How bad with Linux MSI is nowadays?
from qyron@sopuli.xyz to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Aug 20:20
https://sopuli.xyz/post/31733261

Browsing for some hardware to assemble a new system, nn AMD MSI motherboard caught my attention.

Checking the motherboard compatibility list got me really miffed, as updating BIOS is apparently impossible if not on Window$ and all supported CPUs with integrated graphics require later updates.

MSI was the first brand where I ran Linux, on a Megabook. It installed smoothly, ran flawlessly and even improved battery life and hardware output above what the competition achieved.

Looks like those times are past.

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HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works on 08 Aug 20:33 next collapse

I’m running msi on a couple systems with no issues.

themoken@startrek.website on 08 Aug 20:36 next collapse

I don’t have experience with MSI recently, but I’d be really surprised if you couldn’t flash a new BIOS off the system partition or FAT32 USB. You may not be able to update from Linux directly, but almost all motherboards I’ve seen support doing it from the BIOS interface.

First_Thunder@lemmy.zip on 08 Aug 20:42 collapse

Yep, got an MSI motherboard, that’s how I’m doing it

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de on 08 Aug 20:38 next collapse

Check the user manual. See if it supports loading a BIOS image from a flash drive.

Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 08 Aug 21:05 next collapse

I think that you may be able to update from BIOS (maybe with only power, no CPU no ram) and maybe check fwupd

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 21:11 next collapse

MSI is one of the most compatible you’ll find. They make server components as well.

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 09 Aug 09:10 collapse

I’m going to check a bit further. I would like to have a MSI based system. My (most probably) next monitor will be an MSI curved.

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 09 Aug 11:54 collapse

I build with MSI stuff all the time. If you’re concerned about BIOS utilities, all of their boards update directly from withing the BIOS utilities AFAIK. Haven’t come across a board in years that doesn’t.

Even if you do, it’s quite easy to build a Live Windows USB disk to run utilities that doesn’t require a license. That shouldn’t be a barrier to entry for you for anything if you’re looking to run Linux.

BombOmOm@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 21:38 next collapse

Which motherboard do you have? There is almost always a way to load from a flash drive via the BIOS. Many motherboards even have a way to do it from a flashdrive without the UI working at all via a button on the back (BIOS Flashback).

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 09 Aug 09:01 collapse

Currently, I’m running a Gigabyte AB350M-DASH and I was able to load several BIOS updates directly by USB. However, from a version onwards it requires loading from the OS.

I thought it was just an isolated case but it seem to be a more common situation.

BombOmOm@lemmy.world on 09 Aug 14:06 collapse

I had a look at the support page for the mobo, and there is a BIOS update from Mar 11th. It contains a zip with a .F52q file inside. You should be able to use that file directly from a USB in the BIOS.

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Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me on 08 Aug 22:14 next collapse

I don’t think I’ve ever updated a BIOS from any operating system, always flashed via the BIOS itself. Most can flash the BIOS without even a CPU installed these days.

It’s a good idea to validate the information before being outraged at it.

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 09 Aug 09:04 collapse

I have a motherboard that reaches a version that requires OS loading. It has an .exe file. No files directly loadable at BIOS level but I always assumed it an oddity.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Aug 12:48 next collapse

I’ve seen this before with laptops, but never with desktop motherboards.

No technical reason they couldn’t release flashable files, so see if someone has extracted and posted them online, or support a better vendor

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Sina@beehaw.org on 09 Aug 05:22 next collapse

worst case you can install w10 once now and years from now you can just run a Windows live usb if needed

I don’t like MSI as a manufacturer, but compatibility is not a real concern if not muleheaded about it.

XenoK@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Aug 12:28 next collapse

I have an MSI laptop and MSI motherboard in a PC. Didn’t have any specific compatibility issues, and I’m running Linux on both. You can update the BIOS with an usb stick straight from the BIOS. There’s not really anything that 100% requires Windows.

fhein@lemmy.world on 09 Aug 15:06 collapse

I’ve got a MSI MAG Tomahawk wifi which has had a lot of issues, but nothing related to Linux