CitizenKong@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 20:42
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I know the second is the groundbreaking one, but I always had a soft spot for this one.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 20:48
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And while Dune 2 laid much of the initial groundwork for early real-time strategy games, I highly advise anyone from current times who is interested to play Dune 2000 instead. If you ask me, the original Command and Conquer (same developers, Westwood) is the actual genesis of the modern RTS, and Dune 2000 is built on the Command and Conquer engine and is this significantly less clunky and irritating to actually play.
And it’s got John Rhys-Davies in the cutscenes. You can’t really go wrong there.
UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk
on 08 Mar 2024 21:46
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I loved the FMV cut scenes in Westwood Studios games. They always managed to get a minor celebrity as the games got bigger.
They also made a really good Diablo style game called Nox.
tarmac@lemmy.world
on 08 Mar 2024 21:53
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Agreed Dune 2000 is a better experience with better quality of life mechanics but Dune 2 was definitely the actual genesis of modern rts, compared to C&C. All amazing games. Dune 2, for its time, but it’s definitely aged at this point I’m with you there.
kakes@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Mar 2024 23:42
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prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Mar 2024 23:05
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I mean … Warcraft Orcs & Humans came out before c&c
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 10 Mar 2024 00:45
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Warcraft, especially the first one, was quite archiac compared to C&C.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Mar 2024 04:11
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Command & Conquer released 2 months before Warcraft 2.
Dune was the genesis of the RTS and while command and conquer was fun it ultimately lost out to Warcraft / StarCraft
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 10 Mar 2024 13:09
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No one is arguing which game came out first. I didn’t say C&C was the first game. I said C&C was the first one to nail the modern RTS format, and because of that I think Dune 2000 is a less irritating game to play from a modern perspective than Dune 2.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Mar 2024 13:46
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And I’m simply stating otherwise.
C&C came after Warcraft and released effectively alongside Warcraft 2 which I would personally argue was the best rts entry at the time.
And given that the Warcraft/starcraft franchise lasted and command and conquer died off I’d personally argue that history points that way also but again, just my opinion.
Im a huge fan of the Warcraft rts games but you are right. Especially the first Warcraft felt like an ancient game compared to the first C&C, the controls were horrific (no right clicking on resources to send peons to it lol).
iAvicenna@lemmy.world
on 10 Mar 2024 14:02
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god damn it, pixel art is so much better looking than 3d models that it is ridiculous sometimes. I feel like we as a species are evolving into the wrong local minima wrt to computer graphics.
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I know the second is the groundbreaking one, but I always had a soft spot for this one.
And while Dune 2 laid much of the initial groundwork for early real-time strategy games, I highly advise anyone from current times who is interested to play Dune 2000 instead. If you ask me, the original Command and Conquer (same developers, Westwood) is the actual genesis of the modern RTS, and Dune 2000 is built on the Command and Conquer engine and is this significantly less clunky and irritating to actually play.
And it’s got John Rhys-Davies in the cutscenes. You can’t really go wrong there.
I loved the FMV cut scenes in Westwood Studios games. They always managed to get a minor celebrity as the games got bigger.
They also made a really good Diablo style game called Nox.
Agreed Dune 2000 is a better experience with better quality of life mechanics but Dune 2 was definitely the actual genesis of modern rts, compared to C&C. All amazing games. Dune 2, for its time, but it’s definitely aged at this point I’m with you there.
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FOSS recreation of the oldschool C&C games + Dune 2000.
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I mean … Warcraft Orcs & Humans came out before c&c
Warcraft, especially the first one, was quite archiac compared to C&C.
Command & Conquer released 2 months before Warcraft 2.
Dune was the
genesisof the RTS and while command and conquer was fun it ultimately lost out to Warcraft / StarCraftNo one is arguing which game came out first. I didn’t say C&C was the first game. I said C&C was the first one to nail the modern RTS format, and because of that I think Dune 2000 is a less irritating game to play from a modern perspective than Dune 2.
And I’m simply stating otherwise.
C&C came after Warcraft and released effectively alongside Warcraft 2 which I would personally argue was the best rts entry at the time.
And given that the Warcraft/starcraft franchise lasted and command and conquer died off I’d personally argue that history points that way also but again, just my opinion.
Im a huge fan of the Warcraft rts games but you are right. Especially the first Warcraft felt like an ancient game compared to the first C&C, the controls were horrific (no right clicking on resources to send peons to it lol).
god damn it, pixel art is so much better looking than 3d models that it is ridiculous sometimes. I feel like we as a species are evolving into the wrong local minima wrt to computer graphics.