Anyone else dealing with this, hiring freeze for new devs but more work/projects?
from mesamunefire@piefed.social to programming@programming.dev on 20 May 20:27
https://piefed.social/post/769637

I am experiencing a bit of a whiplash here at work. To be fair, I am getting paid very well (and got a significant raise last year, that was good), but we have had positions be open for years now with no hiring. And we are having more and more projects being proposed without finishing the projects themselves. Its the classic they want to do more with less scenario. The top brass just announced a hiring freeze so new devs for a while.

The execs are floating the idea that AI can be used to replace or supplement the people leaving. On all of our propitiatory code-base/solutions…yeah that will go well.

So yeah anyone else dealing with this?

#programming

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atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 20 May 20:31 next collapse

The execs are floating the idea that AI can be used to replace or supplement the people leaving.

I’ve been thinking about going into consulting. Companies like this are going to be a gold mine in a few years.

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 20 May 20:34 collapse

I feel like this is a repeat of the "just hire someone overseas" again. The projects will go haywire after an initial promise...and the only ones that can fix it are the experienced devs. Cant tell you how many projects I got over the years like that.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 20 May 20:46 next collapse

Execs that float this shit can suck it. If they don’t want to hire, don’t let them saddle you with more work. I work my hours, do what I can and clock out. If they ask for more, I tell them what I’m working on, how much it takes, and when their stuff will be able to get slotted in. They can try and squeeze more out of you, but only if you let them. Don’t let them.

They can fire you and try to hire a sucker who will - or keep running through suckers that do, but it won’t do their company nor their clients good, at least not in the long term. But these people are only around for the short term gains.

Anti Commercial-AI license

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 20 May 20:52 collapse

Oh yeah, ive been doing this for close to 20 years now. I have YEARs worth of savings if need be. If they want to get rid of me, ill have a job lined up in a couple of months as im literally at the beach. I dont work overtime.

Time is a much more valuable commodity. I appreciate the comment.

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 May 20:48 next collapse

I am getting paid very well

You guys are getting paid well? what the heck am I doing wrong.

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 20 May 20:54 collapse

For me:
I did a LOT of contracting/small jobs at first and found im pretty good at anything that plugs into the wall. Then found out you can get paid if you just deliver reliably.

Also getting into a niche can help your $$. I did EDI for a bit and it helped later on. No one knows EDI (for good reason).

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 May 21:24 next collapse

The thing is, I am already in a niche - since I am coming from the engineering / non-IT side and sliding into development. Probably the start-up character of my company doesnt help here expecting high income for now.

But I am going with either earning, learning or leaving. And since I learn so fucking much I cannot leave.

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 20 May 21:26 next collapse

Im a bit confused. Are you in a startup? And you are learning the ropes on the business side?

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 May 21:31 collapse

used. Are you in a startup? And you are learning the ropes on the business side?

yes. and yes. basically everything. I assume summarizing my tasks/work would require 3 job positions filled.

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 20 May 21:33 collapse

GL! Thats a hard one.

Ive found my highest paying roles were in traditional workplaces with very specific duties. Startups in my area dont usually do well. But I hear stories of people hitting big. Seems like a very high risk/reward situation.

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 May 21:52 collapse

high risk/(hopefully) reward situation yes. But also probably because I am lazy - or lets say, I dont want to change my private life center because of the job.

It always boils down to many factors and my gut feeling tells me thats the best compromise. Or its the anxiety to push against change. nobody knows.

But thanks. may your life be prosperous. Especially if mine wont. ;)

pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip on 29 May 04:36 collapse

And since I learn so fucking much I cannot leave.

I nervously chose to stay and learn instead of raking in cash in some of my early developer jobs.

I told myself I would make more later after my skills were established.

Now it is later, and I am, indeed, making good money.

In hindsight, it was the right call, for me.

thequickben@lemm.ee on 21 May 05:27 collapse

I haven’t touched an 850 or 856 EDI document in years and I‘m happy for that 😂

Feyd@programming.dev on 20 May 23:45 next collapse

Sounds like a them problem. Don’t let them pressure you into working OT.

idunnololz@lemmy.world on 21 May 05:06 collapse

Yeah exactly. Let them pile on the work. Youre still working the same hours :shrug:.

coconut@programming.dev on 20 May 23:50 next collapse

I wish my company gave me big raises and stopped hiring.

Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 May 02:07 next collapse

It sounds like they’re in a holding pattern. They think AI will functionally replace programmers soon enough that hiring new ones will just be a waste of money.

Too bad that even if it were only a year or two away (it’s not, at least certainly not in the way they think), programmers would still 100% be the only people that could successfully onboard an AI solution into a proprietary ecosystem.

janonymous@lemmy.world on 21 May 06:32 collapse

Sounds like a good time to start your own business, creating a stable, no-bullshit version of whatever these companies produce