Things to say when you're losing a technical argument (web.archive.org)
from agilob@programming.dev to programming@programming.dev on 01 Dec 2023 08:10
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huntrss@feddit.de on 01 Dec 2023 08:48 next collapse

Didn’t read all, however, thanks for sharing. Made me laugh and I certainly needed a good laugh today

HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social on 01 Dec 2023 10:05 collapse

Entry 71.

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 01 Dec 2023 09:00 next collapse

Trying to build a team behind that technology would be a staffing nightmare.

An incredibly valid consideration that too often goes ignored.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 13:48 collapse

Oh, this one stings. My company uses a proprietary platform for it’s most critical records but we require a technical certification to even use its API. Pretty much an entire division said, “Fuck you! We’re not tying up our people for 3 months to study and acquire a certification. We just won’t use it!”

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today on 01 Dec 2023 09:29 next collapse

“I’m afraid that isn’t according to best practices”

Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works on 01 Dec 2023 10:57 collapse

Let’s do it for real then

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today on 02 Dec 2023 02:28 collapse

We’ll never get it certified if we do it that way.

flan@hexbear.net on 01 Dec 2023 09:33 next collapse

are you losing because youre wrong or because someone wants to do something a different way and they have more buy in from the rest of the team?

If it’s the first thing just admit youre wrong and move on. If it’s the second thing either bring the data to show your way is better or just go with the other proposal. Having disagreements drag on for too long is going to make everybody unhappy.

edit: ah this is a joke article and not a question from op

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 01 Dec 2023 09:42 collapse

Yea, a good developer, especially a senior developer, will fight like hell for the right answer… and if they realize their answer was wrong they should concede the point and maybe self-examine why they’d overlooked that possibility.

Socsa@sh.itjust.works on 02 Dec 2023 03:07 collapse

Me, giving a two hour presentation on why Jira is hot garbage at my performance review for three years straight:

Me, giving a six hour presentation on why Jira is hot garbage at my next job interview:

Me, explaining to the judge why Jira is hot garbage at my murder trial:

My last words on death row, reciting my self published book on why Jira is hot garbage:

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 09:36 next collapse

I like your idea. Why don’t you write up a white paper and we’ll review it at the next staff meeting?

I think I might have said this verbatim before

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 01 Dec 2023 09:39 next collapse

That one feels too cruel. If you said that to some junior dev they’d likely do it… and probably in their free time.

That said with fellow senior devs if someone suggests something completely off the wall I will occasionally respond with, essentially, prove it first.

Carighan@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 09:49 next collapse

“It’s* better** to do things*** by this approach.”

Always throw a spanner in there with:

*: [citation needed]
**: According to who exactly?
***: Please specify exact use cases

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 16:31 collapse

It’s more Pythonic.

Socsa@sh.itjust.works on 02 Dec 2023 03:03 collapse

With a senior engineer it’s perfectly reasonable to just say “ok, implement it and let me know how it works.”

Like the whole point is that they should be relatively independent and capable of taking ideas from paper to product.

idunnololz@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 10:03 collapse

I was told to write my idea into an article to share internally with engineers. Then someone internally reached out to post it on our company tech blog. Then it got published on the tech blog. So I guess that’s something?

abobla@lemm.ee on 01 Dec 2023 09:50 next collapse

“your mom”

mateomaui@reddthat.com on 01 Dec 2023 10:40 next collapse

If we go with that idea, we’re going to have Don Marti camped out in the front lobby with 300 angry software jihad supporters.

do it

waz@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 11:00 next collapse

As a started reading I thought “Hmm, some of these remind me of [coworker x]”. As I continued I realized all of these remind me of [coworker x].

I might have to turn some of these into bingo cards.

Vlyn@lemmy.zip on 01 Dec 2023 11:20 next collapse

Most of the entries were just funny, the last one is a nuke:

  1. I heard that the only real application for that technology was child pornography. How did you hear about it?
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz on 01 Dec 2023 14:14 next collapse

power tripping legislators when someone mentions encryption

kryllic@programming.dev on 02 Dec 2023 04:29 collapse

Gonna use this next time someone suggests using excel as a database

computergeek125@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 13:10 collapse

I’ve got one to add that should be used more often than it is.

Wouldn’t that require running the service as an admin?