What are people daily driving these days?
from blotz@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 12:31
https://lemmy.world/post/8776555

I’m between distros and looking for a new daily driver for my laptop. What are people daily driving these days? Are there any new cool things to try?

I have been using linux mint recently. I have used nixos and arch in the past. Personally, linux mint uses flatpacks too much for my liking. Although, I might have a warped perspective after using arch. (the aur is crazy big)

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ar0177417@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 12:35 next collapse

Artix (Basically Arch without Systemd)

blotz@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 12:41 collapse

Does artix only boot without systemd or is it completely systemd-less? If it is systemd-less, how do services like docker work with that?

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 26 Nov 2023 13:43 collapse

Most services just need the init system to start, stop and monitor them. There’s no special integration needed for each of them beyond running a command, monitoring the PID, and killing the PID when it’s time to stop.

If you mean the special integration of docker and podman with systemd, first of all that’s only required in rootless mode and not everybody runs rootless (most users probably run root docker). In rootless mode you have to manage each container individually as if it were a standalone service instead of just managing docker. Basically you have to integrate each container into the init system, whatever that is. There are some tools that make it easier to with podman+systemd because they write the systemd units for you but you can do it with any init system. The distro mostly doesn’t care because you have to do the work not them.

TwinHaelix@reddthat.com on 26 Nov 2023 12:38 next collapse

Arch on my home server, Zorin on my laptop

heeplr@feddit.de on 26 Nov 2023 12:57 collapse

Zorin

Not sure if I’d trust an OS named like a Bond villain.

zingo@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 14:25 collapse

Yes. Another product from Zorin Industries.

0x2d@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 21:40 collapse

I have very mixed thoughts on Zorin OS

It looks nice in the screenshots, but it charges $40 for “premium” which is pretty much the same as the free one, besides it having a few extra themes, and some “professional creative software” and stuff (free software that they are bundling in, and acting as if it’s exclusive to Zorin or something)

They also have an IT management tool called Zorin Grid that has said “coming soon” for years now

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Nov 2023 12:38 next collapse

If you want the cool new thing, it’s Nix

blotz@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 12:46 collapse

I tried nix actually. Personally, I think it would make a great server os, but I do not enjoy it as a daily driver. I didn’t like the fact that I was forced to install everything through nix and couldn’t compile software from source.

musicmatze@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 13:01 collapse

Nix is a source code package manager and compiles everything from source, except when there’s a binary substitute available.

Zyansheep@programming.dev on 26 Nov 2023 14:47 collapse

And binary caching can even be disabled if you want a gentoo-like experience!

Deregon@jlai.lu on 26 Nov 2023 12:43 next collapse

NixOS user here! Fedora is a very good contender as well

musicmatze@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 13:02 next collapse

+1 on NixOS. On all devices except Android phones since 2014 for me.

BastingChemina@slrpnk.net on 27 Nov 2023 23:49 collapse

NixOS too. I really like having a “fresh” install every time I restart.

foiledAgain@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 12:54 next collapse

Fedora but I’m not loving it. Due to my hardware I think I’m limited to that, arch and openSuse.

xohshoo@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 23:42 collapse

? If you’re hardware runs Fedora, it should run anything

[deleted] on 26 Nov 2023 13:03 next collapse

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astraeus@programming.dev on 26 Nov 2023 13:05 next collapse

Username tells me this is a trap

KISSmyOS@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 13:44 collapse

The worst crime here is using Arch.

oh_gosh_its_osh@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 13:06 next collapse

Fedora Silverblue. But when switching I had to wrap my head around the differences in the workflow of doing things. Once youre past that it’s rock solid and had no issues so far.

KISSmyOS@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 13:46 collapse

when switching I had to wrap my head around the differences in the workflow of doing things. Once youre past that it’s rock solid and had no issues so far.

This is the case with every distro nowadays.

furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Nov 2023 13:09 next collapse

cachyos

Carter@feddit.uk on 26 Nov 2023 13:10 next collapse

OpenSUSE TW for me. Used to be Arch but it’s just too much faff for me.

ProtonBadger@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 20:02 collapse

Same, I've used Linux since the late nineties and know my way around but I have other things to do. TW with Plasma/Wayland is great.

rebul@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 13:12 next collapse

OS/2

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 14:09 next collapse

Fun fact, it took os2 5 years to implement a tcpip stack. It was like 1993 before it could do internet things

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 16:35 collapse

To be fair, Winsock was a kludgy mess for the better part of a decade itself.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 16:33 collapse

Dude.

chaogomu@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 13:23 next collapse

I recently switched my laptop to Garuda, it's an Arch based gaming distro. It seems to mostly work right out of the box, but I did have to tweak a few steam games to force them to use my dedicated graphics.

I guess I could go in and force steam itself to use the graphics card via env... But I only have a handful of large games at the moment. It's just as easy to set the requirement per game right now.

Carunga@feddit.de on 26 Nov 2023 18:37 collapse

I usw Garuda with KDE and like it lot, even though I do not game.

