I remember we bought a third-party controller as an extra for our SNES back when that was a current system, but don’t remember the brand. We got it because it was less expensive than an official controller, but it also quickly became noticeably less reliable.
DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online
on 18 Jan 2024 07:02
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In recent years I’ve gotten a couple 8BitDo controllers that I love.
As a kid though I think I had one Wildcat controller for the N64 that I felt was lucky, but besides that I was never even aware of what brand my controllers were, it was just whatever you could convince your parents to buy you.
jordanlund@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 07:05
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helloharu@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 07:43
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My favourite of the Namco controllers has to be the Jogcon that was bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4. Outside of steering wheels, I’d never come across feedback like it until PS5’s adaptive triggers. Shame there were so few compatible games.
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on 18 Jan 2024 07:44
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sundray@lemmus.org
on 18 Jan 2024 07:22
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I was a big fan of the ASCII Grip back in the Playstation 1 days. Used to sit in my room all night playing Final Fantasy Tactics with one hand, and chain-smoking with the other. Not the best time in my life, but at least the controller was top notch.
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk
on 18 Jan 2024 07:55
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That controller was always something that I saw in magazines but never in stores. I really quite fancied one for point n click games like Broken Sword, Myst or Discworld. Taking up smoking would have just been a bonus!
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk
on 18 Jan 2024 07:50
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One if the better controllers I had for the Atari ST was the Quickshot Maverick 2 - it was rock solid, a good facsimile of an arcade controller, and took anything my younger hands could throw at it.
I had a Blaze controller for the PS1 that had a spring-loaded rotational control around the D-pad. Not a jogger style rotational dial like the JogCon, but one where you pushed it one way, and it returned itself to neutral, almost identical to the set up on the left half of this controller:
It was kinda cool and was designed for first person driving experiences to simulate “driving”, but it just approximated analogue inputs rather than be natively be an analogue input, so games like Formula 1 '97 were still rock hard to play.
I used the official Final Fantasy XIV controller as a daily driver too and it’s was brilliant, even if the drivers and configuration app was janky as anything.
I bought a replacement when the analogue sticks went tits up, but looking at their current price, maybe I’ll keep hold of it in it’s box…
CptEnder@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 15:25
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Oh interesting is that a USB DS2? I’m sure you can find 3rd party drivers for it like DS4Windows. It functions with other models like my DS5-E as well.
Sombyr@lemmy.zip
on 18 Jan 2024 07:58
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The Mad Catz Dreampad for the Dreamcast is the only 3rd party controller I’ve ever encountered that’s better than the original. Better grips, extra face buttons for fighters, a nicer analog stick. The whole thing just felt really high quality. The exact opposite of what you’d usually expect from Mad Catz.
Only issue is for whatever reason the white ones have a crooked d-pad. All the other colors are fine.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
on 19 Jan 2024 01:13
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Mad Catz will surprise you.
They got tapped to make the Rock Band keytar and they knocked it all the way out of the park by making a genuinely good midi controller that just happened to also be a video game controller.
Keep in mind, they could have phoned it in and not lost a cent, because what does Rock Band need? Four buttons? Red yellow green blue? Nope, here’s 25 velocity-aware keys and a DIN port, and that’s just for starters.
Here’s a decent write-up I found: https://cdm.link/2010/10/hands-on-rock-band-3s-keytar-a-surprisingly-serious-80-midi-keyboard/
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 08:29
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Define third party controller.
I have my Steel Battalion controller, which was required for the game. Best controller and gaming experience I have ever had. Worth every penny.
But does that count as a third party controller, especially since it can only play one game?
Regarding controllers that are more generic, I have found 8bitdo’s Pro+ pretty good, but I am not fond of the joystick placement. I had an Xbox One knock off controller that had the layout of a WiiU Pro controller and I loved that, but it was wired only and that was disappointing. I had a Wii Classic controller that was styled like a WiiU Pro controller and I liked that too, but it was only a Wii classic controller, and couldnt be used on basically anything other than the Wii (the vapor console Coleco Chameleon used images of it for its controller).
I have my Steel Battalion controller, which was required for the game. Best controller and gaming experience I have ever had. Worth every penny.
But does that count as a third party controller, especially since it can only play one game?
It’s technically 3rd party since it was not made by Microsoft. It also could be used in the follow-up to Steel Battalion, though wasn’t required for it so it was at least useful for 2 games :P
I wish I kept mine. I could have converted it to a PC device quite easily.
