This. Most classes in uni allowed us to have a limited number of cheat sheets and after writing them I rarely used them. Open book exams are a different beast though.
I take certification exams that are open book. I still create an index aka cheat sheet because typing it out makes me internalize what I’m reading. It’s also easier to refer to an index of a couple of pages vs several books in a time-bound exam.
One of my math professors would always ask if people wanted an open book take home exam or an in person exam. Those who had taken his classes before knew to never vote for the take home open book, but were always outweighed by the new folks. Hardest exams I took in college by a large margin
Ehh moreso that the expectations of the student with all possible resources available are much higher than an in person exam from rote. Some proofs on the in person exam would be trivial as they were similar to ones in the textbook. Take home proofs could go several pages and require you to extrapolate from what was learned so far.
I understand the “lesson” he’s teaching them and also understand that open book tests should be harder.
Point is that he’s tricking them. Or letting them trick themselves. That’s not what a friend or trusted adult would do. That’s what an adversary would do.
He has power over these kids in a big way and should be honest and up front about the reality of the situation.
nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz
on 08 Jun 17:57
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In college everybody knows that open book exams are harder
As someone who spent a few years teaching math, this would be a cause for celebration! I would have had a classroom pizza party the next day. This is creative usage of problem solving math that I could only dream about a classroom of students could come up with.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 22:32
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Depends on the class.
I had a statistics course that allowed us one single sided page, but as long as your printer could handle infinitely small print, she didn’t care if you had magnification. You could hypothetically have keychain bible print for your entire book as a cheat sheet, it just wouldn’t help you in the allotted time.
My cheat sheet for R was nothing but codes because I’m not a coder at all (R and basic Linux are my entire coding experience, and it was fucking miserable) and that helped if I remembered to label the fucking codes. And LOL nope.
But I cheated in other classes by doing such nonsense as writing vocab on my shoes… in college language courses, which I paid for myself… so dumb and counter productive.
I was never smart enough to cheat in regular school… I just brute forced the work… ironyyyyyyyyy
white_nrdy@programming.dev
on 08 Jun 13:01
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Reminds me of a final exam in university (engineering course) where the Prof said we could use one double sided sheet. I wrote it in red and blue pen and brought 3D glasses. It was helpful for duplicate things with different info like some tables. I barely used it, but I thought it was clever and funny
Holy shit. Ok I’m gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 06 Jun 17:25
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Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit.
RattlerSix@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 12:27
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That’s how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there’s this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process.
You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn’t actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy
Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990’s. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn’t hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all.
Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don't make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside?
RattlerSix@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 13:14
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The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can’t really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something
This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either.
Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don’t bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface.
Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don’t roll easily on a level floor.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 13:54
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As you’ve been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI
Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I’m aware this particular pic is AI gen. I’m referring to OP’s statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn’t really take away from my main point.
I’m not buying that given the second half of your comment. You’re just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 14:32
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The freaking discussion showing the source and that it’s AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I’ve clarified my meaning and if you’ve never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you.
How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph.
On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 14:35
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Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I’m just referring to your statement about the axle. I’m aware the pic itself is AI gen.
receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist.
What kind of logic is that? So let’s just contribute to make things worse for them?
No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either.
My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine.
Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage “crushes” it self.
jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 13:45
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Telltales: floor too shiny, machines on the sides dont make sense, inconsistencies in piping in the ceiling, random floating bits on the top right, a few big shadows that dont match the windows instead of many smaller ones
I think the joke here is the one sided part. Paper sheet has two sides.
The shape student is using is called möbious strip and its pretty famous mathematical object for being shape with only one plane. Another one is Klein bottle and im sure there are other ones too.
General_Effort@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 18:21
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How else are you going to have a 1-sided sheet?
Hmm. Would the surface of a sphere qualify as a sheet? But I feel that is cheating. The inside would count as another side if you could only get to it.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de
on 08 Jun 08:43
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Not if the sphere is solid!
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
on 08 Jun 05:18
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I would allow it, it’s brilliant. The main learning benefit of cheat sheets comes from writing them, not from using them.
A great teacher would surreptitiously plant the idea to do this.
This. Most classes in uni allowed us to have a limited number of cheat sheets and after writing them I rarely used them. Open book exams are a different beast though.
I take certification exams that are open book. I still create an index aka cheat sheet because typing it out makes me internalize what I’m reading. It’s also easier to refer to an index of a couple of pages vs several books in a time-bound exam.
One of my math professors would always ask if people wanted an open book take home exam or an in person exam. Those who had taken his classes before knew to never vote for the take home open book, but were always outweighed by the new folks. Hardest exams I took in college by a large margin
Sounds kinda adversarial from the teachers perspective.
Ehh moreso that the expectations of the student with all possible resources available are much higher than an in person exam from rote. Some proofs on the in person exam would be trivial as they were similar to ones in the textbook. Take home proofs could go several pages and require you to extrapolate from what was learned so far.
I understand the “lesson” he’s teaching them and also understand that open book tests should be harder.
Point is that he’s tricking them. Or letting them trick themselves. That’s not what a friend or trusted adult would do. That’s what an adversary would do.