01011@monero.town on 26 Nov 2023 13:28 next collapse

Void

estebanlm@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 13:34 next collapse

Manjaro Gnome. It just works ;)

0x2d@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 21:43 collapse

until your system randomly breaks in classic manjaro fashion

estebanlm@lemmy.ml on 27 Nov 2023 10:17 next collapse

well, I has been already years using Manjaro and never happened to me.
Not that it can’t, but never happened to me and I hope it wont :)

RockyC@fosstodon.org on 27 Nov 2023 22:50 collapse

@0x2d @estebanlm I use Manjaro GNOME on all four of my laptops and my iMac. I have never had a random break on any of them.

makmarian@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 13:36 next collapse

I've been using EndeavourOS with KDE for a bit under 2 years now (I think) on both my desktop and laptop. It is Arch based and easy to install. And for my home servers I run Proxmox

LeFantome@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 08:10 collapse

Out-of-the-box, Proxmox runs on Debian. That and PiHole are the two Debian instances I run.

EntropyPure@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 13:36 next collapse

Pretty happy with Debian Testing. Frequent updates but still very stable and rock solid.

sp3ctre@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 13:38 next collapse

Debian with KDE works great for my needs.

CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Nov 2023 13:41 next collapse

For laptops, I’ve been using EndeavourOS lately. All of the Arch goodness, but with an easy installer that handles the DE too. It’s as close to “just works” as you can get while still having pacman + AUR at the end.

I still love raw Arch, but I leave that for server installs.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 15:50 next collapse

Same, EOS is awesome and cured my distro-hopping.

threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Nov 2023 21:47 next collapse

archinstall let’s you choose a DE too

Salix@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2023 01:19 collapse

Not saying anything bad about EndeavourOS, because it’s great, but:

All of the Arch goodness, but with an easy installer that handles the DE too.

Arch has a guided TUI installer included in it’s ISO that does this too.

CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Nov 2023 01:31 collapse

It does, but it’s done me wrong a few times so I never recommend it. For all I know it’s fine these days, but old grudges are hard do shake.

embed_me@programming.dev on 26 Nov 2023 13:43 next collapse

Arch + gnome but it doesn’t matter at this point

krimson@feddit.nl on 26 Nov 2023 13:45 next collapse

Arch for many, many years. Absolutely zero reasons to switch. I used to distro hop alot back in the day but I don’t bother with that anymore. I need a system that works and Arch gives me exactly that.

jaykay@lemmy.zip on 26 Nov 2023 15:59 collapse

Why distro hop from arch if you can make any distro out of it anyway lol I use arch btw

KISSmyOS@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 13:48 next collapse

Debian Sid, mostly for ideological reasons.

xohshoo@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 23:30 next collapse

I assume you mean Debian for ideology, not Sid, unless you have strong feelings about breaking toys

but is that because of the community nature of Debian, or because default it’s free software only? Guessing the former, since there are other options for the latter

KISSmyOS@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 06:35 next collapse

Yes, it’s the community nature. I just love how there is no corporation behind it.

MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 07:26 collapse

Some people also like super stable

uis@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 14:47 collapse
GustavoM@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 13:56 next collapse

Arch on my “desktop PC”, Armbian on my rpi 4, Dietpi soon ™ on my Orange pi zero 3.

atomic@programming.dev on 26 Nov 2023 13:56 next collapse

Gentoo, running pure Wayland and Pipewire, no X11.

0x2d@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 21:44 collapse

which de?

atomic@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 02:25 collapse

River WM

Phanatik@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 13:58 next collapse

Arch with Wayland and Pipewire. Running SwayWM and have never been happier with my setup.

knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml on 26 Nov 2023 13:59 next collapse

Mint on my desktop, decided to try out Tumbleweed on a cheap laptop. KDE wasn’t for me / wasn’t reliable enough, but I’m happy with Gnome. I haven’t needed to use Flatpacks though.

Might try MicroOS on the servers, I like the idea of an immutable distro so less can go wrong during updates, and I run all services as containers anyway.

WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee on 26 Nov 2023 14:05 next collapse

OpenSuse tumbleweed + kde plasma for a peace of mind 👍

csfirecracker@lemmyf.uk on 26 Nov 2023 16:37 collapse

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee on 26 Nov 2023 18:10 next collapse

Indeed there are my dude!

milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev on 27 Nov 2023 11:03 collapse

I am amongst you scholars and noblemen.

mvirts@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 14:34 next collapse

Nixos for me! But my dark secret is that I also have an Ubuntu partition those things that I can’t get working.

fazo96@lemmy.trippy.pizza on 26 Nov 2023 15:29 collapse

Check out distrobox. It’s a way to have a Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) container and allows you to install Ubuntu packages, even desktop applications.

It works great for when you need to install a random .deb file or follow a very Ubuntu specific step by step procedure. I use it exactly for this kind of stuff.

No rebooting needed, integrates fully with the host system, no virtual machine either.

llothar@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 14:35 next collapse

PopOS on gaming PC Fedora Silverblue on daily PC Ubuntu Server LTS for small servers Ubuntu Desktop LTS for digital signage

blotz@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 14:47 collapse

What’s fedora like to use? I dont see it mentioned as much as Debian or Arch.

thayer@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 17:19 collapse

I’ve been running Fedora Silverblue on nearly all of my PCs for about a year now and overall it’s been great.