Maultasche@feddit.de
on 18 Jan 2024 11:59
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The N64 Hori Pad or he SNES Scoremaster. Not sure if the Scoremaster counts, as it’s an arcade stick but I really like how it looks like the console itself.
Instead of three grips like a normal n64 controller, it had two. It combined the left and middle grips into one. So the d pad, analog stick, L, and Z buttons were all on one grip. I don’t know how the economics would hold up today, but they were great for me back then.
It also had turbo buttons, which is always nice.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 13:30
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It was great because the 3 buttons that were around the diamond (a la GameCube) were programmable and supported macros. Made street fighter stupid easy.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net
on 18 Jan 2024 13:43
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The best 3rd party controllers I’ve had are the Logitech F310 for PC (any PC controller is technically 3rd party, right?) and some MadCatz thing for the N64… I can’t remember the model number but they were almost identical to the stock 1st party controllers with two distinct differences: they were thicker and they had better joysticks.
For the latter, I loved them because of the stick not the thickness. Back in those days, my siblings and friends all played a lot of WWF and Mario Party and those games took a heavy toll on the springs in the N64 controller. Eventually after a few sessions, the first party sticks were loose as fuck and barely functioned. Those MadCatz pads, however, were sturdy as fuck. You could full-palm the stick all day, every day and it would still snap back to center perfectly.
Mint_Raccoon@kbin.social
on 18 Jan 2024 16:18
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I'm happy with the 8bitdo controllers I've picked up. They're great if you like the official controllers, but want something wireless.
Agreed. The 2.4Ghz version of the M30 and the Neo Geo CD pad in particular are excellent.
sleepmode@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 16:45
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The Turbo Touch was ahead of its time. Had one for my Genesis. No more blisters.
SlapnutsGT@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 2024 20:01
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I had one for my snes I hated it lol
WhoDestroysTheGond@lemmy.ca
on 18 Jan 2024 20:09
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Agree, the lack of tactile feedback was awful. It’s like playing on a mobile phone screen today
sleepmode@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 2024 01:55
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The snes controller was fine as it was but the regular Genesis controller was incredibly balky. So the turbo was a step up until I got the 6-button. Definitely took a lot of time to get used to.
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Were any ever good? Is somebody making good ones now for old systems?
8Bitdo has controllers for the NES, SNES and Mega Drive/Genesis. They also sell a wireless dongle for the PlayStation.
Retro-bit, Retro Fighters, and Krikzz are a few more manufacturers I can think of making controllers with original ports.
In particular, Retro-bit’s Saturn Pro pad is…interesting, let’s say. I have also used Retro Fighters Striker Dreamcast pads - they’re quite nice.
In yonder days, a few companies like ASCII and Hori come up a lot for reliable stuff.
I remember we bought a third-party controller as an extra for our SNES back when that was a current system, but don’t remember the brand. We got it because it was less expensive than an official controller, but it also quickly became noticeably less reliable.
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In recent years I’ve gotten a couple 8BitDo controllers that I love.
As a kid though I think I had one Wildcat controller for the N64 that I felt was lucky, but besides that I was never even aware of what brand my controllers were, it was just whatever you could convince your parents to buy you.
Negcon for the Playstation:
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My favourite of the Namco controllers has to be the Jogcon that was bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4. Outside of steering wheels, I’d never come across feedback like it until PS5’s adaptive triggers. Shame there were so few compatible games.
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I was a big fan of the ASCII Grip back in the Playstation 1 days. Used to sit in my room all night playing Final Fantasy Tactics with one hand, and chain-smoking with the other. Not the best time in my life, but at least the controller was top notch.
That controller was always something that I saw in magazines but never in stores. I really quite fancied one for point n click games like Broken Sword, Myst or Discworld. Taking up smoking would have just been a bonus!
One if the better controllers I had for the Atari ST was the Quickshot Maverick 2 - it was rock solid, a good facsimile of an arcade controller, and took anything my younger hands could throw at it.
I had a Blaze controller for the PS1 that had a spring-loaded rotational control around the D-pad. Not a jogger style rotational dial like the JogCon, but one where you pushed it one way, and it returned itself to neutral, almost identical to the set up on the left half of this controller:
<img alt="" src="https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/3da53f76-3ad4-46ee-ab5d-e6e871e2e5de.jpeg">
It was kinda cool and was designed for first person driving experiences to simulate “driving”, but it just approximated analogue inputs rather than be natively be an analogue input, so games like Formula 1 '97 were still rock hard to play.
