Running my Sega Saturn.
from VanHalbgott@lemmus.org to retrogaming@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 19:57
https://lemmus.org/post/2688206

NOTE: the official memory cartridge sadly doesn’t work anymore. Perhaps I could format it?

#retrogaming

trucy@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Jan 2024 20:11 next collapse

Ah yes, finally something other than nintendo consoles!

Delphia@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:18 next collapse

If you can get a copy of an RPG called Silver, I remember it being very fun.

MudMan@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 22:29 collapse

I very specifically remember it not being very fun at all, but then at the time they were pushing it as a FF7 competitor and it is extremely not that.

Silver was on the Dreamcast, though. And PC, which is where I got disappointed with it.

Delphia@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 23:41 collapse

Actually you’re right. Was Dreamcast… I am very old.

yeather@lemmy.ca on 18 Jan 2024 20:33 next collapse

Nice, what a fun machine.

KingJalopy@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 00:51 collapse

In theory

GunValkyrie@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 20:38 next collapse

Look up Sega Saturn Action Replay cart. It works better than the official cart.

MudMan@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 22:27 collapse

Yeah, fortunately softmodding acts as a backdoor to make that part of the system have a healthy afterrmarket replacement. Which is useful because man, that thing had less storage than I remembered.

dan1101@lemm.ee on 18 Jan 2024 20:52 next collapse

How is it looking on LCD? A lot of older games were designed for CRT.

AnonTwo@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 21:22 collapse

I mean maybe you'd need an adapter if for some reason it doesn't have the RYW plugs, but these things will generally work on whatever TV you plug them into. TV manufacturers obviously didn't want to have to tell consumers that their products would stop working moving to LCD.

But a common factor is the console doesn't know the difference so the screen size will usually be stretched. But thats about it.

MossyFeathers@pawb.social on 18 Jan 2024 23:51 next collapse

This. I recently hooked my steam deck up to a CRT (I’ve been playing a lot of games that were made for a 4:3 ratio). All it takes is an active adapter (in my case, active hdmi-to-vga) and setting the deck to output to a 4:3 aspect ratio.

That said, if that was a smart TV then OP would probably have a lot more issues. My parents have a (Samsung) smart TV and I’ve had nothing but headaches trying to get my deck to work with that, and they’re both modern devices. Some days it takes one try, some days it takes five tries, some days I just give up.

JudahBenHur@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 01:59 collapse

theres a bit more to it- these older systems look nowhere near as good on an LCD display than they do on CRTs. The graphics were optimized for the RGB electron gun outputs, so those pixels look blurred, and illusions of gradients and shading work where on an LCD it looks way granier.

SinningStromgald@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:13 next collapse

Sega Saturn was the console I rented the most from Blockbuster back in the day. It’s the second system after an Atari Jaguar I want.

VanHalbgott@lemmus.org on 19 Jan 2024 15:17 collapse

Oh my gosh, I really wish I had more Atari consoles where I live. But I do have a VCS now.

The new Atari VCS that I got on sale last year.

Much affordable than a PS5 or Xbox Series X/S.

But the Switch is a good console too.

Jaysyn@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 21:14 next collapse

I've got one of these somewhere.

Need to break it out for some Panzer Dragoon.

finthechat@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 21:26 next collapse

Careful. That is an old system. Maybe consider walking it instead.

rodolfo@lemmy.world on 18 Jan 2024 21:45 next collapse

wish you to feel like the first time you played it

MudMan@kbin.social on 18 Jan 2024 22:31 next collapse

That's vanilla VF1, right? So... disappointed and mildly concerned?

I'm kinda joking, (kinda), because by the time I got a Saturn it came with Remix already, so I wouldn't know.

rodolfo@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 07:30 collapse

you were disappointed and mildly concerned at the sight of the very first 3d fighting game? wow…

MudMan@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 09:05 collapse

Oh, no, I had my entire world redefined at the sight of the first 3D fighting game... when I played it in arcades the year prior.

The launch version for the Saturn was... a different story. Again, by the time I was able to get my hands on a Saturn the version they were bundling was VF Remix instead, which again, mind blown, entire path in life significantly impacted, so I've always been morbidly curious about vanilla.

EDIT: For reference, for people who may be lacking some context here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubJSL5GhSZU

rodolfo@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 18:50 collapse

ok my bad. legend in town was that inside coin ops there was saturn hw. but who knows… this is maybe true for me, and not for you.

MudMan@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 20:24 collapse

OK, I had to look this up, VF1 was model 1, like Virtua Racing, but the did ship a backport of Remix that did run on ST-V. More likely you remember people being excited about the idea that Saturn would just be arcade hardware at home and we'd get arcade perfect ports of Daytona and VF, which was extremely not the case.

I mostly remember the arcade being pin-sharp, which it was, but once you got the upgraded textures nobody was complaining. And we got both at once in VF2, so...

rodolfo@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 21:43 collapse

no, we were excited we could have arcade 3d at home. but it’s 25 years ago, or some such… honestly I care more about “sweet memories” than historical correctness. nonetheless your memory, and will to share it, is more than appreciable, in fact I thank you for sharing.

VanHalbgott@lemmus.org on 19 Jan 2024 15:22 collapse

Why thanks! Segasatan, Shiro!

AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 00:56 next collapse

One of the consoles I really wanna get some day. They totally shafted themselves by not putting more Sonic games on it.

VanHalbgott@lemmus.org on 19 Jan 2024 15:24 collapse

That’s because Sega of Japan was jealous of Sega of America making Sonic the Hedgehog popular worldwide through America, so they went and developed the Saturn independently of them and the two companies got mixed up.

That was how Sega stopped making hardware and became another third-party publisher.

torvusbogpod@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 18:28 collapse

Yeah Sega of Japan, particularly Sonic Team, actively refused to provide STI (American dev team) with source code necessary to build the game

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 01:26 collapse

Get yourself a crt tv

VanHalbgott@lemmus.org on 19 Jan 2024 15:26 collapse

Thank you, but I prefer my LED TV so I can use my Blu-Ray Player, Nintendo Switch, and also all my other consoles that have AV output anyway.

I bet CRT televisions would be nice though.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 15:38 next collapse

They are pretty cheap, no harm in having one on the side for your older consoles and games; they really improve the visuals. Plus the retro look goes crazy if you integrate it into your setup properly

The price range is generally from $50-$500 but you can definitely get some cheaper than that on Facebook marketplace I’m sure

You could also just rip the cathode ray tubes out for a fun time

altima_neo@lemmy.zip on 19 Jan 2024 18:09 collapse

Get a crt TV and a GBS-C with HDMI inputs