from TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 24 Apr 02:04
https://lemmy.world/post/28631644
I tried running a 2nd instance of Roblox simultaneously on macos 15 with another account but this shows up, if my mac can handle it then why can’t it just let me do it? If I have two copies of an app like Roblox in separate User/Applications folders, macos moves them to the /Applications/ folder.
Sometimes it won’t run apps claiming to be corrupted, so I then have to do sudo xattr -cr /Applications/someapp.app in the terminal and they run perfectly fine. It always nags me if I download apps from anywhere but mac app store. Some of these messages can only be gotten rid of by disabling system integrity protection, but then macos blocks you from running MAS apps due to having “permissive security”.
I don’t daily drive macOS anymore, I switched to Linux on my M1 mac where I can do whatever the hell I want.
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OP said it was Mac OS 15.
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NGL I think whatever you’re trying to do is either a limitation of the Roblox install or something else that isn’t specifically an OS X issue. The file permission stuff sounds weird and I’d reevaluate what you’re trying to do and if the approach is correct, especially if you’re going to have to turn off operating system security features to get it to work.
github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/issues/2786#issue… for a real world example of needing an exception.
Can you play Roblox? I thought they blocked it on Linux.
Sober lets you play Roblox on Linux
Why would they do that?
All the 8 year old hackers running linux were toppling their child labor industry
I am more suprised that they manages to use linux to cheat.
They created a new anticheat for the PC version which broke Linux support
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Has that broken sober too?
The newest one broke sober for a while but it works now.
Sober was made in response to it.
AHH right that’s great.
My understanding is that Roblox requires changes to the kernel to lock it down in order to prevent script kiddies from cheating. Linux makes that very difficult to impossible, so they abandoned/never supported the platform.
Jeez. Sounds like Roblox is horribly designed if the only way they can secure their servers is through client side measures.
Sounds like pretty much every multiplayer game with Anti-Cheat is horribly designed in that case…
Anti-Cheat software seems to be the last hurdle preventing widespread compatibility with Linux. Even when there is a linux version of an anti-cheat (BattleEye has a Linux version I believe) companies don’t use that and still restrict their game to windows. Looking at you ubisoft and rainbow six siege
I believe Linux versions of ACs are easier to bypass
That isn’t a Mac error message. It’s Roblox giving you that error.
Mac OS sucks but this is a Roblox problem not a Mac OS problem. Btw they recently blocked linux on Roblox so good luck playing that.
I’m curious about your experience with a M1 Mac on Linux. Are you using Asahi Linux then?
I to want answers, I thought m1 had security limits to install Linux or any other os.
It’s obfuscated but not officially blocked. Their site is asahilinux.org. It’s not worth getting a macbook for yet imo , but it’s still super impressive, especially the graphics drivers. There are issues with Mac’s built in security stuff but that just means the fingerprint reader and probably some other stuff doesn’t work.
Interesting, thanks
Windows will not allow me to attach a file to an email because it is opened in Word 🤷
Word issue, not windows issue 🤔
I love when I try to open a file and macOS tells me I can’t because can’t tell if it’s safe. There’s literally no way to open it from here.
You have to hit ok, then go so settings, scroll down to security, and hit a button to specify yes I actually want to open this file. It then reprompts you again but now with an open anyway button.
I love my MacBook’s hardware and battery life, but MacOS is such a letdown.
Try right clicking on the file and selecting Open from the menu
this works in 95% of cases, try this before you go all the way into settings! most annoying part of mac is this stuff
You used to be able to hold alt and right click and choose open.
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine path/to/filewill remove that shit.Though personally, I get as much software as possible on my work MacBook through Nix, and only use
.dmgfiles if absolutely required.Old, but still relevant:
<img alt="Windows/Linux KILL comparison" src="https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aYe4jpm_700bwp_v2.webp">
Nope this is untrue
Please do elaborate
There are many different signals the OS sends to applications which are kinda like “Can you kill yourself?” or “Please kill yourself” or “I will kill you” to close it. In computer teminology, there is “close”, “terminate” and “kill” types of signals. These are used so that applications can have time to perform closing tasks (like saving) when neceassary and if they misbehave, just “kill” it.
Now both windows and linux have these types of signals. In fact every OS has it.
