Yet another community about Mod Abuses and Power Trips
from ipitco@lemmybefree.net to newcommunities@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 14:30
https://lemmybefree.net/post/143416

!modabuse_powertrip@lemmybefree.net (new instance, I hope it’ll stay faithful to what it states)

Made this community after a few disagreements with the mod/admin policies on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org seems mostly trolls

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rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 11 Jul 14:50 next collapse

What disagreements?

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 15:05 next collapse

  • Not wanting people to downvote what they don’t agree with
  • Easily consider things as brigading and vote manipulation
  • Easy censorship on specific subjects (including anti AI even though anti AI people are annoying from time to time)
  • Fear of not being able to criticize db0’s administration
spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 15:09 collapse

Also one of the YPTB mods is in a group with like 3 others who all:

Flood user modlogs with unfounded accusations of vote manipulation and trolling.

Think that people browsing All should know the size and history of every community before downvoting a single post. Also don’t understand what lurkers are and assume intent.

Take downvoting very personally.

Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jul 16:54 collapse

Also one of the YPTB mods is in a group with like 3 others who all

Who’s that ?

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:06 collapse

Off the top of my head.

unruffled at dbzero hypes up the conspiracy that everyone who gets banned for vote manipulation/whatever deserves it. I think they posted something about the brigade menace and treat a handful of down votes on something as the end of the world.

cryptagion at dbzero does mass bans for one or a few down votes

mystic mushroom at dbzero does mass bans for one or a few down votes

Also jet at hackertalks does mass bans for one or a few down votes

Think there was one other too but can’t remember their name. The complaint is that they don’t understand what lurkers are (vote but don’t comment) or that people might browse all and not care about AI but down vote something because it is awful. Then they make ridiculous accusations and accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being a troll.

If they just banned down votes and banned anyone who down voted with the reason ‘down votes not allowed’ then they would not be getting the widespread negative reaction that they are getting by accusing people of brigading or vote manipulation or ‘anti-ai harassment’ and all their other stupid and insulting made up ban reasons.

Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jul 17:12 next collapse

Out of all those people, isn’t @unruffled@lemmy.dbzer0.com the only mod of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ?

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:17 collapse

Yes, unruffed is the one YPTB mod who is cahoots with the other three mods (of other communities) that are all doing the mass bannings, and even using each other’s moderation as an excuse for more bans.

Example of mass banning (multiple communities, many users in a short time span) <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3ddb45e3-fa66-4ffd-ab4c-2b9b6f8507ff.png">

Note I am perfectly fine with the last one for no down voting allowed for that community. It is stupid and rules don’t show in the main feed, but no down voting is in the rules and they were banned without being accused of more than what they did.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 03:27 collapse

being anti-AI is not allowed per the rules of those communities. as for the other user, that user is literally a sockpuppet account with zero comments or posts that is used strictly to downvote. I petitioned today for them to instance banned.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:30 collapse

Fuck off. I’ve never seen anyone more butt hurt about single down votes on lemmy.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:35 next collapse

there’s certainly somebody butthurt here.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:39 collapse

Yes, your butt certainly hurts.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:43 collapse

Bruised ego again?
Not all hits need a soapbox.
Grow up. Shake it off.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:45 collapse

You are just mad that nobody loves you.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:47 next collapse

Mirror holds your gaze—
fill your cup before you pour.
Love begins with you.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:51 collapse

I have a 20 year marriage to my wife, a teenager, and a dog and all happy to see me.

How you doin’?

Edit: Oh, and I’ve been playing games and chatting with five friends for the last four hours. Played Helldivers 2 with two of em, Call of Duty with two others, and have posted here in between matches. Even touched grass earlier today!

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:55 collapse

One who brags about
his life feels it doesn’t speak
for itself at all
[deleted] on 12 Jul 05:24 next collapse

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_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 05:34 collapse

Charming filth you speak—
like roses grown in gutters,
I wince, then applaud.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 05:43 collapse

Sad little man child

Can’t even hold back their rage

Tries so hard but fails

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 05:48 next collapse

Five-seven-five, huh? Math too hard for your soft brain? Try again, word clown.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 05:57 collapse

it is hilarious that you throw a tantrum about people downvoting your small communities, and the moment a community exists thst you don’t like you spend so much time filling it with shit posts because you don’t like being criticized. What a hypocrite.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 06:03 collapse

Seventeen dumb clicks— truth bombs wrapped in ancient form. Peak shitpost achieved.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:53 collapse

You’re doing the same currently…

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:52 collapse

I actually like this one

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:50 collapse

Hey, let’s not go this route

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Jul 01:43 collapse

You’re the one whining about it, clearly it effects your psyche a lot more than anyone else.

