Exactly, I’m trying to work with my local library to host a free W11 upgrade workshop with volunteers and even they’re like “um does anyone care about this?”
I plan on offering Linux as well but I’m thinking of older people who I simply want to make sure have a computer that continues to get updates. While I personally run everything in my personal life FOSS I can recognize that’s not necessarily the right move to switch up someone’s entire computer and then peace out. I think of it as harm reduction, in the same way I volunteer for needle exchanges. I offer information and support to get off heroin but for those who aren’t ready I offer clean needles. Sorry I know this was a long ass reply and your question was probably rhetorical, but that’s why
If they can’t I’d either recommend to use Linux or buy a new computer. I wouldn’t want to support “unsupported” installation of Windows 11 on “older” hardware, even if it worked perfectly fine as of now, since that would be asking for problems later.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org
on 04 Jun 12:54
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You would be surprised by how many people buy a new computer, just because Windows end support. Most are not aware of Linux or think its a complicated geek system that only hackers use, because they read some weird comments about and from Linux users. At this time, campaigns like these are needed.
Elderly people will absolutely believe they need to buy a new computer. They don’t understand the tech, just hear Win 10 will no longer be supported and their computer can’t run Win 11, so new PC.
Source: Recent conversation with my mother-in-law.
My suggestion for people finally looking to switch from Win 10 to a Linux distro; if you have an Nvidia card, avoid Gnome (desktop env. many distros ship with it). It’s unfortunate since Gnome looks and feels great but my lord is it unstable on Nvidia drivers. I’ve tried to stabilize on my RTX 3080 but no luck.
Sorry that it is not working for you, and it definitely worth people keeping in mind that issues can happen, but it is not quite so binary as “don’t use GNOME if you have Nvidia”.
Plenty of people use Nvidia and GNOME together successfully. I have an Nvidia 2070 RTX and it works very well with GNOME on Fedora Workstation. I’ve never even had to install anything or mess with settings, it just worked automatically.
Now I obviously cannot point to any specific driver issues or the like, so I cannot make any general conclusions other than from my own experience.
Maybe the issues stems from the Ampere architecture of the 30-series. However I would still issue a warning, although still recommend people curious to try out Fedora with Gnome, even if you have an Nvidia card.
But they are presented and optimized in a different way. Not only for the search engines, but also the way how it affects the human. And in the end (no pun intended BTW), one is talking about KDE specifically, showcases it and goes a bit more indepth. And the other is a very short and simple page, talking about Linux in general with a few key bullet points. So having two different ways is not a bad idea actually.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org
on 04 Jun 12:50
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Nice article. But a little bit too wordy and long. They need to shorten this a bit, if this is an initial page trying to make it clear.
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Exactly, I’m trying to work with my local library to host a free W11 upgrade workshop with volunteers and even they’re like “um does anyone care about this?”
Why would you want people you upgrade to 11?
Some people just like having a UI built out of javascript and the contents of their entire computer sent to a Microsoft datacenter.
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You’re thinking of GNOME Shell.
I couldn’t tell you, I’m a terminal dweller.
I mean sudo I couldn’t tell you, I’m a terminal dweller.
I plan on offering Linux as well but I’m thinking of older people who I simply want to make sure have a computer that continues to get updates. While I personally run everything in my personal life FOSS I can recognize that’s not necessarily the right move to switch up someone’s entire computer and then peace out. I think of it as harm reduction, in the same way I volunteer for needle exchanges. I offer information and support to get off heroin but for those who aren’t ready I offer clean needles. Sorry I know this was a long ass reply and your question was probably rhetorical, but that’s why
It’s better for them to upgrade to windows 11 than stay on unsecure OS.
And of they can’t due to the TPM requirement?
If they can’t I’d either recommend to use Linux or buy a new computer. I wouldn’t want to support “unsupported” installation of Windows 11 on “older” hardware, even if it worked perfectly fine as of now, since that would be asking for problems later.
You would be surprised by how many people buy a new computer, just because Windows end support. Most are not aware of Linux or think its a complicated geek system that only hackers use, because they read some weird comments about and from Linux users. At this time, campaigns like these are needed.
Elderly people will absolutely believe they need to buy a new computer. They don’t understand the tech, just hear Win 10 will no longer be supported and their computer can’t run Win 11, so new PC.
Source: Recent conversation with my mother-in-law.
Also GNOME shows this campaign on their website
My suggestion for people finally looking to switch from Win 10 to a Linux distro; if you have an Nvidia card, avoid Gnome (desktop env. many distros ship with it). It’s unfortunate since Gnome looks and feels great but my lord is it unstable on Nvidia drivers. I’ve tried to stabilize on my RTX 3080 but no luck.
My folly was HDR support, and boy that aint easy.
Sorry that it is not working for you, and it definitely worth people keeping in mind that issues can happen, but it is not quite so binary as “don’t use GNOME if you have Nvidia”.
Plenty of people use Nvidia and GNOME together successfully. I have an Nvidia 2070 RTX and it works very well with GNOME on Fedora Workstation. I’ve never even had to install anything or mess with settings, it just worked automatically.
Now I obviously cannot point to any specific driver issues or the like, so I cannot make any general conclusions other than from my own experience.
Maybe the issues stems from the Ampere architecture of the 30-series. However I would still issue a warning, although still recommend people curious to try out Fedora with Gnome, even if you have an Nvidia card.
endof10.org is hosted on KDE infrastructure, why are there two competing initiatives?
Why not?
Well it kinda fragments the effort. Each campaign has to essentially do the same things, but twice.
But they are presented and optimized in a different way. Not only for the search engines, but also the way how it affects the human. And in the end (no pun intended BTW), one is talking about KDE specifically, showcases it and goes a bit more indepth. And the other is a very short and simple page, talking about Linux in general with a few key bullet points. So having two different ways is not a bad idea actually.
Nice article. But a little bit too wordy and long. They need to shorten this a bit, if this is an initial page trying to make it clear.
KDE really is what windows promised to become back in the XP days and just never did.