The results of the 2024 Stack Overflow developer survey (survey.stackoverflow.co)
from Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works to programming@programming.dev on 10 Aug 2024 05:11
https://sh.itjust.works/post/23474774

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aks@pawb.social on 10 Aug 2024 10:03 next collapse

So much “AI” bullshit, kinda embarrassing.

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 10 Aug 2024 22:37 collapse

Hrm, it’s only a survey. I think having information on people’s opinion of a new/emerging technology is a good idea.

aks@pawb.social on 11 Aug 2024 02:13 collapse

For sure. But they’re selling their own “AI” bullshit so it takes big portion of the survey too.

This bubble can’t burst soon enough.

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 11 Aug 2024 03:12 collapse

they’re selling their own “AI” bullshit

Omg, they are. I had no idea that that existed. I’m not surprised at all, though — it seems AI is to businesses as podcasts are to middle aged dads 😜

[deleted] on 10 Aug 2024 12:12 next collapse

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NostraDavid@programming.dev on 10 Aug 2024 17:11 next collapse

I wish they had a section for query languages. Too many people only know about SQL, which being based on the Relational Model is rather powerful, except crappily implemented due to inconsistencies in the language. We need alternatives.

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 10 Aug 2024 22:08 collapse

They have a section on databases, but, yeah, it looks like nothing for query languages.

HiddenTower@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 04:01 next collapse

I am still confused how to understand the results about programming language. Desired vs Admired? One means you use it, one means you want to?

Mikina@programming.dev on 12 Aug 2024 08:08 next collapse

How I understand it is that the admired language is one of those “I’ll start learning it tommorow” languages, that you however already talk about how great it is wherever you can, i.e see Rust on Lemmy.

I also find it funny (and relatable) how neovim is the most admired IDE. I totally relate to that, I’ve been telling myself “I’ll learn and switch to Helix tommorrow” for the past two years.

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 2024 00:25 collapse

Yeah, I agree — it feels unnecessarily ambiguous.

Mikina@programming.dev on 12 Aug 2024 08:01 collapse

76% of all respondents are using or are planning to use AI tools in their development process this year, an increase from last year (70%). Many more developers are currently using AI tools this year, too (62% vs. 44%).

What the fuck. That’s horrifying. I also though that every sensible workplace bans the use of AI.

A friend was telling me about a discussion between CTO’s at a conference, where they were talking about whether it’s even worth it to hire junior developers anymore, since there’s a high risk of them just being “AI-raised”, without much (or any) experience of coding without AI. And, this survey result… I can see where they are coming from. The future of programming looks pretty bleak - our job will not be replaced. It will just get worse, with good developers being more of a rarity.

And the amount of people who use vim or neovim as their IDE is surprisingly high. Is it skewed by sysadmins?

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 2024 00:38 collapse

What the fuck. That’s horrifying. I also though that every sensible workplace bans the use of AI.

I don’t see it as being different than any other tool. Aside from the ethical discussions, and assuming that it is being used as if it were simply a tool, if it increases productivity, then what’s the issue?