  • Automatic and unobtrusive updates for the core OS and user apps (everything happens in the background without interaction; flatpak updates are applied immediately, and OS updates are applied at next boot)
  • I can choose to apply many core updates immediately, but rarely do
  • Atomic OS updates means that everything must be installed successfully or none of the OS updates are applied, which prevents a partially updated system
  • Being an image-based distro, I can and do easily rebase to Fedora’s test/beta/remix releases, and just as easily rollback, or run both stable and beta releases side by side for testing purposes
  • Being image-based means there’s no chance of orphaned packages or library files being left behind after an update, resulting in a cleaner system over time
  • In the event that anything does go sideways after a system update (hasn’t happened yet), I can easily rollback to the previous version at boot

Some elements not unique to Silverblue but part of its common workflow:

  • Distrobox/toolbox allow you to run any other distro as a container, and then use that distro’s apps as if they were native to your host system; this includes systemd services, locally installed RPMs, debs, etc.; I use distrobox to keep most of my dev workflow within my preferred Archlinux environment
  • Flatpaks are the FOSS community’s answer to Ubuntu’s Snaps, providing universal 1-click installation of sandboxed user apps (mostly GUI based); Firefox, Steam, VLC, and thousands of other apps are available to users, all without the need for root access

My only complaints about Silverblue are more to do with how Flatpaks work right now, such as:

  • Drag & drop doesn’t work between apps, at least not for the apps I’ve attempted to use; for example, dragging a pic into a chat window for sharing; instead, I have to browse to and select the image from within the chat app
  • Firefox won’t open a link clicked within Thunderbird unless the browser is already open, otherwise it just opens a blank tab
  • Many flatpak apps are maintained by unofficial volunteers, and this isn’t always clear on Flathub; I view this as a security risk and would prefer to see a flag or warning of some kind when a flatpak is not maintained by the official upstream developer

That said, I’m confident that these issues will be addressed over time. The platform has already come a long way these past couple of years and now that the KDE and GNOME teams are collaborating for it, things will only get better.

Like I said though, overall Silverblue has been a really great user experience, and as a nearly 20-year Linux veteran it has really changed the way I view computing.

jack@monero.town on 27 Nov 2023 11:11 collapse

Do you have to watch a loading screen while system updates are applied like on regular Fedora or is it in the background?

Many flatpak apps are maintained by unofficial volunteers, and this isn’t always clear on Flathub; I view this as a security risk and would prefer to see a flag or warning of some kind when a flatpak is not maintained by the official upstream developer

On flathub.org there’s a blue checkmark for apps maintained by the devs

thayer@lemmy.ca on 27 Nov 2023 17:10 collapse

Do you have to watch a loading screen while system updates are applied like on regular Fedora or is it in the background?

The image is downloaded and staged in the background of the active session. Upon reboot, the session seamlessly defaults to the staged image. For flatpaks, the updates happen immediately and without the need for a reboot.

On flathub.org there’s a blue checkmark for apps maintained by the devs

Aha, that must be one of the newer features implemented from the beta portal they’d been working on. I’m glad to hear it, and overall I hope to see more official upstream devs come on board with the platform (Signal, I’m looking at you).

jack@monero.town on 27 Nov 2023 20:40 collapse

The image is downloaded and staged in the background of the active session. Upon reboot, the session seamlessly defaults to the staged image. For flatpaks, the updates happen immediately and without the need for a reboot.

That’s great to hear. Maybe I’ll give Silverblue a try

thayer@lemmy.ca on 28 Nov 2023 04:45 collapse

Sounds good. I don’t think the automatic background updates are enabled by default, at least they weren’t when I last installed it. To enable:

  1. Edit /etc/rpm-ostreed.conf and set AutomaticUpdatePolicy=stage
  2. Reload system service: rpm-ostree reload
  3. Enable the timer daemon: systemctl enable rpm-ostreed-automatic.timer --now

Also, consider disabling GNOME Software’s management of flatpaks with the following:

rpm-ostree override remove gnome-software-rpm-ostree

The flatpaks will continue to be updated by the backend system, but you’ll no longer have to deal with the sluggish frontend UI to keep things up to date.

jack@monero.town on 28 Nov 2023 12:29 collapse

I will keep that in mind, thank you

callyral@pawb.social on 26 Nov 2023 14:35 next collapse

void linux (glibc) + swayfx + waybar + foot terminal + nushell

davemeech@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 14:36 next collapse

I’m about ready to hop back in and daily drive Linux again after the nightmare that was attempting debian w/KDE plasma and Wayland. I have a Nvidia GPU on my laptop and for some reason I did not have luck at all after moderate success daily driving opensuse tumbleweed and kubuntu for a while.

I’m admittedly looking to onboard myself to the gnome workflow and leave the comfort of the windows style desktop environment experience. Gnome seems a bit more polished and stable than KDE plasma but it’s interface isn’t intuitive to me yet.

Ideally I’ll be using Debian or Arch when the time comes for me to dive back into desktop Linux.

Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Nov 2023 14:48 collapse

KDE fixed a lot of Wayland bugs over the last months and especially with the upcoming launch of Plasma 6.0, so I’d give it a try again now or in half a year.

Nvidia also constantly fixes the problems with their Wayland support so it’s only getting better. Debian doesn’t have recent enough packages to have a good KDE Wayland experience.

Gnome Wayland doesn’t support features like vrr/adaptive sync or tearing, so it isn’t a good gaming experience. Otherwise it’s great.

davemeech@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 16:14 collapse

This is good information.

Yeah I imagine the struggles I had with Debian had something to do with enabling proprietary drivers and firmware and leveraging those. Before getting those drivers, the default nouveau drivers were awful, the performance was comically bad.

I’m also not a Linux power user though, so for sure any or all of the above could be meatware issues.

flubba86@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 14:44 next collapse

Nobara these days. It’s based on Fedora 38.

