Is the Wii good?
from possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to retrogaming@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 03:17
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I hold the Wii pretty high in my head. However, I also know that the grass is often very green on the other side.

Is it actually as fun as I remember? I see that a lot of the classic games are pretty rare so that is not reassuring.

#retrogaming

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Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 03:22 next collapse

The novelty of it was amazing, and as fun as you remember, but I also remember my Wii collecting dust not too long after we got it.

empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 2024 03:24 next collapse

The wii is still a staple of party nights in my friend group. It’s hardware is frankly kinda shit but the quality game design and innovative controllers are just not something any other console or computer can ever replace.

It’s too bad Nintendo stopped doing cool shit and is just a lawyer-run IP milking house now.

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 2024 03:34 collapse

Yeah, it’s a great party console.

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 2024 03:31 next collapse

I transferred all my wii games to a hard drive and use Dolphin. The annoying thing about the wii games is mapping the controls to a useable gamepad.

My most played wii games are NewER Super Mario Bros (an excellent hack), the Last Story (very good unique RPG), Monster Hunter Tri, Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy 2, Cave Story…

But the my library is really filled with GameCube games and wiiware rereleases.

Wii bowling with the actual console and romote controllers hasn’t been beaten yet.

TotesIllegit@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 03:32 next collapse

I just got a Wii to play RE4, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, and a couple GameCube games. I still need to get the component cable (I’m on composite, which isn’t ideal) but I’m finding it just as fun as I remember.

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 03:34 next collapse

It’s the game quality, really. Same with most Nintendo systems I would say. Come for the motion gimmicks, but stay for the quality games.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 19 Nov 2024 03:35 next collapse

I wish I had kept mine because I would kill for some Wii Resort ping-pong or bowling.

I have 11 Table Tennis in VR and somehow the physics just don’t feel nearly as good as Wii Resort/Wii Sports. Various bowling games in VR I’ve tried are the same… IDK how the motion controls can be worse when I literally use my hands. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 04:14 collapse

Maybe you’re just bad at bowling and the bad controls on the Wii compensated for it! 😂

digredior@lemmynsfw.com on 19 Nov 2024 03:39 next collapse

There’s a reason why the Wii sold as well as it did. It was very good for its time in that the motion controls were just accurate enough to not be a total frustration. It sat at a modest price point relative to its competitors, and Nintendo has always been extremely good at maximizing on the potential of their consoles with superb game design.

So yeah, I think it was actually as fun as you remember it… but that was still almost 20 years ago. No doubt you’d enjoy it if you picked one up, but I’ll bet its age will show. It’ll depend on your tolerance for dated game and UI design to know how much you’d enjoy it in the long run. Plus, I do believe that a lot of the services like the Virtual Console have been sunset.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 03:42 next collapse

Its really sad to me that you can no longer buy Fluidity

Arbiter@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 07:04 collapse

I highly recommend modding your Wii, opens up a lot of options for game preservation and isn’t that hard to do.

horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 2024 10:52 collapse

It emulates excellent too. Is modding still requiring some soldering or can homevrew be enabled w/ software on the latest models too?

Arbiter@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 19:02 collapse

wii.hacks.guide

It’s all software.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 2024 15:27 collapse

almost 20 years ago

don’t do this to me D:

digredior@lemmynsfw.com on 20 Nov 2024 04:24 collapse

The NES was ~40 years ago…

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Nov 2024 05:27 collapse

STHAAAAAP oh no i die soon

digredior@lemmynsfw.com on 20 Nov 2024 13:04 collapse

The 3DO was featured in the Pauly Shore movie, “In the Army Now”…

In 1994

ownsauce@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 05:25 next collapse

The Wii is great. Play games that make the most of the wiimote and nunchuck, those are the best.

My favorites were Metroid Prime Trilogy made/remade for the wii controls, and Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess / Skyward Sword. And the fun arcade/sports games like bowling, golf, Mario Galaxy, etc

Looks like I missed House of the Dead 2 and 3, so I may try to find a used wii and used copies to play em. It’d be awesome if Nintendo released a Wii Classic like the NES and SNES Classics.