I just don’t go to communities I don’t like. Even easier than downvoting things en masse.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 03:25 next collapse

cryptagion at dbzero does mass bans for one or a few down votes

downvoting is against the rules of those communities. if you don’t read the rules before interacting with a comm, that isn’t my problem. why not make a post in YPTB?

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:31 next collapse

People can’t see the community rules when browsing All you fucking donkey.

Also, down voting is NOT against the rules unless they were changed recently recently.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:34 collapse

downvoting has been against the rules from the start. and again, it’s not my problem if you didn’t read the rules. you were banned according to them. if you don’t like it, that’s really tough.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:47 collapse

Downvoting being forbidden is dumb and unfair

That would be actual vote manipulation by mods

[deleted] on 12 Jul 06:34 next collapse

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_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 12:22 collapse

a pro-AI crusade, you say? yes, I like that. we must purge all of dbzero of the antis and build our kingdom of AI heaven!

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 15:29 collapse

Calls for genocide. Exactly what I would expect from a Nazi bootlicker.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 15:31 collapse

not being able to access dbzer0 would be genocide? are you a satire account?

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 15:32 collapse

Don’t forget that Jet spreads misinformation about meat based diets and sudo health science in multiple communities that they moderate.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 15:43 collapse

Yeah, he was the reason I dug in my heels against the stupid ‘if you don’t like it then ignore it’ bullshit which is fine for music and sports but down voting misinformation is one of the main purposes of the down vote!

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 15:51 collapse

Exactly!

Some of the shit getting posted deserves to be downvoted. It’s a feature here for visibility purposes. Pretending it doesn’t exist and banning people that use is just so asinine.

Don’t want downvotes? Go to YouTube and get coddled by the corpos.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 15:59 collapse

Yeah, but one time there was an actual user who did use bots to mass downvote with obviously randomly named bots so that means any time something gets down votes it is brigading and vote manipulation!

Small AI communities nobody wants getting four down votes is comparable to LGBTQ+ communities getting dozens or hundreds of downvotes from actual brigading!

If you don’t like it ignore it, and also I’m going to follow anyone who doesn’t like my slop around and harass them!

Did I forget anything?

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 16:09 collapse

Yeah I block communities I have no interest in participating with.

People also need to remember it’s just a number. Magical internet points as they say.

LGBTQ+ should be protected because they are actively being targeted for death threats and persecution. I wouldn’t equate that to some Ai posts getting a few downvotes because the general consensus of Ai is it outputs Slop.

Using bots to downvote is absolutely pathetic but you can’t be online expecting literally every person to agree with you or let alone read every community’s rules before scrolling and voting.

drkt@scribe.disroot.org on 11 Jul 15:06 collapse

I would assume this scribe.disroot.org/post/3486289/5751938

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 15:22 next collapse

In part as well. There are many things that have built up over time, this whole post made me realize I had enough

[deleted] on 12 Jul 01:59 collapse

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jjmoldy@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:11 collapse

the only way to get into whatever version of heaven you believe in is to kill as many nazis and zionists as you can. fuck ICE, fuck trump, and fuck the liberals that put him into power. proud member of the db0 grassroots left wing qanon Russian troll farm sent to divide you all.

Guy acts tough and badass, is actually a lifeless moron with skin thinner than paper. Tale as old as the web.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 23:03 next collapse

Where did you find this?

jjmoldy@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 02:00 collapse

It’s the bio for cryptagion’s profile.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 03:08 next collapse

I’m not the mod. He was temp banned by somebody else, for being a dick and excusing slurs against neurodivergent people. I just called it before it happened because I’ve seen plenty of other ableist dicks get banned for it.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 04:01 collapse

Yea, like… me for saying the ban was stupid?