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 2023 15:00 next collapse

Threads like this are exactly what keeps a good few of us from ever getting started. Lol. Good fun to read through though. One day I’ll pick a distro and give it a whirl. Till then, thanks for the entertainment.

elia169@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 15:32 next collapse

Aren't people just responding to the question being asked though?

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 16:31 next collapse

Lots of aficionados maybe

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 2023 20:18 collapse

Some of us really just want the computer to work. It’s mostly just a fancy tape recorder to me.

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 2023 20:15 collapse

They are. They didn’t do anything wrong. I’m just frustrated.

xohshoo@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 23:39 collapse

what’s the problem? Happy to help if I can

these days it’s pretty easy to just pick one and go, but you can still run into issues, and for people new to linux it can be frustruating for sure. When I started using linux, I didn’t even really know what a terminal was, so a lot of the stuff I would read on forums etc (it was a long time ago) I couldn’t even put into practice. I once got insulted for asking a dumb question with both RTFM and PEBCAC but didn’t even know I had been insulted. Just kept plugging away and eventually got it going. I think PCLinuxOS was the first distro I ran seriously as a “daily driver” and I think that stuck because the community on the forums was the friendliest

kpw@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 19:00 next collapse

You sound like those people that "can't use Mastodon" because they have to choose a server first and that's too complicated.

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 2023 20:09 collapse

You sound like those people who bitch about Microsoft having a monopoly on home computer operating systems while gatekeeping the fuck out of Linux. Get fucked, man.

kpw@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 20:13 collapse

Where am I gatekeeping Linux?? Also I don't care what other people use that's entirely their problem.

Thorned_Rose@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 20:36 collapse

I would just move on. Some people have a bee in their bonnet and can't look past their own problems and see why other folks might find certain discussions useful.

Personally, when I was first looking at switching to Linux (and then through distro hopping) I found discussion like these great as I could see other people's reasons for choosing the distro they did.

blotz@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 12:29 collapse

Not sure why people are downvoting this person. They aren’t wrong that Linux enthusiast threads can make it scary for new users to try Linux out. Unfortunately, I did want to see what Linux enthusiasts are running and why they picked it, which is why I made this thread.

If you are a new user trying to get into Linux, I wouldn’t recommend some suggestions in this thread as advice for picking a distro. When I was getting into Linux, I attempted to go straight into DWM/arch because another Linux enthusiast thread said it was great. Needless to say, I had a terrible time.

It doesn’t actually matter distro what you pick, so long as you have fun with it and it is useable! :)

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 27 Nov 2023 15:09 collapse

I hurt them in their safe space. I don’t know why. My comment was made lightly. I read all the threads. This one read just like the last “where do I start” thread, and that was all I was saying at the time. It got me in a fight with one guy. Whatever. I’m just trying not to have a rough time when I finally pull the trigger so I read. My mistake was chiming in. Lesson learned. I’ll come back when I blow up my machine i guess and let everyone tell me how stupid I was to try whatever it is I finally try. All I want is something that works and software that does what I want. I’m afraid I may be asking too much.

nezach@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Nov 2023 15:03 next collapse

Endeavouros on Laptop and main PC. Loving it.

reddit_sux@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:03 next collapse

I use Arch BTW…

Joking aside I use Arch on my desktop, Raspbian on RPi1, Debian on homeserver and VMs.

NixDev@programming.dev on 26 Nov 2023 15:23 next collapse

I have 2 PCs running Arch currently. My SBC is running Ubuntu but that is just a print service for my 3d printer. I have a few Ubuntu & Fedora vns for testing and self study

uis@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 14:44 collapse

Gentoo on desktop, gentoo on Rock64, gentoo on Allwinner A10 device, gentoo on Powerbook G4(don’t ask why I have it). Ah, and OpenWRT on router.

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derrg@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:05 next collapse

Pop!_OS on my desktop and laptop since 2020.

MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 15:09 next collapse

Arch + XFCE on my desktop. Have been for a while now, and everytime i try something else, I always come back to it. For my laptop, I’ve been using Gnome + extensions (Arch as well. That way I don’t gotta switch gears and remember two different sets of commands) before i had to take it in for repairs. Was pretty good because of the mousepad gestures IMO.

owenfromcanada@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:13 next collapse

I’m using Mint, but I’ve avoided using flatpaks (generally downloading DEB packages directly, or adding ppa sources). It’s worked pretty well so far.

I do have a handful of AppImages, but they’re a bit easier to work with.

WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Nov 2023 19:03 collapse

Why avoid using Flatpaks if you don’t mind me asking

owenfromcanada@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 19:49 collapse

Two reasons: they’re big, and they’re sandboxed.

I was on a 5Mbit connection until recently, so a lot of flatpaks being 1GB+ was frustrating (especially when their native packages were <100MB). And I was using a 250GB SSD, which filled up rather quickly.

And it turns out I wasn’t a fan of the sandboxing aspect. In theory it should be a good thing, but turned out to be frustrating.

WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Nov 2023 07:27 collapse

Thanks for the answer, I bever relized that they were larger

ikidd@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:20 next collapse

After years of Manjaro (and I still use it on most of my computers), I’m trying out Nobara KDE to see how it keeps up for gaming. It has a number of optimizations that Glorious Eggroll has compiled and seems pretty fast compared to Manjaro on the same hardware. I imagine I could do all the changes on Manjaro, but I also wanted to see how Fedora runs these days, it’s been a long time since I used it on the daily.

