Linux cannot be installed from DVD's anymore?
from yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk to linux@lemmy.ml on 05 May 19:20
https://feddit.uk/post/28726078

I burned and tried different distros and all of them the DVD reader laser was moving back and forth like mad and loading and install was so slow that it impossible to continue. Tried 2 different readers.

Fedora Silverblue: the optic reel was moving like mad and loading was so slow that it triggered the anaconda text installer

It stayed there for hours so I desisted

Elementary OS 8: Same as Fedora Silverblue but at least could load the wallpaper installer UI. Not possible to load live OS

Lakka OS: Lakka state on their site DVD’s can’ t be used anymore for their images www.lakka.tv/get/linux/generic/

Yeah I know USB thumb drives are like £5 but I wanted to have my silly little fun with my discs and newly bought burner. I remember when I started using linux distros didn’t had this kind of problem and live versions could be used, slow but usable.

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terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 May 19:24 next collapse

Ya sure the optical drive is still good?

yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk on 05 May 19:29 collapse

Got an old laptop with bluray drive and a newly bought USB bluray burner, both same issue

terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 May 22:49 collapse

Idk. Maybe a bit more detail about the process? Try redownloading the iso’s? What software are you using to burn? Tried any bios changes, like with UEFI, secure boot or csm legacy stuff?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 05 May 19:30 next collapse

Did you verify the media after burning?

nyan@sh.itjust.works on 06 May 14:00 next collapse

Wild idea: check the condition of the SDD (presumably) that you’re trying to install to. After all, an installation has two endpoints, and if the target disc is on its last legs and throwing SMART errors, it ain’t gonna be too happy getting written to.

Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world on 07 May 06:42 collapse

SSD is a bit optimistic for that laptop, quick Google shows a potential 5400rpm sata drive

Auli@lemmy.ca on 07 May 11:52 next collapse

I think they’re wrong I’ve installed from iso files many times and they are just images of the disks.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 07 May 12:11 next collapse

If you can open the installer I think it’s not an ISO problem but a problem with the file written on the DVD. Maybe it got corrupted?

ikidd@lemmy.world on 07 May 13:19 next collapse

Debian will probably install from stone tablets if you find the right ISO.

LeFantome@programming.dev on 07 May 16:59 next collapse

Hardware issue?

I cannot speak for “all distros” but I know from experience that this statement is not true. There are also numerous “retro” YouTube channels where you can watch people burn DVDs to install Linux on older hardware. I have seen at least one of those in the past month.

Finally, the ISO file format is the native format of optical media like DVD. When you use an ISO to create a USB stick, you are starting with a DVD image (typically). If it is a valid ISO, you can burn it to a DVD and go.

In terms of “slow”, is it possible that expectations have simply changed and we have forgotten how slow things were back in the day. DVD throughput that is working fine is going to feel slow to us today. Just like we are no longer super impressed that we can store 4.7 GB on a disc.

LiveLM@lemmy.zip on 08 May 02:15 next collapse

Try burning your DVDs at the slowest speed possible.
When I still used optical media, software things simply would not work if burned fast.
I’d set 1x on my burning software. I think my writer was new enough that it’d only go down to 4x but it worked fine.

yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk on 09 May 12:31 next collapse

Thank you all for your input @LeFantome@programming.dev @LiveLM@lemmy.zip @terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com @Auli@lemmy.ca

Laptop got a SSD and SMART OK

So I burned at the lowest speed Fedora Vauxite and Rescuezilla and they worked fine. Burned Fedora Silverblue many times testing at the lowest speed, other burning app, other DVD burner and same problem. So it could be the ISO but why?

  1. Fedora Silverblue and eOS were downloaded from their site torrent
  2. Checked ISO integrity and OK
  3. Enabled to check integrity on K3B after burning
  4. I have flashed those same ISOs to USB thumb drives and install fine

Gotta do further testing but I have to buy a DVDRW to stop wasting so many DVD’s and prolly consult with the Fedora forum

The Anaconda installer suggests workarounds, gotta test them later <img alt="" src="https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/080d152f-9034-4cf2-bd1c-1dde1e17ecfd.webp">

terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 May 14:52 collapse

Id get fresh iso’s. And also try at other speeds. Long ago I can remember… oddities…with slower burns.

spv@lemmy.spv.sh on 11 May 04:42 collapse

i’d assume this might be a drive issue rather than a distro / linux issue. iirc i installed debian from CD a few months back on a thinkpad because i was bored… hah, parties. you’re funny. undervolting thinkpads while procrastinating finals. that’s my kind of shit.