I'm playing Pokemon HeartGold on my iPhone and I love it!
from LazaroFilm@lemmy.world to retrogaming@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 20:49

I installed Ignited via SideStore. No Jailbreaking necessary. Not computer tether. SideStore can renew the side loaded emulator every 7 days when on WiFi. The iPhone is perfect for DS emulation with a stylus.

(Ignited is a fork of Delta with more options, and SideStore is a fork of AltStore, with no computer tether needed)


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LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 20:56 next collapse

As for stylus, I’m using this. It’s a capacitive stylus (works on iPhone, unlike apple’s pencil) but it’s battery powered to keep a thin point and high precision vs the rubbery knob stylus.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 20:58 next collapse

I’m just at the beginning but I love the fresh gameplay and look and still get memories of Pokemon gold. I also recommend the Zelda on DS (Phantom Hourglass was awesome!!!)

johnthedoe@lemmy.ml on 19 Sep 2023 21:02 next collapse

That’s awesome. Does it perform well? Last time I tried heart gold emulation it was so laggy and I couldn’t fix it and gave up. This looks really cool tho in tempted to try

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 21:21 collapse

I’m on iPhone 14 Pro and it works flawlessly! Even has fast forward (I think 125% without JIT). The emulator even has microphone and lid closing functions for the games that use it.

Edit: it was also working on my iPhone X with no issues.

JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee on 19 Sep 2023 21:07 next collapse

Can you do that on Android?

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 21:16 next collapse

Yes. It’s even easier on Android. Look for RetroArch. It emulates a bunch of consoles.

JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee on 19 Sep 2023 21:26 collapse

Thanks! But wow does its UI make my screen look much smaller than it is.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 21:29 next collapse

I don’t know how it works in RetroArch, with Delta/Ignited you can change the skin which also manages the size and position of the screens. I even designed custom skins to play full screen with no controls with Zelda since you don’t need the abxy and arrow buttons to play.

c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 21:47 next collapse

Mypizzaboy is the best android emulator tbh

BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 22:02 next collapse

If retroarch is too much you can try Lemuroid. Lemuroid is a much simpler emulation app with a more straightforward GUI. It doesn’t come anywhere near the features or number of cores of retroarch but it supports most common retro systems.

can@sh.itjust.works on 20 Sep 2023 02:46 next collapse

If you’re only interested in a few consoles you could try dedicated emulators.

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl on 20 Sep 2023 06:59 collapse

You can change scaling in options gear > user interface > appearance > menu scale factor

krey@sh.itjust.works on 19 Sep 2023 21:17 next collapse

yes, but it’s unfortunately much less exciting, because it’s very easy and just works.

c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 21:44 next collapse

Only since like ten years ago.

refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Sep 2023 21:52 collapse

Nah. Closer to 15 years since emulation was possible on Android.

refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Sep 2023 21:51 next collapse
JamesBean@kbin.social on 19 Sep 2023 23:36 collapse

Best Android app for emulating DS in my experience is DraStic.

Shush@reddthat.com on 20 Sep 2023 06:44 collapse

Can confirm. I played so many games on DRaStic over the last few years. Zero issues.

Of course, some games are not well suited to a full touch screen, especially if they require quick coordination of both stylus and D-Pad. They are relatively few though - most games work great.

Caboose12000@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 23:14 next collapse

that’s a really beautiful emulated skin, I wish ignited worked on android lol

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 00:05 collapse

The emulation itself is melonDS packaged into an iOS app. It also does GameBoy, GBA, NES, SNES, and N64 (which works astonishingly well, going through PaperMario64 too)

Caboose12000@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 09:02 collapse

can melonDS actually look like that on android? I’ll have to go check it out asap

TheChancePants@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 23:15 next collapse

Been using Delta via AltStore for a couple years now, never heard of these options! You consider these better than those?