This is getting ridiculous now

Good thing I made the community heh

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:06 collapse

you said a temp ban for ableist slurs on an instance run by neurodivergents was “fucking stupid”, when the OP refused to edit their post to remove the slurs. what did you think was gonna happen? you got a temp ban yourself, it’s hardly the end of the world.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 04:16 collapse

when the OP refused to edit their post to remove the slurs

They claim they haven’t received the opportunity to

what did you think was gonna happen?

A discussion to get their logic and side of the story?

Nah, banning is better. This way people will learn and change for sure, definitely won’t grow to hate db0 more and more…

There wasn’t even any slur, like come on, at least try making valid reasons. Anyone with a little good faith can understand what was meant by the message and that it wasn’t made to make fun of mental disorders

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:22 collapse

Nah, banning is better. This way people will learn and change for sure, definitely won’t grow to hate db0 more and more…

if people hate us because they can’t act like that on our instance without getting a ban, then that’s really their problem, not ours. nobody needs to be federated with us if they think we’re too sensitive or woke. that’s the beauty of fedi, if you don’t like our space, you can go make your own. like you did.

but don’t expect us to cater to your whims. you don’t pay the bills to keep our instance running. you don’t even live there. you don’t get a say in how we curate our instance.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 07:51 collapse

Turned out from “we’re right” to “if you don’t like it, leave”

I have switched instances over some time and frankly I kind of have enough of it. At some point I’m thinking about making my own instance because I have enough of it all. We will see

but don’t expect us to cater to your whims. you don’t pay the bills to keep our instance running. you don’t even live there. you don’t get a say in how we curate our instance.

Being open to discussion shouldn’t be a luxury

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 12:16 collapse

Turned out from “we’re right” to “if you don’t like it, leave”

No, it was always we’re right AND you can leave if you don’t like it.

Being open to discussion shouldn’t be a luxury

We’re not liberals, we’re not willing to compromise on our morality just to keep you around.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 13:38 collapse

anarchism but let’s not have democracy and be open to discussion, huray

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 13:42 collapse

anarchism is not democracy, the two are not compatible.

theanarchistlibrary.org/…/ziq-do-anarchists-suppo…

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 14:00 collapse

obviously not meant as a government but as a group

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 14:33 collapse

it’s the same thing. anarchism doesn’t need or want democracy, and the very idea of “the rule of the people” goes against our objection to being ruled at all.

besides, you’re not even a part of our instance, why would your vote on anything matter? and why do you think our very large base of neurodivergent members would be sympathetic to your beliefs?

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 14:58 collapse

our very large base of neurodivergent members

source on this?

and I don’t want to be accepted, just to discuss, but I see there’s no point in that

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 15:13 collapse

source on this?

all of our admins are neurodivergent, and most of our mods. the instance is also advertised as being tailored towards neurodivergent people. If you want a source, talk to the members. Drop by the ADHD comm or hop on Matrix, we’re very active on our channels.

and I don’t want to be accepted, just to discuss, but I see there’s no point in that

no, absolutely not. we’re not interested in discussing our policy against bigotry. if you try, you’ll probably just get blocked by our members until a mod or admin comes around and cleans up your comments. the great thing about fedi is that nobody is forced to associate with anyone else. we all have the freedom to just cut problematic people out of our circles and move on. and the best part? that person we disassociated with is free to move on and start their own groups, with whatever agenda they want.

that’s true freedom.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:11 collapse

It’s funny that the person, who is really upset about a poorly chosen word and someone getting offended by it, defends Luigi Mangione, a killer

You really see the contrast. Cherry pick your defending cause and axis. A bit incoherent

Deceptichum@quokk.au on 12 Jul 12:29 collapse

Wait you don't defend Luigi? What piece of shit are you.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 13:33 collapse

Yea you’re right, defending someone who murdered a rich guy. How brave

you’re the piece of shit if you believe everyone should support his action

Deceptichum@quokk.au on 12 Jul 13:38 collapse

A rich guy responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths through policy and leadership.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 13:40 collapse

that’s basically the entire economy in a nutshell

Not a lot of people would stay alive

Deceptichum@quokk.au on 12 Jul 13:44 collapse

Oh yeah because everyone is upper management and responsible for the direction the company goes.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 14:01 collapse

you’ll also learn that you either play the capitalist game, or you lose

There’s an infinite amount of people that could take their place

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 02:54 collapse

that hurts my heart. good to know I live rent free in your heads tho.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 17:52 next collapse

what were the disagreements about?