I beleive this is the reason this meme exists:
When the user tries to shut a app in windows (throught close button or task manager) windows will wait and not give any option to immediately kill the app. Hence some apps don’t close even after using end task. Only if the app freezes for some time will it give the option for force quit,
no other way(edit: it exists). In linux, its the same as windows and limux waits for app to close. But the difference is that option to kill is available anytime in linux and basically gives the user full control. Although kill option in linux may be hidden as a way for users not to use it unless necassary as applications may not like it.Shutdown process of both OS is same, they wait for all apps to shut by semding “please close” signal and if they misbehave, option to “shutdown anyways” will be shown to the user, basically killing all apps.
The meme is not correct and is just a steorotype of different OSes. This steorotype comes from how people normally experinece different OS culture and practices. Both OSes have same process of managing apps. Both OSes will wait for process to close if it freezes and give option to user to force quit.
SIGKILL in the meme is coreect only for the right panel of the meme and the left panel is actually a SIGTERM (or something else which means “please close”, don’t remember)
The only thing the meme should emphasis is how the user is given full control to do in linux (even deleting the kernel) while windows is careful to not let users do something stupid.
Edit: Killing apps in windows can be done on demand through cmd using
taskkillcommandtaskkill /im filename.exe /f
Or if you have multiple instances of the same executable running, you can kill by PID
I meant through a graphical user interface. Was saying in view of an average user.
Although it’s true that I wasn’t aware of this commands existance when writing
NGL that smiley face from Finder looks so condescending lmao. My wife’s laptop is a Mac and it’s hilarious every time how it shows up so often. Like Clippy from Word lol.
You shouldn’t play Roblox.
Honestly, instead of playing shitty clones of games made with child labor through roblox, just play the original games they’re cloning.
Couple of weeks ago I was at a friends place for dinner and the son was playing Roblox. Everyone in the room except him knew he was playing a WoW clone. His dad even told him, “you know I’ll buy you a subscription if you wanna play the real game instead of a shitty clone”
Don’t play Roblox. Its just cheap imitations made with child labor.
I guess underaged people can’t earn money because it will be child labour… 🤦
Roblox isn’t only about “shitty clones”. Just let people play whatever they want. Just let passionate underaged devs gain money instead of companies.
At minimum, the Roblox company is taking advantage of children by:
They’re taking advantage of everyone with their shitty “dev exchange rates” thing, but it’s known info at this point.
Sadly yea, that’s bad behavior, but I fail to see how it’s specifically taking advantage of children.
You don’t know how the known behavior that takes advantage of everyone, in a game popular with and marketed towards children, is taking advantage of children?
Most devs must be above 13-15yo, before you’re not really supposed to have a bank account
Also, it’s a bit light to say that they’re stricly saying taking advantage of people because only because of their fees.
If I have to think of a game that really takes advantage of children, I would say Counter-Strike. Fuck Valve 👀
I’m honestly not sure what you’re trying to say. I didn’t say the transfer fees were the only way they were taking advantage of people, I just wanted to use the thing you already admitted was predatory and use it to give an example of how roblox is taking advantage of children.
Yea sure I understand, but I just think that saying “taking advantage of children” implies something way more evil in my head than just having something predatory for everyone. Like something being waaaaay more evil when done on children, an so I don’t really agree that we could say this example is enough to state that roblox takes advantage of children
there’s no way a roblox kid is claiming to “daily drive” anything lol
Hi, 28 here, Roblox came out when I was in middle school, therefore this could be a whole ass Roblox adult, not a Roblox kid.
Get off my laaawn
Who are you and what have you done with my grandson?
Surpsingly a lot of adults play Roblox. I dislike the game but I was asked multiple times by my older peers to play Roblox.
Ask? Nah! Grab a bat! This is your computer! Find the fucker and fuck’em up! Give him a taste of hi…oh dude! Not the eye balls! C’mon that’s too muc…that’s a knife! What are you doing! Oh shit! No! C’mon! Not the ball. Oh the entire thing!!! Oh put it in a ziplo…no! Not there! Oh my Jimmy Johnson! My holy jebus! I’m outta here! I don’t know you! Don’t call me!
But but… User dumb!
I have to daily drive a Mac for work, and it’s a constant pain. Fortunately, there are signs that the PC world is catching up with Apple hardware, most recently in the form of the Qualcomm Snapdragon X1 series CPUs. The Linux support isn’t there yet, but it’s likely just a matter of time before we too can enjoy excellent battery life and great performance.