So far, so good.

pr06lefs@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 15:30 next collapse

nixos + xmonad + xfce-no-desktop here. Its not for noobs perhaps but so stable and confidence inspiring.

markkdark@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 15:34 next collapse

Arch + Hyprland on my Notebook, Endeavor OS + Gnome PC (11years old PC), 2x Khadas VIM3L + Kodi (Coreelec), home server Odroid + Armbian.

pelotron@midwest.social on 27 Nov 2023 05:58 collapse

<3 Hyprland

christophski@feddit.uk on 26 Nov 2023 15:43 next collapse

Ubuntu. It’s working and I don’t have the time to try out other distros.

Emi621@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Nov 2023 15:55 collapse

Wanted to try Ubuntu after using mainly Manjaro but I have only 4gb flash drive and the iso is like 5-6gb so I can’t install it. But so far I’m satisfied with Manjaro Xfce and prefer it to gnu

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 16:29 collapse

That’s the universe telling you to put an 8GB flash drive on your holiday wish list.

xohshoo@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 22:02 collapse

is it that big because of the snaps? It used to be (well after it breached to 700M CD limit) ~1.5G and AFAIK doesn’t include a lot more default software?

Blaster_M@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:47 next collapse

I daily Windows 11… though I use Ubuntu for servers and Mint for my linux desktops (older hardware that doesn’t W11).

YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 15:50 next collapse

Debian for a while, now Mint (I’m a Cinnamon freak)

const_void@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 15:55 next collapse

Why is everyone saying “daily drive” all of a sudden?

Thorned_Rose@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 20:31 collapse

Where is that a new thing? I've been using Linux since early 2010s and people were using that term back then (and it wasn't a new term then either)

Nukken@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 16:06 next collapse

Acura MDX

kurcatovium@lemm.ee on 26 Nov 2023 16:10 next collapse

Hannah Montana Linux, the one and only original!

xohshoo@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 21:56 collapse

Rebecca Black here, though now that Wayland is everywhere, should switch

humancrayon@sh.itjust.works on 26 Nov 2023 16:14 next collapse

Mint for my daily driver, PopOS for my gaming machine. Happy with both.

longshanks197@kbin.social on 26 Nov 2023 15:44 next collapse

Devuan (Debian without systemd), stable (Daedalus) with backports. Been running Debian since 2000, Devuan since 2018. I am at a point where I just want consistency and familiarity in my setup.

Edit: as far as cool new things, I have moved to pipewire for audio and leveraging a selfhosted nextcloud for web based file storage. For a personal setup (limited users) I just installed Nextcloud office which is basically Libreoffice in a browser like Google docs. I am also using mythtv with an hdhomerun for broadcast tv. None of this is really "new" but new to me. The setup of these functions has been fairly straightforward for me and I appreciate all the work these projects have put to make the setup and maintenance fairly painless.

GreyFalcon@iusearchlinux.fyi on 26 Nov 2023 16:17 next collapse

Manjaro kde on 3 computers in the ham shack, manjaro KDE on the media center, and guess what’s on the two lap tops…you got it…manjaro KDE. Most have windows 10 dual boot on a separate drive. I haven’t spent the time to figure out radio control and antenna switching on Linux so windows is still needed for radio contesting.

I have tried many and keep going back to manjaro, everything just works. The Arch wiki is awesome, and the aur has multiviewer to F1, ready to go.

LeFantome@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 08:07 collapse

Give EndeavourOS a go one of these days and compare it head-to-head with Manjaro. I bet you never look back.

GreyFalcon@iusearchlinux.fyi on 27 Nov 2023 14:37 collapse

Already tried it a few times. Back to manjaro.

lautan@lemmy.ca on 26 Nov 2023 16:25 next collapse

Popos on the Framework laptop. It’s pretty good so far.

Adonnen@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 00:18 collapse

Never omit the space

Potajito@feddit.ch on 26 Nov 2023 16:53 next collapse

Another one for the endevour os team. Not looking to distro hop anytime soon.

worldofgeese@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 17:08 next collapse

I run Guix System on my personal laptop and Project Bluefin on my work machine.

Guix is even easier to get started with now thanks to the Guix Packager , a web UI for writing Guix package definitions.

Project Bluefin auto-updates thanks to its use of container images deliver system updates. It’s also just a great platform to get started writing containerized apps, since it ships with rootless Podman by default and you can easily add new developer tools using just commands.

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captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 26 Nov 2023 17:44 next collapse

I’m a Mint Cinnamon guy.

heygooberman@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 2023 17:47 next collapse

Linux Mint with a secondary partition running EndeavourOS

shertson@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 17:50 next collapse

Laptop and Workstation run Fedora. Servers run Proxmox.

Can’t say that there is anything new and exciting. Big change for me has been that I have accepted flatpacks. I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t care about being a purist, don’t care about customizing and theming everything. I just want to use my computer.

mhz@lemm.ee on 26 Nov 2023 18:21 next collapse

  • Laptop: Opensuse slowroll with Sway
  • Home PC: Arch with KDE
  • Home server: Debian 12 (headless)
WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Nov 2023 19:00 next collapse

Nobara because I am a beginner that uses his PC primaryly for gaming

joel_feila@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 19:11 next collapse

Neon is my daily driver. Planing on pop os after their new de

cosmicrose@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 2023 19:31 next collapse

I was using Fedora for about a year and it was great. Nice and stable, almost everything worked out of the box. Then I goofed up an update and had to install something new, and I chose Arch. Arch is working mostly fine, of course I had to learn a thing or two about how some subsystems worked but the Arch wiki is a wonderful resource. We’ll see how long this install lasts, it’s been smooth sailing for about a month now.

library_napper@monyet.cc on 26 Nov 2023 19:55 next collapse

Qubes OS

Secret300@sh.itjust.works on 26 Nov 2023 20:01 next collapse

Fedora. I’ve been looking into fedora silverblue and vanilla os as well but I’m chilling with regular fedora for now

bour@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 20:27 next collapse

Desktop: Arch KDE Laptop: MX Linux KDE

thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz on 26 Nov 2023 20:44 next collapse

I dual boot Qubes and Linux Mint (kinda two ends of a spectrum, I know).

settinmoon@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 21:15 next collapse

I daily drive Fedora because RHEL is what my industry uses and it’s good to stay on top of the technology.

