helenslunch@feddit.nl
on 05 Jun 15:13
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Hard to imagine a Linux user would want to run anything on hardware that costs a fortune and is also completely and intentionally unupgradeable and irreparable…
Much less that they would go to such great lengths to bring such software into existence.
Easy to imagine when you understand that this is developed to support hardware that is widely popular and that will be sold by a lot less in the second-hand market in a couple of years, and that this makes far easier for people that are currently stuck in this walled garden to experiment with free software.
True, but the M1 MacBooks have really taken a beating in price. And the Airs were already quite a good deal to start with, so they do still seem competitive (8GB RAM notwithstanding). Been using a base model air since launch, and unless I hit swap super hard (I rarely do) it’s still great :)
There’s not a whole lot of good options for decent ARM PCs and the M1s are legitimately pretty good machines, repairability aside.
Even if you can’t repair them at least it’s pretty much guaranteed they can at least have their OS upgraded to a libre one. There’s going to be millions of them on the used market in a few years for cheap.
I have zero complaints about the hardware of my work provided MacBook Pro, very nice machine to use overall.
Are they the best bang for the buck? No. But Linux isn’t just about getting as much as possible for as little money as possible. Not everyone wants to daily drive an old bulky ThinkPad because it’s free-er. I’m happy with my framework but the battery life, keyboard and touchpad are quite inferior compared to my work MacBook. I wouldn’t buy one for myself, but I can recognize it’s still a nice machine and it’s much better than whatever crap Microsoft is pushing out with its Surface line.
ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca
on 05 Jun 19:38
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Meh, if just wanting a lightweight laptop that’s fast even when unplugged there’s people who would be OK paying $700 for a M1 MBAir or a bit more for a 16GB version. They’re great laptops, the Rust compiler is very fast on M1/2 and with no fan noise. If buying Apple Refurbished they’re like new.
I’m on a refurb M2 Air that I picked up from Apple for peanuts. It took me about 15m to get NixOS running on the thing, and it’s going to last me for 10 years, if my old MBP is anything to go by.
Also, regardless of the hardware politics, I’m not sure I’ve been in awe of a project as much as I have the Asahi team. They’re just doing so much so quickly and with such command of the subject … and they’re so young. It’s a joy to watch them work.
leopold@lemmy.kde.social
on 06 Jun 12:27
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Nah, a ton of Linux fans seem to shill hard for Apple for some reason.
Wow what a neat project, I have spent a lot of time recently working around vulkan on m1 machines with compatibility layers and while it’s not a huge pain it does suck to miss out on some of the more powerful features of vulkan that the hardware is certainly capable of. I’m not keen on learning metal to bridge the gap and this is just what the doctor ordered.
Those people are legendary. A bunch of nerds singlehandedly defeating a multi-billions dollars business. I have an M1 for work, if they can manage for Asahi Linux to take advantage of the GPU, I will do 90% of my work on Linux.
if they can manage for Asahi Linux to take advantage of the GPU
Umm, it already does for quite a while now (at least for regular usage). The work they’re currently doing will enable people to play games and other GPU-intensive work.
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Hard to imagine a Linux user would want to run anything on hardware that costs a fortune and is also completely and intentionally unupgradeable and irreparable…
Much less that they would go to such great lengths to bring such software into existence.
Easy to imagine when you understand that this is developed to support hardware that is widely popular and that will be sold by a lot less in the second-hand market in a couple of years, and that this makes far easier for people that are currently stuck in this walled garden to experiment with free software.
Apple devices tend to also have wild resale values.
True, but the M1 MacBooks have really taken a beating in price. And the Airs were already quite a good deal to start with, so they do still seem competitive (8GB RAM notwithstanding). Been using a base model air since launch, and unless I hit swap super hard (I rarely do) it’s still great :)
There’s not a whole lot of good options for decent ARM PCs and the M1s are legitimately pretty good machines, repairability aside.
Even if you can’t repair them at least it’s pretty much guaranteed they can at least have their OS upgraded to a libre one. There’s going to be millions of them on the used market in a few years for cheap.
I have zero complaints about the hardware of my work provided MacBook Pro, very nice machine to use overall.
Are they the best bang for the buck? No. But Linux isn’t just about getting as much as possible for as little money as possible. Not everyone wants to daily drive an old bulky ThinkPad because it’s free-er. I’m happy with my framework but the battery life, keyboard and touchpad are quite inferior compared to my work MacBook. I wouldn’t buy one for myself, but I can recognize it’s still a nice machine and it’s much better than whatever crap Microsoft is pushing out with its Surface line.
Meh, if just wanting a lightweight laptop that’s fast even when unplugged there’s people who would be OK paying $700 for a M1 MBAir or a bit more for a 16GB version. They’re great laptops, the Rust compiler is very fast on M1/2 and with no fan noise. If buying Apple Refurbished they’re like new.
I’m on a refurb M2 Air that I picked up from Apple for peanuts. It took me about 15m to get NixOS running on the thing, and it’s going to last me for 10 years, if my old MBP is anything to go by.
Also, regardless of the hardware politics, I’m not sure I’ve been in awe of a project as much as I have the Asahi team. They’re just doing so much so quickly and with such command of the subject … and they’re so young. It’s a joy to watch them work.
Nah, a ton of Linux fans seem to shill hard for Apple for some reason.
Sadly, Apple is doing ARM CPUs for desktop/laptop PC incredibly well, and at a cheaper price than just about any competitor.
Before the Macbook Pro M1 I would’ve hard agreed with you, but this sentiment no longer goes with the current ARM PC’s that they’re selling.
Well, you’re entitled to your wrong opinions 🙂
Wow what a neat project, I have spent a lot of time recently working around vulkan on m1 machines with compatibility layers and while it’s not a huge pain it does suck to miss out on some of the more powerful features of vulkan that the hardware is certainly capable of. I’m not keen on learning metal to bridge the gap and this is just what the doctor ordered.
This will be a huge boon for me, way to go!
Those people are legendary. A bunch of nerds singlehandedly defeating a multi-billions dollars business. I have an M1 for work, if they can manage for Asahi Linux to take advantage of the GPU, I will do 90% of my work on Linux.
Umm, it already does for quite a while now (at least for regular usage). The work they’re currently doing will enable people to play games and other GPU-intensive work.
That’s what I meant. I’ve tried a bit of video editing in DaVinci Studio and the performance was far from what I get on macOS.
Oh boy, Davinci? Don’t hold your breath, it’s super picky even with the more mature GPU drivers.
That’s what I was thinking at first but at the speed things are moving with these people, anything can happen.