Counterfeit PS1 Games Are All Over AliExpress (www.retronews.com)
from Kain1@lemmy.world to retrogaming@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 13:02
https://lemmy.world/post/20131491

There has been a significant increase in fake PlayStation 1 discs being sold on AliExpress, a well-known online marketplace.

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sirico@feddit.uk on 24 Sep 13:07 next collapse

Facebook marketplace intensifies

ClipperDefiance@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 13:13 next collapse

Wouldn’t these not work on an unmodified PlayStation without an exploit? The system has copy protection that’s specifically meant to prevent bootlegs from running. Did they figure something out to bypass that like on the Dreamcast that I don’t know about?

Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 24 Sep 14:01 next collapse

They totally might have figured something out. Hell, they could have gotten a hold of some of Sony’s original disc-pressing hardware to reproduce the copy protection. It really is the Wild West when it comes to these retailers

Toes@ani.social on 24 Sep 14:20 collapse

The last time I looked into it. The copy protection was fairly trivial to circumvent on the PS1.

So I’d imagine they probably work fine. But I haven’t tried these bootlegs myself so I can’t say for certain.

sirico@feddit.uk on 24 Sep 16:07 next collapse

Yeah, One of my I was smarter when I was younger moments was creating a boot swap by fixing the lid button down and using a cheat CD that came with a magazine

Peffse@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 18:55 collapse

I thought it was trivial to circumvent but difficult to duplicate?

Last I recall (though I admit this was years ago) the wobble groove can’t be burned and has to be pressed into the disc… which is why despite it being nearly 30 years old now, you still have to modchip to play anything unofficial.

MossyFeathers@pawb.social on 24 Sep 13:32 next collapse

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Maybe if you weren’t scalping price gouging that shit then there wouldn’t be a market for knockoffs. Personally, I don’t care if I have a knockoff or the real deal anymore. As long as I and the console can’t tell the difference, who cares?

xyzzy@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 13:40 collapse

What exactly is your definition of scalping in this case

MossyFeathers@pawb.social on 24 Sep 13:49 collapse

Sorry, wrong term. Price gouging. The market is absurd and most of it is thanks to WATA’s pump-and-dump shit.

xyzzy@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 16:15 collapse

For PS1?

www.pricecharting.com/console/playstation?sort=hi…

95% of games are below $60, and the vast majority of those are below $20.

You might mean “more than I’m willing to pay,” but it’s a market. There are millions of copies of certain titles, so no one is cornering the market. People are just willing to pay more than you. In the case of PS1, maybe $10-20 more. No one is getting rich from that.

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 14:34 next collapse

90% of everything on AliExpress is counterfeit.

Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Sep 14:54 next collapse

Why is anyone susprised about this? This is the most predictable outcome.

Then again, you’d probably already have a jailbroken PS1 to play copied games, you could burn them yourself. Or emulate, it’s so easy to emulate PS1 nowadays. No need to spend money importing those copies from China.

MajorHavoc@programming.dev on 24 Sep 16:32 next collapse

I’m also in the “I don’t care” camp.

A lot of us just want a piece of nostalgia that the big companies choose not to produce.

If it looks close enough that it inspires my happy nostalgia, and it plays fine in my console, that’s what I’m happy to pay for.

If the license holders are still selling the game, I’m happy to buy from them. If not, I’m happy to buy from someone else producing reasonable facsimilies (of abandonware games).

I get how someone could be upset if they thought they were getting the real thing.

I haven’t, personally, felt misled by makers of abandonware facimilies.

magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org on 25 Sep 14:58 collapse

I have no issue when its marked, or put on a site like alibaba where there are tons of cheap shit for the cost you’d expect from a cheap repro.

Putting it on eBay for full price is a dick move.

MajorHavoc@programming.dev on 25 Sep 15:40 collapse

Putting it on eBay for full price is a dick move.

Agreed. That’s just fraud.

daggermoon@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 18:47 next collapse

Do these actually work on unmolded consoles?

kautau@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 19:00 collapse

I imagine if the legacy silicon hardware is straight from the factory the shape of the plastic doesn’t really matter too much

In all seriousness, afaik not unless they can replicate the wobble groove pressed into the discs, which is possible if they can press their own discs in bulk, but probably more expensive than it’s worth unless they are selling a ton of these

otp@sh.itjust.works on 25 Sep 00:14 collapse

Hmm…if the price of retro games lowers, I’ll be more likely to get good deals…

But I’ll be in a worse position if I ever need to sell parts of my existing collection…