0x2d@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 21:34 next collapse

kubuntu

kde connect wasn’t working on endeavouros with sway and i wanted something easy and debian based

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 22:05 next collapse

Debian 12 Stable with GNOME

After having used Ubuntu LTS for 6 years, I find a little more peace with Debian. I do not like systems that break. Debian Stable is IMPOSSIBLY HARD to break, even more than Ubuntu LTS, which only broke once because of my stupidity of installing ProtonVPN client and using VPN killswitch through it. Switched to using OpenVPN/Wireguard config files.

dan@upvote.au on 27 Nov 2023 22:06 collapse

Debian doesn’t break often because they don’t change things just for the sake of changing them. Nice and stable. Even if you do break something, a guide published 5 years ago describing how to solve the problem would probably still mostly work today.

fossisfun@lemmy.ml on 26 Nov 2023 22:10 next collapse

Until a couple of weeks ago I used Fedora Silverblue.

Then, after mostly using GNOME Shell for about a decade, I (reluctantly) tried KDE Plasma 5.27 on my desktop due to its support for variable refresh rate and since then I have fallen in love with KDE Plasma for the first time (retrospectively I couldn’t stand it from version 4 until around 5.20).

Now I am using Fedora 39 Kinoite on two of my three devices and Fedora 39 KDE on a 2-in-1 laptop that requires custom DKMS modules (not possible on atomic Fedora spins) for the speakers.

Personally I try to use containers (Flatpaks on the desktop and OCI images on my homeserver) whenever possible. I love that I can easily restrict or expand permissions (e. g. I have a global nosocket=x11 override) and that my documentation is valid with most distributions, since Flatpak always behaves the same.

I like using Fedora, since it isn’t a rolling release, but its software is still up-to-date and it has always (first version I used is Fedora 15) given me a clean, stable and relatively bug-free experience.

In my opinion Ubuntu actually has the perfect release cycle, but Canonical lost me with their flawed-by-design snap packages and their new installers with incredibly limited manual partitioning options (encryption without LVM, etc.).

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net on 27 Nov 2023 00:56 next collapse

Fedora immutable (ublue kinoite) has been so bulletproof. Moved from Arch, which is now on distrobox, so painless. Now ~ 1 year… 2 laptops + desktop, other is destined for NixOS…

WalrusByte@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 00:58 next collapse

Gentoo. Been using it for over 3 years now, and I haven’t found a reason to leave yet.

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WalrusByte@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 14:25 collapse

I just use the defaults for everything, haha! Just grub2 for the bootloader, openrc for the init system.

By “home” do you mean DE/WM? If so, I use dwm for my laptop and sway for my desktop.

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WalrusByte@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 16:53 collapse

I don’t even know what that stuff is, so I guess my answer is that I just don’t use it 🤷‍♂️

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WalrusByte@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 17:32 collapse

I don’t really care either way. I like things to be more minimal, but I’m not really anti-systemd or anything like that. I’ve just been using openrc for a few years now, and haven’t used systemd enough to learn about the homed stuff I guess

spider@lemmy.nz on 27 Nov 2023 02:43 next collapse

Q4OS, for five years

TechAdmin@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 03:29 next collapse

EndeavourOS on desktop and laptop side of things.

atmur@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 05:30 next collapse

I’ve been running Fedora for years. I tried out Arch and OpenSUSE a bit this year just to see if I was missing anything, and went right back to Fedora afterward.

Not as fussy as Arch and better package availability than SUSE (for my needs at least). Also dnf is my favorite package manager despite being relatively slow.

dramaticcat@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Nov 2023 06:18 next collapse

I will get hate from everyone over this, but I daily drive Manjaro because I can!

I know how to install Arch, I choose to use Manjaro.

WitchHazel@lemmygrad.ml on 27 Nov 2023 06:31 next collapse

I don’t hate you for it but I did the same thing until Manjaro broke itself

LeFantome@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 07:12 next collapse

I also used Manjaro and it broke on me multiple times. I did not realize how badly it was messing up the AUR until I switched. I use EndeavourOS now.

May I ask why you use Manjaro?

zxqwas@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 11:05 collapse

In my case it was because Ubuntu broke on me for whatever reason (and the threat of snap packages looming).

I did not feel like putting anymore effort into getting the computer back to working so I just switched to something not Ubuntuoid at semi random to anything that promised an easy installation.

A year later and it’s still working. I’ll notify you when it breaks so you can tell me “I told you so”.

Discover5164@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2023 11:11 collapse

me too, but i will switch to arch or nix soon. not because it broke, just to have a frash start. after 3+ years i have a shit load of stuff i don’t really need anymore

ytg@feddit.ch on 27 Nov 2023 07:27 next collapse

I’ve never tried NixOS, but it looks really promising.