…gamespot.com/…/1637-the-top-10-wii-games-that-ma…

old.reddit.com/…/which_wii_games_make_the_best_us…

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 06:14 collapse

…so we just gonna skip over the N64 classic and gamecube classic then?

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 2024 07:56 next collapse

Why does the idea of a Wii classic inherently deny the possibility of an n64 and GameCube classic?

Also in my opinion I don’t think any other classics are happening, think Nintendo are all in on NSO for their old games now

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 10:15 collapse

Because NES classic came first. SNES came like a year later. If we WERE going to get another classics line, it would clearly be N64 classic. Then Gamecube classic, THEN Wii Classic.

Then they could do WiiU classic, but in keeping accurate with historical console sales, they’d only produce 50 total.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 13:57 next collapse

Except who actually is old enough to remember the N64? It is old enough that that demographic is small

ownsauce@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 14:35 next collapse

Older Millenials and Gen X, the same ones that grew up with the NES and SNES. Not small at all

Edit: Roughly 180 Million people in the US alive today, were 7 years old or older when the N64 released in 1996. Which is about 55% of the US population.

neilsberg.com/…/united-states-population-by-age/

the_crotch@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 2024 15:25 collapse

The same people who are old enough to remember the NES/SNES, and anyone slightly younger

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works on 20 Nov 2024 07:44 collapse

This post was specifically just talking about the wii though. It had nothing to do with talking about the n64 or GameCube. And in doing so was never about “skipping” them, they were not the topic of conversation

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 13:56 collapse

Much less robust hardware

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 05:34 next collapse

The Wii was a console system for people who were unaware of or didn’t like console systems.

So if you’re in that co-hort, or an active Nintendo fan… yeah, it’s a great console.

It says a lot that the best selling titles on it largely came with extra plastic bits that are likely collecting dust now.

Full disclosure, I own a Wii, it’s hooked up and running and everything. Other than occasionally showing off the absolute insanity that is Muscle March, I really can’t think of any game on it I’d still play.

youtu.be/2YRqI7JuZO8

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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 06:15 next collapse

Yes…methods…

icogniito@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 06:43 collapse

I’d not recommend a wii u for Wii games actually, it has worse visual quality than an actual wii, the scaler in the wii u is horrible and destroys picture clarity

smokebuddy@lemmy.today on 19 Nov 2024 07:37 collapse

I have both and hadn’t noticed much difference from the results of the HDMI output of the WiiU over a Wii using Component Cables through the same Elgato, but you’re probably right about a direct feed to a TV, or adding better quality devices in the chain. I’ve played OG Xbox through the setup using the Official HD Pack for a long time and have low expectations probably.

icogniito@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 13:53 collapse

Trust me, the difference is massive, especially when comparing to a Wii using component. Like I mentioned the internal scaler in the Wii u is horrid, it makes games blurry, zooms in and lowers brightness, a Wii over component is miles better.

With an early model Wii you obviously also have full GameCube back compat, with games and almost all peripherals, yes you can run GameCube through Nintendont in vwii on wii u but then we’re getting into grey areas

kubj31196@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 2024 06:19 next collapse

The Wii has Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2.
There hasn’t been a Super Mario Galaxy anywhere else besides the Wii.
The Wii is awesome.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 19 Nov 2024 16:19 collapse

There was a Switch version.

Quazatron@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 08:49 next collapse

Wii was the only console I ever bought. I prefer playing with keyboard and mouse, so consoles were never really my focus.

I had a lot of fun with it, it had some amazing games that made good use of the controllers. It was a great family console that even older people or people that don’t usually play could use.

It was also great at running old school emulators for other consoles (SNES, Genesis) after some tinkering.

It also drove home my main hate regarding consoles: they are closed systems, owned not by you but by the manufacturer. The games were and still are expensive, unlike PCs where games get cheaper over time. They can also disable the servers providing services for your console (news channel, weather channel) when they feel like you should move on and buy their next console.

So I won’t buy another console again, even if I still love my Wii, that I power on occasionally.

chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 09:48 next collapse

I have a Wii and a whole bunch of games just collecting dust. Even now that I’m reminded of it I don’t have any desire to play.

I do really want to grab a CRT TV and a NES and SNES. I miss those games far more than anything on the Wii!