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 23:47 collapse

I switched from Delta/AltStore about 2 weeks ago. Ignited and SideStore are based on them but unlock more options. The no need to pair with your computer every 7 days has been amazing. Join their Discord for more info.

Pooptimist@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 23:41 next collapse

I play Pokemon via PokeMMo and I urge you to check it out! It’s available for desktop, mac, Android and iOS. You just need the roms of the games you want to play and then you create your character and choose your starting region.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 19 Sep 2023 23:50 next collapse

Can you explain more what it is? Unfortunately, I’m already using all 3 free apps so I can’t add it for now.

Pooptimist@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 00:25 collapse

Sure! It’s an app/game you download which uses the Roms of the different games to enable you to play Pokemon online with other players, but you don’t have to engage with them. You can also choose to just play each game as if you were offline and then transition into a new region after the top four, while having access to your pokemon from the old region. It’s a lot of fun, but the devs rebalanced the games a bit, which makes it a bit harder, but still fair :) Here’s the link where you can find more information: pokemmo.com/en/

charliegrahamm@lemm.ee on 20 Sep 2023 06:25 collapse

Can also vouch for pokemmo, it’s like Pokémon but better. Global trade market, large playerbase, slightly more difficult than traditional Pokémon games, travel between kanto, johto, hoenn and unova as the same character (fire red/leaf green, heartgold/soulsilver, emerald, black/white)

It truly is the Pokémon game Nintendo will never make and I’ll never go back to playing the normal games, it’s that good.

stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 13:23 collapse


Paid or you have to use a PC

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 01:37 next collapse

I play on my Android phone and I honestly love being able to just install the APK once, or even just install the emulator from like the Play store.

Pokemon is like the perfect game to play on phones though, HG/SS is my fav Pokemon game in the series and it has a bunch of cool custom ROM versions too. Pokemon games just play so well on phones.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 02:14 next collapse

The DS Zelda are also amazing. They don’t require any buttons to be played (except for L trigger to activate your tool faster) I created a full screen skin with no buttons just dual screens. Save load and home buttons at the bottom and it plays wonderfully.

deft@ttrpg.network on 20 Sep 2023 02:28 next collapse

trading available through this?

Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca on 20 Sep 2023 02:50 next collapse

I just hate how you can’t easily trade from game to game to actually “collect em’ all”

The emulators I’ve tried made it very difficult

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 00:49 next collapse

try romhacks!

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 18:28 next collapse

Sounds like you need PokeMMO.

CheatMageLVL99@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2023 01:48 collapse

I wish there was an updated homebrew app similar to pokemon bank. Or maybe something for retroachievements. What if retroachievements had a .jpeg cloud save that kept track of progress?

seiryth@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 10:42 collapse

What’s the best android emulator out there atm?

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 13:01 collapse

DraStic is currently the best but MelonDS is very good too.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 04:17 next collapse

Holy fuck this gave me a nostalgia hit as strong as a freight train

tomi000@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 07:53 next collapse

HeartGold is retro? Fuck Im old

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 11:45 collapse

DS is retro.

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 19:44 collapse

inb4 3DS is retro.

kratoz29@lemm.ee on 20 Sep 2023 08:07 next collapse

This remake is awesome, I finished like two months ago in original hardware… going to Kanto is pretty cool.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 11:45 collapse

So far I like the gameplay and use of the touchscreen. I had tried black version and didn’t like it as much somehow. This one has the feel of the original, same grid design same map. But wit 3D graphics on top (kinda like the Zelda remake for Switch)

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 12:35 next collapse

Never heard of the sidestore, but it seems so cool! This gets me closer to switching to iPhones than any of Apple’s events do. If the sidestore has a real file manager and local music player, and possibly even Firefox+uBlock origin, I would seriously consider switching to iPhone.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 12:47 next collapse

iOS has a native file manager app that works quite well. SideStore is great. The one caveat is that it’s limited to sideloading 3 apps if you don’t pay for an Apple developer account $99/year I think. Also EU has passed a law forcing Apple to open his store but nothing has happened yet. We’re all crossing fingers.