I used the official Final Fantasy XIV controller as a daily driver too and it’s was brilliant, even if the drivers and configuration app was janky as anything.
I bought a replacement when the analogue sticks went tits up, but looking at their current price, maybe I’ll keep hold of it in it’s box…
Oh interesting is that a USB DS2? I’m sure you can find 3rd party drivers for it like DS4Windows. It functions with other models like my DS5-E as well.
The Mad Catz Dreampad for the Dreamcast is the only 3rd party controller I’ve ever encountered that’s better than the original. Better grips, extra face buttons for fighters, a nicer analog stick. The whole thing just felt really high quality. The exact opposite of what you’d usually expect from Mad Catz.
Only issue is for whatever reason the white ones have a crooked d-pad. All the other colors are fine.
Mad Catz will surprise you.
They got tapped to make the Rock Band keytar and they knocked it all the way out of the park by making a genuinely good midi controller that just happened to also be a video game controller.
Keep in mind, they could have phoned it in and not lost a cent, because what does Rock Band need? Four buttons? Red yellow green blue? Nope, here’s 25 velocity-aware keys and a DIN port, and that’s just for starters.
Here’s a decent write-up I found: https://cdm.link/2010/10/hands-on-rock-band-3s-keytar-a-surprisingly-serious-80-midi-keyboard/
Define third party controller.
I have my Steel Battalion controller, which was required for the game. Best controller and gaming experience I have ever had. Worth every penny.
But does that count as a third party controller, especially since it can only play one game?
Regarding controllers that are more generic, I have found 8bitdo’s Pro+ pretty good, but I am not fond of the joystick placement. I had an Xbox One knock off controller that had the layout of a WiiU Pro controller and I loved that, but it was wired only and that was disappointing. I had a Wii Classic controller that was styled like a WiiU Pro controller and I liked that too, but it was only a Wii classic controller, and couldnt be used on basically anything other than the Wii (the vapor console Coleco Chameleon used images of it for its controller).
It’s technically 3rd party since it was not made by Microsoft. It also could be used in the follow-up to Steel Battalion, though wasn’t required for it so it was at least useful for 2 games :P
I wish I kept mine. I could have converted it to a PC device quite easily.
The N64 Hori Pad or he SNES Scoremaster. Not sure if the Scoremaster counts, as it’s an arcade stick but I really like how it looks like the console itself.
<img alt="" src="https://preview.redd.it/woqod4gr3v111.jpg?auto=webp&s=7f9f9adaeea06194200e1ed666ecece10722f720">
<img alt="" src="https://image.konsolenkost.de/item/images/9900104/full/9900104-0_1.jpg">
Wow that SNES controller has DS5-E level of functions
I loved this thing as a kid oldschoolgamermagazine.com/crazy-controllers-the-…
Instead of three grips like a normal n64 controller, it had two. It combined the left and middle grips into one. So the d pad, analog stick, L, and Z buttons were all on one grip. I don’t know how the economics would hold up today, but they were great for me back then.
It also had turbo buttons, which is always nice.
My fav was the SNProgrampad
It was great because the 3 buttons that were around the diamond (a la GameCube) were programmable and supported macros. Made street fighter stupid easy.
<img alt="" src="https://i.imgur.com/FtyACde.jpg">
The best 3rd party controllers I’ve had are the Logitech F310 for PC (any PC controller is technically 3rd party, right?) and some MadCatz thing for the N64… I can’t remember the model number but they were almost identical to the stock 1st party controllers with two distinct differences: they were thicker and they had better joysticks.
For the latter, I loved them because of the stick not the thickness. Back in those days, my siblings and friends all played a lot of WWF and Mario Party and those games took a heavy toll on the springs in the N64 controller. Eventually after a few sessions, the first party sticks were loose as fuck and barely functioned. Those MadCatz pads, however, were sturdy as fuck. You could full-palm the stick all day, every day and it would still snap back to center perfectly.
I'm happy with the 8bitdo controllers I've picked up. They're great if you like the official controllers, but want something wireless.
Agreed. The 2.4Ghz version of the M30 and the Neo Geo CD pad in particular are excellent.
The Turbo Touch was ahead of its time. Had one for my Genesis. No more blisters.
I had one for my snes I hated it lol
Agree, the lack of tactile feedback was awful. It’s like playing on a mobile phone screen today
The snes controller was fine as it was but the regular Genesis controller was incredibly balky. So the turbo was a step up until I got the 6-button. Definitely took a lot of time to get used to.
NES Advantage although technically that’s not a 3rd party.