RebekahWSD@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 11:16 next collapse

I love the Wii and I’m sad mine broke (it won’t read the discs anymore and all attempts to fix that at home failed). It is one of the very few consoles my husband could use, him having cerebral palsy. We played that together constantly! It was great.

CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Nov 2024 11:41 next collapse

I have quite a few consoles from most of the generations and honestly Wii is my favourite. I love playing Wii games, I love the idea of playing on this console and I love collecting for it. I think I actually have 3 or 4 Wiis but I use my WiiU for the HD (I do have a dongle for the Wii as well). There is no video game updates every time you put the disc in, there are no trophies or gamer score, no communities, social media features, ads. You boot it up and enjoy. Because it was so much different from what was on the market, developers couldn’t simply port games onto it. They had to develop with the console and its hardware in mind and that’s what made it special. I know that on paper Switch is just a better Wii as it has the best of both worlds (it has motion controls and its beefy enough to play more demanding games) but as the focus is mostly to catch up with the other consoles, I think it lost a bit of that magic.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 13:48 collapse

I’m really interested in emulation as you can do upscaling which should make the older titles look and run pretty well.

CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Nov 2024 19:23 collapse

Wii games on WiiU look good enough on my 60 inches to me. Obviously you can do the upscaling and get all the bells and whistles but I don’t know if these games would benefit from it at all. I like the slightly soft feeling as it is

LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 2024 15:28 next collapse

Has a lotta great titles people still remember fondly, and it’s heaps easy to hack it to get emulators on it. Win win!

dukatos@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 2024 15:58 collapse

It has about 15 good games and some of them had to be trimmed down to be able to run on Wii.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 19 Nov 2024 16:21 next collapse

The good games were great. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is probably the best Mario game full stop.

The controllers were crap for traditional games.

There was so much shovelware.

Matty@lemmy.autism.place on 19 Nov 2024 16:27 next collapse

It depends if you like motion controls to be honest as majority of games used it. Wii is not my cup of tea personally but I love playing The House of The Dead 2 & 3 Returns as I don’t have an CRT to play lightguns games.

will_a113@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 2024 03:38 next collapse

I just replayed Super Mario Galaxy for the first time in about 10 years and it felt every bit amazing as the first time. What an incredible game.

My kids and I also still occasionally play MarioKart Wii (even though we have it in the switch too) just to use the Wii wheels :)

Grangle1@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 2024 19:19 next collapse

As many have said, it’s all about the games. How well the WiiMote functions in a game is largely dependent on the actual game as well. Nintendo pretty much showed the peak of what they can do with the Wii Sports games, and there are a few other games that use the motion controls well, but they tend to be the minority. That said, as a traditional controller it’s not the worst thing in the world, and you can still use a Pro controller, the classic controller attachment or a GameCube controller for more traditional controls. The Wii library can be underrated due to the prevalence of shovelware, but there are great games like the Mario Galaxy games, Mario Kart Wii, the last good Mario Party before Superstars, the original versions of Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, the aforementioned Wii Sports games, the second Mario Strikers, the best of the New Super Mario Bros games, Metroid Prime 3, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn (if you can afford them), DKC Returns, Kirby’s Return to Dreamland, Kirby’s Epic Yarn (another game that used the motion controls well) and many more. (As an aside, I think the Wii U will also be known as a console with an under-rated library down the road.) Sadly, due to its perception and underpowered hardware for its generation, there’s not much actually good third-party software for it, but Nintendo themselves supported the Wii more than adequately.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 19 Nov 2024 22:10 collapse

I personally think it would also be pretty cool if the Wii had a actually maintained OS. Dolphin has already done the heavy lifting so theoretically it should be possible to implement a properly maintained OS.

Sounds like if I can get my hands on some classic games I should be set

a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Nov 2024 05:09 next collapse

I just remember having a blast playing Resident Evil 4 with the Wiimote for targeting.

gramie@lemmy.ca on 20 Nov 2024 05:34 collapse

I got a Wii with the Wii Fit balance board for my dad to work on his balance and coordination as he aged. He never really got into it, but I think that could be an absolutely killer “game” for elderly people.