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 13:38 next collapse

If the EU does that and Apple follows through in America (doubtful), Apple will most likely have my money. I’d love to have the good parts of iPhones but I can’t stand how locked down it currently is.

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 20 Sep 2023 13:47 collapse

The native file manager kinda sucks. It’s clunky and doesn’t have many features. On the other hand, FX on Android is super fast and feature rich. So much better than the stock Android file manager.

wason@lemmy.ninja on 20 Sep 2023 19:44 next collapse

About Firefox, all browsers on iOS have to use Safari engine so they are basically just a Safari skin so I don’t know if you can use uBO but probably not.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 20 Sep 2023 21:59 collapse

It’s nice, but why would it tempt you to Apple? The same thing is available on android with much less work. F-Droid is a FOSS app catalogue, and you can just download it off the play store. You can also just use Firefox and play local music with nothing getting in the way.

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 21 Sep 2023 13:23 collapse

Because there actually are some desirable features only on iPhones. iMessage is the big one, but also many app developers–and college students around me!!!–treat Android users as 2nd class citizens; also I want to degoogle myself a bit. I’m also afraid of the direction Android is going in right now.

However, iPhones currently have so many undesirable “features” that I’ll never switch at the moment. The big ones are no sideloading, crappy file manager, no Firefox+uBlock origin, and no local music player. And the 2000% storage markups on iPhones are atrocious.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 13:45 next collapse

lol enjoy your blue bubbles

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 13:45 collapse

Seriously, people care about this a lot more than me. And I currently prefer Android, unlike 90% of people in my age group.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 21 Sep 2023 19:11 collapse

I don’t understand the iMessage thing. How is it desirable? It functions the same except you get a different color bubble if you’re messaging from android, which makes me want to join them less not more.

When do android users get treated like second class citizens by developers? Which apps, besides Apple owned ones like iMessage?

Degoogle yourself with android. Why is running to another megacorp better? Android is the only way to somewhat get away from them, but you have to put in a little effort.

I just don’t get the Apple stuff. The only tiny benefit that I see is they might be better at securing user data from government agencies maybe. Everything else is worse for more money.

SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 15:17 collapse

iMessage is how so many people communicate around me. It’s a lot more than just blue bubbles. It’s games, SharePlay, AirDrop (this is a huge one), and much more. Countless times, I’ve wanted to play some kind of iMessage game with a group of other people, but I have an Android so I can’t.

Okay the 2nd point is pretty moot actually. The only thing I can think of is Snapchat dark mode but that’s one feature on a proprietary social platform countless open source apps.

I really wish I could run away from the megacorps, but they dominate the market so I can’t. And these days I hate Google much more than Apple.

cutecycle@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 12:59 next collapse

it’s been a few years since I’ve used an iPhone, mainly because of the third party apps thing. Don’t these usually get shut down for violating Apple’s enterprise license agreement or something?

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 18:15 collapse

This uses the legal 3 testing app you can load via Xcode which is an Apple app. SideStore simply facilitates that process.

stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub on 20 Sep 2023 13:30 next collapse

A word of caution

These types of things are prime targets for malware and zero days have been on the rise for iPhones - I would highly suggest you carefully consider whether or not this would be worth compromising your phones security over.

There are lots and lots of ways to run emulators and roms these days, including buying a handheld game kit from canakit or something similiar, I’m sure, to run retropie which could emulate any number of retro systems with negligible risk to you, your device, your accounts or your private data. Just some food for thought.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 18:12 collapse

The code is open source for both Ignited and SideStore. You can check it on GitHub for SideStore and Ignited. The chance of malware in open source is much lower since you can decide to compile your own if you like.

