to send all traffic (except its own) to a different routing table with only the wireguard interface. I topped it up with iptables rules to block everything except DNS and the wireguard udp port on the main interface. I also disabled ipv6 on the main interface, to avoid any non-RFC1918 addresses appearing in the (in my case) container at all.

oshu@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 16:05 collapse

If your concern is ensuring a killswitch type vpn setup, I do that but in a different and simple way.

I have a GLinet microrouter configured to join the vpn and active killswitch mode. This is 2 clicks in the menu. I connect it to my network via its wan port.

Everything I want behind the VPN gets connected to the microrouter lan port and job done.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 27 Apr 18:09 collapse

Interesting! I’m new to this, this is really valuable! What made you choose this approach?

oshu@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 20:31 collapse

Its simple and I can easily put a laptop or phone or whatever behind the microrouter and have confidence its only using the vpn.

When I travel I take a second microrouter with me to connect to the hotel wifi. All my devices are set to use the microrouter wifi so they never touch the hotel network, only the vpn. Easy, private, and avoids any filtering the hotek is doing.