I usually use Fedora or OpenSUSE, which have good software availability (unfortunately not as good as the AUR). Fedora provides selinux by default, and has profiles for basically everything. SUSE uses AppArmor, but Arch doesn’t provide convenient configuration for either, and only supports x86_64 (which is why I switched away from it).

wolre@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 10:34 next collapse

I’ve been using OpenSuse Slowroll basically since it released and so far am very happy with it.

Discover5164@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2023 11:14 next collapse

i’m on manjaro kde, will switch soon to nixos if i understand how it all works :)

otherwise arch

kylian0087@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 11:22 next collapse

Opensuse Tumbleweed. A rock solid rolling release.

blotz@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 11:56 next collapse

I’m surprised by how many people are rocking opensuse in this thread. What made you go with opensuse?

tron@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2023 15:35 collapse

I would say the benefit of OpenSUSE is that everything is preconfigured to work right out of the box, including btrfs snapshotting with snapper. Once you boot it’s time to download apps, and go. Very windows like for those who just want the system to work. Updates are one click.

kylian0087@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 17:38 collapse

In my case not at all. But that is by choice. I always start from a server install. For me i like rolling as i do not get major version updates. And with tumbleweed it is very solid at the same time. Snapper and btrfs are also great aditions.

space@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Nov 2023 15:43 next collapse

The only downside is that they don’t support zfs properly, and the package selection is more limited. The community repos aren’t always maintained.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 18:58 collapse

Until the kernel updates to something unsupported and you find out that they don’t keep old kernels in the rolling release. An amazing experience.

kylian0087@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 19:01 collapse

Never hat issues on my 10+ year old system. I did how ever with rocky linux 9.4. It is unsupported on my old dell r610s

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 19:21 collapse

I had it on two systems. Some peripherals stopped working after an update on one system and the attempt to downgrade it to the LTS (Leap?) failed miserably --> Ubuntu. On another one the graphics card stopped working and somehow forced it to the LTS with a custom kernel. That worked until trying to upgrade it by two minor releases (X.2 to X.4? Can’t remember if it was 13.Y 14.Y or 15.Y). There were so many conflicts and messing around with the source lists (or whatever they’re called)…

It was the most difficult system to update that I’ve ever had. YaST is great though. Best GUI for system configuration I’ve had so far.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 11:55 next collapse

Fedora Workstation. Couldn’t be happier.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 27 Nov 2023 15:28 collapse

Same, it’s a “it just works” distro.

noisypine@infosec.pub on 27 Nov 2023 13:34 next collapse

NixOS and Debian. Probably just NixOS in the near future.

uis@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 14:40 next collapse

Install Gentoo

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Never needed flatpack for last 5 years

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 18:57 collapse

Why not move to NixOS?

jcrabapple@infosec.pub on 27 Nov 2023 15:44 next collapse

Nobara on my gaming desktop, Fedora Kinoite on one laptop, Debian 12 on the other.

radioactiveradio@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2023 15:48 next collapse

Neon and Arch in a distrobox container. I’ve found the holy grail of Linux setups. Latest KDE and AUR on a stable ubuntu base.

Barbarian@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2023 15:54 next collapse

When it comes to distros, I am a boring man with a boring POV: I just want the thing to work with as little fuss as possible. Consequently, I’m on Kubuntu. KDE is rock solid, and Ubuntu is what I’m used to.

If/when my OS ever breaks down hard enough to reinstall, I’ll probably install Fedora Workstation.

blotz@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 16:30 next collapse

Oh god so many notifications. My inbox is flooded. I only expected like 20 replies Lol

KISSmyOS@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 17:08 collapse

You asked a distro question on linux@lemmy.ml .
This is to be expected.

8Bitz0@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Nov 2023 21:10 collapse

Not only that, you asked for their opinions.

dan@upvote.au on 27 Nov 2023 22:03 collapse

The only way they would have gotten more replies is if they had posted “I’m thinking of switching to Ubuntu. What do you think?”

Pat@kbin.run on 27 Nov 2023 17:01 next collapse

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It's been great having a rolling release distro that I don't have to worry about breaking with updates

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Nov 2023 17:07 next collapse

Debian testing. Seriously. That is reasonably easy to install and configure unlike Arch or Gentoo, but doesn’t come with “user friendly” corporate crap like Ubuntu and its derivatives.

pchem@feddit.de on 27 Nov 2023 17:19 next collapse

Despite the memes, Arch isn’t that hard to install nowadays. The Wiki is stellar and archinstall is a thing (as well as EndeavourOS).

But Debian testing is a fine choice as well, of course.

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 18:54 collapse

I tried arch once and Netflix and my printer didn’t work. Doesn’t it use some alternative c library or something?

pchem@feddit.de on 28 Nov 2023 12:05 collapse

No. Both CUPS and Netflix work perfectly fine for me on Arch.

You’re probably confusing it with Alpine.

ExLisper@linux.community on 28 Nov 2023 13:11 collapse

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m doing.

dan@upvote.au on 27 Nov 2023 22:02 collapse

I used Debian testing on my production servers for a long time. They say not to use it in production, but even as a “testing” release it’s still more stable than some other distros.

I use Debian stable on all my servers now, though (except for my home server which runs Unraid). I don’t have time to keep a rolling build up-to-date like I used to.