You can also speak with the active devs on their Discord. There is much less chance of malware than by using Temu or TikTok…

stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub on 20 Sep 2023 20:26 collapse

While the likelihood is lesser, and open source technologies are helpful for finding bugs, they are not a guarantee and their degree of effectiveness is questionable. Especially with the rate at which AI continues to improve, making the likelihood that an AI could detect a vuln in the code and relay that info to a hacker much higher than before.

I’m a professional in this field, and have first hand experience with the matter. I understand you’d like to defend your post and the product but this is quite misleading.

I’m not saying this is a virus, but it increases the chances that you could get hacked, and you should consider if playing Pokémon on your phone is worth that risk. That is all.

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 2023 22:26 collapse

I understand what you say, but that could be said of any software you install. Like I said I have less faith installing Temu from the official AppStore than Ignited from the SideStore. Ai is definitely making things harder to oversee by its black box nature. Thake any software from the internet with the obvious care needed but this specific software doesn’t warrants any more warning than any other software you download then install. And the back that you can go through its code yourself allows to have actually a better understanding of what it will run on your device vs an AppStore where the only precaution is a footnote bullet point in the app’s page.

Prethoryn@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 01:44 next collapse

Student in IT with a digital forensics degree but, “that could be said with any software you install.” That’s not how security works you shouldn’t think about, “am I vulnerable because all software and hardware is vulnerable.” You should consider it like, “how likely am I at risk of being hacked with this software/hardware.” What is the trust worthiness.

Like consider this would you buy a gun from a stranger or from an official source. Which is likely to get you on a radar for a stolen weapon.

I absolutely love pokemon and I mean that with passion. I have an original, Gameboy, Gameboy SP, Nintendo DS, and 3DS with all of their corresponding Pokemon games, Crystal, Fire red, Leaf green, ruby, etc like genuinely love the game but I am absolutely wary of anything that runs well on iOS or Android unless I know where it is coming from.

While you might be fine what you should be aware of is that iOS doesn’t just always allow this kind of thing.

Additionally, compiling your own code from GitHub also doesn’t mean anything. Open Source is great but the chances of malware being less of a thing aren’t exactly true. I hope you enjoy the game but when their are actual security experts (I am not including myself in that category) telling you to be wary. I would consider those statements.

stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub on 21 Sep 2023 02:09 collapse

You’re still trying to muddy the waters here. Stop talking and start listening, please.

I am not making any claims about anything being better or worse. I’m laying out possible issues and the fact that this is an additional risk which may or may not be worth it.

All I’m doing is laying out the facts and letting people judge for themselves. Ik you like the product, but why are you trying to ride for them so hard? Why are you being so defensive over my relaying of information and warning others?

I’ll play ball.

First off, no Chinese app should be trusted at this point purely based off of chinas APT groups and corporate espionage. So, yes, fuck Temu too.

Second off, you’re zooming out to hide the facts of the details. Free games and emulator apps are statistically higher than baseline to either contain malware or will contain malware in the future (whether or not that’s because they got hacked or if the devs were always hackers - it does not matter. The fact remains it’s more risky)

Being able to go through the code is fine until you recognize that sometimes code accesses other code elsewhere that is not open source. Which means you don’t get to account for that when considering if the product is safe AND secure code.

I’m not going to keep arguing with you over this, it was a simple heads up about the statistical likelihood of such an app (which already is fucking bypassing apples secure store to get and requires a PC) being a threat to its users at some point or another. End of story

totallynotfbi@lemm.ee on 21 Sep 2023 01:51 next collapse

I’m using Delta myself, any reason why you chose Ignited over it? Might consider switching

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 11:16 collapse

It has some nice qol functions. My favorite is auto saving your state when you quit a game and re loads it when you come back. There are also more options for skins and other settings. Also my sync from google drive on delta loaded everything onto ignited seamlessly (note quick saves were not imported)

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 19:43 collapse

I’d rather play it on the 3DS, but it’s cool that you enjoy it your way :)

LazaroFilm@lemmy.world on 21 Sep 2023 20:03 collapse

If I had a 3DS. Also I have my phone with me at all time.