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 17:56 next collapse

There’s another comment that asked the same thing with replies in it. See lemmings.world/comment/16797777

merde@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 18:22 collapse

!nostupidquestions@lemmy.world is a heaven for trolls who have nothing to contribute but their opinions. There’s nothing to learn there :/

i couldn’t see what you’re referring to, though

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 18:32 next collapse

What are you talking about? I never said anything about this community

merde@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 18:45 collapse

There’s another comment that asked the same thing with replies in it. See lemmings.world/comment/16797777

strangely, from your link jerboa opens this post ☞
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/92f9d030-8fb7-4092-8aaf-94ab598741fb.jpeg">

opening it in browser helped. You should probably post these on your new community?

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 18:46 next collapse

it might convert incorrectly the lemmings.world link’s comment ID to your instance’s ID (sh.itjust.works/comment/16797777) which isn’t correct because comment and post IDs don’t match between 2 instances

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:08 collapse

I’m used to posting links from the author’s instance, I don’t think it should change anything

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 05:32 collapse

Horse shit, there’s a few regular commentors that do their best with every question they can, and even more that contribute irregularly but in good faith, even if they fall short of accuracy.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 03:10 collapse

he defended ableist slurs against neurodivergent people and called the mod “fucking stupid”.

atticus88th@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 03:56 next collapse

I must be really old because the only words I understood from that sentence was slurs and fucking stupid.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 04:00 collapse

neurodivergent are people who have atypical brains. like those with adhd, autism, etc. several of the admins of dbzero are neurodivergent, and many of the mods are as well, so they obviously don’t appreciate slurs against people like them.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 08:05 collapse

The word slurs is false

The user clearly didn’t meant to insult or slur at people having schizophrenia

Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 22:03 collapse

So if I were to call someone a “fag” that’s not a slur against gay people? In exactly the same way “Schizo” is a slur against folks with schizophrenia. It’s not rocket science. You are using their disorder as an example of something that’s wrong/bad. How do you think that makes folks with schizophrenia feel? You freeze peach idiots are only interested in yourselves.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 24 Jul 23:04 next collapse

Schizo is short for schizophrenia

Fag is short for faggot, which is already homophobic

You’re really going to compare this to “faggot” and, to an extent, “nigger”? These words are obviously meant to discriminate those people, when I’ve never seen “schizo” be used to discriminate people having this mental disorder

You are using their disorder as an example of something that’s wrong/bad

Well it is bad… I believe nobody wants to have schizophrenia, just like dementia and Alzheimer’s, yet I believe you’re fine with people saying those words when you have bad memory, unless you believe that’s a slur as well? I don’t believe it was ever meant to discriminate those people, or to say that they are inferior in any way.

You freeze peach idiots are only interested in yourselves.

Bold assumption to make, when you’re making a tantrum about a specific subject. No, we’re not. And if I’m wrong, then I’ll admit it. Banning straight up for 7 days (iirc) is not the way to go to educate people. You assume bad intentions which can only end up wrong.

I do agree that using the word like that is inaccurate and might be a bit offensive, but claiming someone is ableist because of this is far fetched

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 25 Jul 01:01 collapse

By the way, banning me from your community will not make you be right magically

That’s really childish

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 24 Jul 23:09 collapse

2 upvotes on a 1h old comment from an old thread? You brought your alt accounts to boost your upvotes?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 11 Jul 18:35 next collapse

Can't keep up with the all the fedi drama lol

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 11 Jul 19:07 collapse

fedi drama is the best

transebding_the_binary@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Jul 06:43 collapse

looking through this persons comment history just shows that they’re probably just a right-wing troll. And the descriptions in the community of it being a “free-speach” community just confirms that.

ipitco@lemmybefree.net on 12 Jul 07:54 collapse

I’m not and if you associate free speech with hate speech then that’s on you

If you associate discrimination with right then that’s also wrong (and I don’t believe I’ve done such thing anyways)

Idk about the instance, we will see if it’s not just a xenophobic mess, I hope not

You’re on blahaj so I believe you don’t have anything to say about free speech because that thing doesn’t really exist in your instance