Are Rust errors are so verbose or its just me?
from iso@lemy.lol to rust@programming.dev on 22 Nov 2023 21:53
https://lemy.lol/post/14885040

Especially the errors related to traits are very difficult to me. Is there a trick? Will I get used to it? Or am I just a failure? :D

Like WTH is this?

the trait bound ‘(diesel::sql_types::Uuid, diesel::sql_types::Text, diesel::sql_types::Nullable, diesel::sql_types::Timestamp, diesel::sql_types::Timestamp): diesel::query_dsl::CompatibleType’ is not satisfied the following other types implement trait ‘diesel::query_dsl::CompatibleType’: (ST0,) (ST0, ST1) (ST0, ST1, ST2) (ST0, ST1, ST2, ST3) (ST0, ST1, ST2, ST3, ST4) (ST0, ST1, ST2, ST3, ST4, ST5) (ST0, ST1, ST2, ST3, ST4, ST5, ST6) (ST0, ST1, ST2, ST3, ST4, ST5, ST6, ST7) and 24 others required for ‘SelectStatement, DefaultSelectClause>, NoDistinctClause, …, …, …>’ to implement ‘diesel_async::methods::LoadQuery<’_, _, models::Artist>

Or this:

the variant or associated item ‘as_select’ exists for enum ‘Option<Image>’, but its trait bounds were not satisfied the following trait bounds were not satisfied: ‘std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::Selectable<_>’ which is required by ‘std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::SelectableHelper<_>’ ‘&std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::Selectable<_>’ which is required by ‘&std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::SelectableHelper<_>’ ‘&mut std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::Selectable<_>’ which is required by ‘&mut std::option::Option<models::Image>: diesel::SelectableHelper<_>’

or this:

the trait bound ‘schema::image::columns::id: diesel::SelectableExpression<schema::artist::table>’ is not satisfied the following other types implement trait ‘diesel::SelectableExpression<QS>’: <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<diesel::query_source::joins::Join<Left, Right, diesel::query_source::joins::Inner>>> <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<diesel::query_source::joins::Join<Left, Right, diesel::query_source::joins::LeftOuter>>> <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<schema::image::table>> <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<diesel::query_builder::SelectStatement<diesel::query_builder::FromClause<From>>>> <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<diesel::query_source::joins::JoinOn<Join, On>>> <schema::image::columns::id as diesel::SelectableExpression<diesel::query_builder::Only<schema::image::table>>> required for ‘(id, url, width, height, color, updated_at, created_at)’ to implement ‘diesel::SelectableExpression<schema::artist::table>’ the full type name has been written to ‘./target/debug/deps/server-25bcf4cf7c62d3bf.long-type-2030200755981097212.txt’ 3 redundant requirements hidden required for ‘(diesel::expression::select_by::SelectBy<models::Artist, _>, diesel::expression::select_by::SelectBy<std::option::Option<models::Image>, _>)’ to implement ‘diesel::SelectableExpression<schema::artist::table>’ required for ‘SelectStatement<FromClause<table>, DefaultSelectClause<FromClause<table>>, NoDistinctClause, WhereClause<…>>’ to implement ‘diesel::query_dsl::methods::SelectDsl<(diesel::expression::select_by::SelectBy<models::Artist, _>, diesel::expression::select_by::SelectBy<std::option::Option<models::Image>, _>)>’ the full type name has been written to ‘./target/debug/deps/server-25bcf4cf7c62d3bf.long-type-3023492822805157679.txt’

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hascat@programming.dev on 22 Nov 2023 22:16 next collapse

C++ has had the same style of obtuse errors for decades. They can be a real pain to figure out even if you are used to seeing them.

FizzyOrange@programming.dev on 22 Nov 2023 22:27 next collapse

These long confusing errors are near universal in languages / libraries that have complex types. You get the same thing in C++ code that uses template metaprogramming e.g. Eigen.

It is quite annoying but I don’t really know of a solution other than using a library that doesn’t express full expressions as types.

Chumsky does something similar but it also has a .boxed() modifier you can use to type erase the types at strategic points to keep them a manageable size. I believe Xylem is going to do the same with its statically typed widget tree. Maybe Diesel offers something like that?

BB_C@programming.dev on 22 Nov 2023 22:33 next collapse

  • I take slight issue with your title. Such diesel errors are not your average Rust error.
  • Looking at the first example, you should have quickly realized that lack of kind abstractions over types (lol no HKTs) since Rust v1.0 is contributing to the verbosity. Maybe in a few years, with features like GATs maturing, expanding in scope, and being used more in the ecosystem, things will get better!
iso@lemy.lol on 22 Nov 2023 22:39 collapse

I usually get errors close in size to this but at the moment I had a diesel to send. I kind of figuring out the problems but it takes time and a few hairs :)

Anders429@programming.dev on 24 Nov 2023 19:05 next collapse

Diesel is well-known for having some of the worst errors in the ecosystem. This is far from the rule.

philm@programming.dev on 24 Nov 2023 20:41 collapse

Indeed, and the maintainer opened this RFC (I think because of it)

crispy_kilt@feddit.de on 03 Dec 2023 17:04 collapse

I’d rather have long errors and a great type system instead of short errors and a shit type system.