Ubuntu 25.10 Looks To Make Use Of Rust Coreutils & Other Rust System Components (www.phoronix.com)
from GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml to programming@programming.dev on 13 Mar 23:07
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Ephera@lemmy.ml on 14 Mar 02:29 next collapse

Heard just this week that uutils apparently has 100% compatibility with the GNU coreutils (so more than musl BusyBox aims for). That’s good, if distros start shipping it then. It’s not really something normal users would install themselves…

mlflexer@lemm.ee on 14 Mar 07:07 next collapse

They don’t seem to have 100% pass of the tests, but I might be missing something?

Would love to take the jump, but I think I’ll wait until they pass all tests

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 14 Mar 07:23 collapse

Oh, it said “By ~2026, it will be 100% compliant”, which seems to just be an estimate based on the trend for how many tests they passed over the past years. My bad.

But yeah, probably still useful to get it onto real systems now to find any other remaining bugs.

monk@lemmy.unboiled.info on 19 Mar 19:20 collapse

musl is a libc

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 19 Mar 19:35 collapse

Ah, right, mixed it up with BusyBox.

Flipper@feddit.org on 14 Mar 07:55 next collapse

So how should such a system be called? Uutil/Linux?

monk@lemmy.unboiled.info on 19 Mar 19:19 collapse

Same as decades before: Ubuntu.

jlh@lemmy.jlh.name on 14 Mar 08:58 next collapse

Not part of uutils but I’ve been using sudo-rs on all of my NixOS systems for over a year, and it’s been great.

yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca on 14 Mar 09:04 collapse

What’s the difference from your normal sudo?

jlh@lemmy.jlh.name on 14 Mar 09:36 collapse

Not much, just says sudo-rs instead of sudo, and it’s memory safe. I think there might be some missing features for really advanced multi-tenant setups, but for single user machines, it’s the perfect successor to sudo.

nixos also supports giving the sudo binary a setuid flag that only allows members of the wheel group to use sudo, preventing any privilege escalation attacks from your services/servers.

Artyom@lemm.ee on 14 Mar 09:02 next collapse

Who maintains uutil? Presumably it’s not GNU?

GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml on 14 Mar 17:35 collapse

Two software engineers, one from Texas, the other from the Netherlands

twice_hatch@midwest.social on 14 Mar 21:21 collapse

They aren’t allowed to eat meals prepared at the same restaurant or fly on the same plane, for continuity

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 14 Mar 11:57 next collapse

I have to stop clicking on the phoronix comment section. It’s like a mini Twitter.

Still, Ubuntu should also ditch snap instead of hanging onto it just because they wrote it. It’s the reason I don’t recommend Ubuntu to friends anymore.

Anti Commercial-AI license

HorseFD@lemmy.world on 14 Mar 23:42 next collapse

It’s the main reason many people avoid Ubuntu. They could achieve the same goal by shipping the Flatpak version of Firefox if they really don’t want to handle its packaging.

anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Mar 19:49 collapse

I tried to open files placed in /tmp in Firefox and gave up after going down the sandbox rabbit hole. I then uninstalled the snap and did some acrobatics to get the apt version, as apt install firefox will actually install the snap by default.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 19 Mar 22:51 collapse

Had the same experience with chromium. Can’t remember what I was trying to do but it involved accessing hardware (GPU or something) and it just didn’t work. That was until I found out apt install chromium installed a goddamn snap package. I felt betrayed and lied to.

Canonical does great things, but that is definitely not one of them.

Anti Commercial-AI license

twice_hatch@midwest.social on 14 Mar 21:22 collapse

One wonders how much of that is to remove copyleft

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Mar 10:22 next collapse

Wow, interesting thought.

I do use a few of the rust uutils notably cp -g (progress bar)

But now you make me think this change is for nefarious purposes.

monk@lemmy.unboiled.info on 19 Mar 19:19 collapse

A thousand times less than the conspirologists suggest.