When Your Last Name Is Null, Nothing Works
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from otter@lemmy.ca to programming@programming.dev on 21 Feb 06:54
https://lemmy.ca/post/39487287
from otter@lemmy.ca to programming@programming.dev on 21 Feb 06:54
https://lemmy.ca/post/39487287
The word, used by computer scientists to mean ‘no value,’ has created long-running challenges
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Who the hell writes
if ‘null’? If it’s a thing, what language would interpret a string like that?Fucking JavaScript
Srsly?
Javascript is fun. The video takes a few jabs at ruby and then gives a glimpse into the insanity that is Javascript.
More of this please
!![] + !![] == 2No it doesn’t?
> Boolean(null) false > Boolean('null') true > null == 'null' falseI’d bet it’s less simple input sanitizing and more 2 mistakes made separately because they don’t know any better.
If the front end Dev makes the first mistake, null would be sent in the body as “null”. Then on the backend, somebody might even be binding the variables correctly, but before hand realizing they have to deal with the market and rather than just have a conversation undoes it in their own code.
Wait til they meet my friend Little Bobby Tables.
At this point I would think most people know, but for those who don’t:
xkcd.com/327
No, when people DON’T PROPERLY SANITIZE THEIR USER INPUT, nothing works!!!
Looks like little Bobby Tables has some extended family.
Taking the issue at face value, I wonder what Johnny Null’s workaround would be for his (or their) name?
N’ull? Nul-l? \Null? Null? JohnnyN ull?
Definitely not N’ull, that would trigger a SQL error when it can’t interpret the ull after the string delimiter.
–NullIf they’re not sanitizing that, they deserve to have their system broken lol
NuII works
Spoiler
Upper case i
Are people this silly? Just stop paying them. They’ll figure out how to cancel the account.
They might report you to a credit agency or keep your deposit
“We’re sending you to collections”
Oh so you have my last name?
“…no…”
This seems to be old news, and paywalled.
Edit: gee, thanks MSN. The article i’d read was about the license plate.
Morgan Null, in black, with her parents and brother, all Nulls. lol
Not that rare of a name apparently…
I’ve seen XML parsers that will convert element content from strings to native types by default. So “0” becomes an int, “true” becomes a boolean, and “null” becomes an actual null. I had to take extra steps to keep everything as a string unless explicitly told not to.
JSON does not have this problem, BTW.
I don’t think anyone actually chooses XML. There’s no reason to use it over JSON unless you need to.
The entirety of the banking world uses XML very heavily, as it’s part of the SWIFT standards.
I didn’t say that it’s not used. I say that you shouldn’t if you have the option.
If the entire X world uses Y technology. You have no choice other than using Y technology.
Really? Right in front of my AJAX?
json is fine as a serialization format for things that need to be text, but it’s not great as something that gets edited by hand.
not that I enjoy xml, but writing long strings in json is even worse. xml I can write multiline strings as a first class entity.
I can add a comment to an xml document, json I have to write something hacky like
“//”: “my comment”and hope whatever is consuming it doesn’t care.there’s just as many problems with json parsers, since most but not all of them treat numbers as js numbers, which are basically floats. you can’t rely on an arbitrary consumer having support to parse ints above a certain size so you just have to make everything a string and hope.
json allows duplicate keys, but they get overridden by the last occurrence. you can’t round trip json without losing something. you can’t rely on just seeing a key value in json text and that being correct since there could be another later. doesn’t come up often but it’s there.
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archive.is/2gDhN
archive.ph/2gDhN also works
This topic pops up in random news sites like every 5 years, and usually the conclusion is people with these names have less and less problems, as systems evolve.
Nowadays names which looks like some vulgar words cause more problems, it’s called the Scunthorpe problem from the city of Scunthorpe. As this is a shitty article, this actual problem is not even mentioned, classic.
Lol one of the characters in my D&D group is named Farthard (pronounced Far-thard) and his steed is named Shithead (pronounced Sha-theed)
little bobby null
Anyone got a non-paywall link? I’m changing my name soon and this is highly relevant to my interests.