AutVincamAutPeriam@lemmy.zip on 27 Nov 2023 17:29 next collapse

I’ve been using Mint Cinnamon for a while now. It runs beautifully with fewer firmware issues than Ubuntu on my XPS. Even though it shipped with Ubuntu.

ultra@feddit.ro on 27 Nov 2023 17:53 next collapse

After using NixOS, I don’t think I could go back to a regular distro. At the very least, maybe debian with the nix package manager

GenesisJones@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 17:59 next collapse

A Chevy volt. Turns out gm figured out that a PHEV is a great idea 12 years ago

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca on 27 Nov 2023 18:06 collapse

What kinda rpms you getting on that

GenesisJones@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 18:13 next collapse

Not sure, just realized this is a computer post lol

If you want mpg it’s anywhere from 75 to 130mpg per tank of gas.

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca on 27 Nov 2023 21:32 collapse

Haha, welcome. rpm was just the first vaguely-car-sounding Linux term I could think of.

GenesisJones@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2023 01:33 collapse

What is rpms in Linux? I just lurk on /all so I see a ton of Linux stuff that I don’t understand haha

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca on 28 Nov 2023 02:01 collapse

RedHat Package Manager. It’s also the file extension for their packages, so you’ll see stuff like firefox_nightly.rpm

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 18:56 collapse

  1. It probably uses apks.
Shihab@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2023 18:05 next collapse

Fedora is what keep getting back to every time I get distro hopping fever. Either gnome or KDE It’s wonderful!

dontblink@feddit.it on 27 Nov 2023 18:16 next collapse

I like Debian with GNOME

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 18:50 next collapse

Debian with awesome at home. Fedora with cinnamon at work.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 18:55 collapse

awesome?

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 19:02 collapse

awesomewm.org

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 19:14 collapse

Damn… that looks like a lot of work. Did you write your own theme?

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 19:22 next collapse

Oh my, yes. The benefit is that one you figure it out it’s super easy to create widgets. I wrote from 0 or adapted my own widgets for apt, Spotify, notes, timer, weather alerts… Basic plugins (like system monitor, battery, volume) you can just find online but when you need something custom is real easy. For example I wanted something to alert me when my pihole is down. 30 minutes of scripting and it’s in my tray.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 19:26 collapse

Intruiging 🤔 There are something things like that which I’ve wanted to write for years!

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 19:54 collapse

Give it a try. Lua is easy and the api has good documentation. There’s plenty of good widgets to use as examples. And if you have any questions just ask.

ExLisper@linux.community on 27 Nov 2023 19:51 collapse

I’ve based my theme on sometimes I found but yes, I heavily adapted it. Theming is simple, awesome is flexible but not very pretty. It’s more about usbility. Easily define rules for specific windows, powerful keybindings and so one. For example my config defects if I’m using external monitor or not and changes the widgets accordingly. It’s just one if in the config. I don’t think it’s possible at all in gnome.

crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz on 27 Nov 2023 19:29 next collapse

The answer’s always Debian. I use guix for packages, though it doesn’t have as much stuff on it as nix.

Holzkohlen@feddit.de on 27 Nov 2023 19:37 next collapse

Garuda Linux. In just love arch, but I’m too lazy to do it myself. One day maybe

Astaroth@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2023 21:48 next collapse

Arch Linux with i3wm

Fish, Alacritty, Rofi (dmenu replacement)

MXX53@programming.dev on 27 Nov 2023 22:07 next collapse

Had been on pop for a while. But lately gnome shell was using a ton of ram and performance was trash, so I moved to fedora with KDE. Been great so far.

Crozekiel@lemmy.zip on 27 Nov 2023 22:39 next collapse

Garuda on my gaming desktop, fedora bazzite on my gaming laptop. Loving both to be honest.

NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml on 27 Nov 2023 22:54 next collapse

Zorin OS for now. Old kernel and stuff, but it’s stable, and I like the looks more than I did PopOS!. Maybe PopOS! is cooler now with their Cosmic thingy.

Salix@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2023 01:26 next collapse

For my main computers, I’ve moved them all to Arch from Manjaro & EndeavorOS within the past 4 years. Though been meaning to try OpenSUSE Tumbleweed eventually. Haven’t used OpenSUSE in over 10 years.

I have a laptop running Proxmox for my servers, which is debian-based but uses a modified Ubuntu LTS kernel. Great to use to try out other distros in VMs as well.

wolre@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2023 02:13 next collapse

I’ve been using OpenSuse Slowroll basically since it was released and have so far been very happy with it.

steeznson@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2023 12:17 next collapse

Gentoo desktop but I have to use it over SSH a lot of the time since I’m stuck on my work macbook

sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Nov 2023 12:28 next collapse

Debian Testing and Arch with KDE on the PC/Workstation.

Debian Stable on the server.

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 28 Nov 2023 16:25 next collapse

Currently driving Fedora 39

M500@lemmy.ml on 29 Nov 2023 08:37 next collapse

Accidentally wipes out Mint last week, but have been meaning to try out Fedora 39 Plasma. So far, I love it. I have been really busy recently, but it has been a great system so far. My SteamDeck really made me fall in love with Plasma.

fxt_ryknow@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2023 22:14 next collapse

I’m rocking two dailys right now. Tumbleweed and Nixos. I jabe tumbleweed on my work laptop as well as one laptop at home. Rock solid go to that I trust for all the things. I started using nix on a number of other machines at home a few months back, and I’m really really enjoying it!!

infinitevalence@discuss.online on 27 Nov 2023 01:09 collapse

Manjaro KDE