75% of US scientists who answered Nature poll consider leaving
(www.nature.com)
from Ninjazzon@infosec.pub to science@mander.xyz on 28 Mar 15:18
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from Ninjazzon@infosec.pub to science@mander.xyz on 28 Mar 15:18
https://infosec.pub/post/25739629
The massive changes in US research brought about by the new administration of President Donald Trump are causing many scientists in the country to rethink their lives and careers. More than 1,200 scientists who responded to a Nature poll — three-quarters of the total respondents — are considering leaving the United States following the disruptions prompted by Trump. Europe and Canada were among the top choices for relocation.
The trend was particularly pronounced among early-career researchers. Of the 690 postgraduate researchers who responded, 548 were considering leaving; 255 of 340 PhD students said the same.
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“Consider” is such a low threshold that this doesn’t mean much.
It doesn’t necessarily mean that 75% of scientists are going to leave, but it certainly means something
Whoever gets these remnants will be growing faster than their peers, most likely will be china, and either a shared EU group or individual member states like Spain, France, Italy, Poland and Germany
It’s a very worrying signal for the US, whichever threshold you use.
Consider really just means “If I was given a good offer.” Considering European countries have been discussing giving offers, it could really mean quite a bit.
EU seeking talented scientists amid US funding woes March 24, 2025
Science ministers from 13 countries in Europe are calling on the European Union to offer a home to researchers affected by the Trump Administration’s cuts. They have written to EU research and innovation commissioner Ekaterina Zaharieva asking her to organize a welcome “for brilliant talents from abroad who might suffer from research interference and ill-motivated and brutal funding cuts.” (via: bioworld.com/…/718598-eu-seeking-talented-scienti…)
The irony of history. Scientists escaped from Nazism and Fascism to the USA almost a century ago. Now the same is happening again, for similar reasons, in the reverse direction.
history doesnt repeat but it often rhymes.
Not sure America will be imperialist, but we definitely will see a monumental shift in global relations towards the US and how the US will have to invent itself again.
I doubt they will remain having their arms in every other country like these years. Maybe some more nerdy tech sectors like operating systems, but hopefully not even social media and other services like maps and search engines - thats my hope at least too
I think that unless the US really really overhauls ALL of itself, government, legal and police, military, healthcare, education, all of it, nobody will ever trust it ever again with anything, it will forever stand alone