Sleeping pills stop the brain’s system for cleaning out waste (arstechnica.com)
from pelespirit@sh.itjust.works to science@mander.xyz on 21 Jan 2025 19:52
https://sh.itjust.works/post/31462941

Her study found the glymphatic clearance was mediated by a hormone called norepinephrine and happened almost exclusively during the NREM sleep phase. But it only worked when sleep was natural. Anesthesia and sleeping pills shut this process down nearly completely.

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Gullible@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jan 2025 20:20 next collapse

This has been fairly well known for at least 15 years among medi-academia. But discovering the specific pathways involved leaves me (femininely) turgid

nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz on 22 Jan 2025 21:01 collapse

Obviously I understand what femininely turgid means but can you explain it just in case somebody else doesn’t know?

scarabic@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 22:00 collapse

ie: ladyboner, the old slip n slide, juices flowing, mine honeypot overfloweth

nomy@lemmy.zip on 22 Jan 2025 23:33 collapse

Like a lil cashew down there.

anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Jan 2025 20:31 next collapse

I wonder if ketamine has the same effect, he asked apropos of nothing…

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 21 Jan 2025 20:33 collapse

Anesthesia

yes

MossyFeathers@pawb.social on 21 Jan 2025 21:36 collapse

Actually maybe not? Iirc most “traditional” anesthesia basically knocks you down to the bare minimum of brain activity to remain alive and reliably regain consciousness (which is why being under anesthesia is usually a “blink and you miss it” ordeal, your brain isn’t active enough to be aware that time has passed).

However, if I’m not mistaken, stuff like ketamine or nitrous don’t do that, and sedate you in a manner more similar to natural sleep.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social on 21 Jan 2025 20:48 next collapse

Fuck.

Now what?

RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 02:17 next collapse

That usually helps me sleep better too

scarabic@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 22:02 collapse

Plenty of things to try.

youtu.be/lIo9FcrljDk?si=OOCPIQO7e9r_Oemw

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 21 Jan 2025 20:54 next collapse

The study was only on zolpidem. IMO it can probably be generalised to other Z drugs, and possibly benzos. Drugs that work by entirely different mechanisms like melatonin and orexin antagonists could be completely different.

__nobodynowhere@lemm.ee on 21 Jan 2025 21:16 collapse

What about Benadryl?

rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee on 21 Jan 2025 22:25 next collapse

The hat man cleans your brain for you.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 21 Jan 2025 22:48 collapse

Unknown, but it’s an anticholinergic, and those are associated with dementia.

Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win on 21 Jan 2025 21:25 next collapse

Apparently the water supply in my town is dosed with sleeping pills.

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jan 2025 21:31 collapse

Honestly, it might be. When people pee, that toilet water goes somewhere.

Drugs found in Puget Sound salmon from tainted wastewater

workerONE@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 01:21 next collapse

What about alcohol?

Agent641@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 05:02 next collapse

Fucks you up

rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Jan 2025 05:15 collapse

Then gets you really sleepy

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 22 Jan 2025 18:18 collapse

Being knocked out is not sleep.

TypicalHog@lemm.ee on 22 Jan 2025 18:13 next collapse

Suppresses dreams and dreams are apparently good and needed for a healthy brain.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 22 Jan 2025 18:18 collapse

Se thing as any other substance

Weed too

workerONE@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 21:43 collapse

What about sniffing glue?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 22 Jan 2025 21:45 collapse

That shit don't last long enough?

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Jan 2025 03:38 next collapse

Eff. I require sleeping pills. I guess I can look forward to a melted brain in old age.

Hackworth@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 04:37 next collapse

You need healthy, natural sleep. Chew some valerian root and get more exercise.

TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 04:58 next collapse

I wonder what melatonin does

Agent641@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 05:01 next collapse

Forget melatonin, I want to know wtf cheese is doing to my brain when I sleep on it.

TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 05:23 next collapse

Charlie Kelly… who taught you about Lemmy?

DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 08:04 collapse

Im pretty sure cat food and spray paint shut down m9re than just the NREM cycle in the brain…

SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 21:38 collapse

Probably just stick to the side of your head.

Have you tried eating the cheese instead?

TypicalHog@lemm.ee on 22 Jan 2025 18:13 collapse

It’s a natural hormone brain produces that signals to the body that it’s zzz time.

TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 23:12 collapse

I love it for bedtime and it helps my autoimmune shit. Glad it’s not brain bad.

otp@sh.itjust.works on 24 Jan 2025 00:50 collapse

Aside from possibly becoming a dependency, I’d imagine it doesn’t interfere with sleep quality. It’s what builds up in your body to make you sleepy/fall asleep.

Too much might keep you groggy in the morning though.

flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Jan 2025 05:20 next collapse

I have ADHD. Without drugs, I only sleep during the day, and sometimes, I’ll skip a day and feel like crap about it no matter what I do.

I mean without drugs. I used to be an all-natural whackadoo.

Nowadays I do drugs about it and I’m allowed to be a real human. Guess my brain will clean itself when I die.

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works on 22 Jan 2025 16:45 next collapse

Be careful about assuming that your drugs are what they’re talking about. Yours sound like they’re balancing you out. They could be cleaning out your brain. Make sure to look at the study carefully.

ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2025 18:08 collapse

you probably just need fresh nutrients

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 22 Jan 2025 18:17 next collapse

Alcohol and weed does the same thing, just because you are out. Doesn't mean you are sleeping.

Good to see this common sense being confirmed

otp@sh.itjust.works on 24 Jan 2025 00:47 collapse

I wouldn’t even call it common sense. I remember being taught like 20 years ago that we don’t even know for sure why we need to sleep (aside from the fact that we get tired and sleep is pretty good at helping with that).

intensely_human@lemm.ee on 22 Jan 2025 23:44 collapse

If you want your brain to clean out waste at night, you need to be taking sweeping pills.