He has power over these kids in a big way and should be honest and up front about the reality of the situation.
In college everybody knows that open book exams are harder
As someone who spent a few years teaching math, this would be a cause for celebration! I would have had a classroom pizza party the next day. This is creative usage of problem solving math that I could only dream about a classroom of students could come up with.
Depends on the class.
I had a statistics course that allowed us one single sided page, but as long as your printer could handle infinitely small print, she didn’t care if you had magnification. You could hypothetically have keychain bible print for your entire book as a cheat sheet, it just wouldn’t help you in the allotted time.
My cheat sheet for R was nothing but codes because I’m not a coder at all (R and basic Linux are my entire coding experience, and it was fucking miserable) and that helped if I remembered to label the fucking codes. And LOL nope.
But I cheated in other classes by doing such nonsense as writing vocab on my shoes… in college language courses, which I paid for myself… so dumb and counter productive.
I was never smart enough to cheat in regular school… I just brute forced the work… ironyyyyyyyyy
Reminds me of a final exam in university (engineering course) where the Prof said we could use one double sided sheet. I wrote it in red and blue pen and brought 3D glasses. It was helpful for duplicate things with different info like some tables. I barely used it, but I thought it was clever and funny
First mistake was to not specify a sheet size
<img alt="Large industrial size roll of paper" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/96d7dd8d-4543-4b88-9465-8a2b00104117.jpeg">
This image… I don’t know if it is AI or it isn’t… but it certainly feels like AI…
Edit: it is AI generated, completely missed the genAI tag on the Adobe Stock website, and [4] is not a ton like I thought, it’s 307kg
It’s listed on Adobe Stock photos[1]
I did find other similar photos[2][3] so it looks like it’s an actual thing that exists. Actually found a listing for a 1 metric ton roll of it[4].
[1] stock.adobe.com/fr/images/…/689500501
[2] dreamstime.com/large-rolls-paper-cardboard-produc…
[3] www.alamy.com/stock-photo/large-paper-rolls.html
[4] m.kraftpaper-rolls.com/sale-11507857-100gsm-envir…
[2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says '307kg'.
The Adobe stock photos link says its generated.
Holy shit. Ok I’m gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos.
Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit.
That’s how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there’s this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process.
You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn’t actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a7fc6655-7e4e-4a53-a563-19d4fc7ff42b.jpeg">
Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990’s. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn’t hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all.
Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don't make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside?
It’s getting ready to be lifted like this: www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-producti…
The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can’t really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something
The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French.
stock.adobe.com/fr/images/…/689500501
This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either.
Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don’t bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface.
Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don’t roll easily on a level floor.
As you’ve been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI
Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I’m aware this particular pic is AI gen. I’m referring to OP’s statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn’t really take away from my main point.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/72083f0d-4216-4b90-84b3-29f68cd3b046.png">
I was referring to OP’s statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice.
I’m not buying that given the second half of your comment. You’re just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising.
The freaking discussion showing the source and that it’s AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I’ve clarified my meaning and if you’ve never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you.
How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph.
On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist.
Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I’m just referring to your statement about the axle. I’m aware the pic itself is AI gen.
What kind of logic is that? So let’s just contribute to make things worse for them?
No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either.
My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine.
Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage “crushes” it self.
Telltales: floor too shiny, machines on the sides dont make sense, inconsistencies in piping in the ceiling, random floating bits on the top right, a few big shadows that dont match the windows instead of many smaller ones
The spacing on the lights up top is super weird. AI seems to have a real problem recreating consistent repeated patterns.
Wonky floor hole shape is what made me certain, didn’t look too close at first and thought it was photoshopped.
OK, based on the comments, it’s AI.
This one isn’t. A sheet of paper from mythbusters.
<img alt="" src="https://therealsasha.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/paper-mythbusters.jpg">
wasn’t that foil?
No, that’s from trying to fold paper more than 7 times.
You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon?
ah yeah
Looks a lot larger than A1 tbh
Something something sheets are planar, but then also allow it because it’s great.
Should get bonus points.
Are you, by any chance, subscribed to Kyle? 🧐
Yes, and I shamelessly stole it because it belongs here too!
Oh definitely! 🤭
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c54ba96a-1964-46ad-b658-4be9db9f56a2.png">
Should have specified that the paper must also be orientable
I think that might be racist.
At the very least spaciesist.
Definitively dimensionist.
Heard of someone writing in multiple colours and using tinted transparent plastic sheets to read it.
Clever
I wouldn’t even be mad. As long as they could explain what a Mobius Strip is, they can use it.
just points
Id only allow it if it was a seamless piece of paper (not taped together) lol
i don’t think that’s fair because such papers don’t exist
Glue and lots of patience and skill and it can.
so tape isn’t allowed but glue is?
Just weld the paper. Problem solved.
You kids and your topology.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/6f20010b-763e-4192-9759-52065c294026.png">
I’m no math teacher but I’d call that worth extra credit!
I mean, defining the cheat sheet limitation in such a way for Math students is really just asking for it …
If the parameter is that it’s 1 sided then you don’t need to be this creative, just have a longer sheet
drapes the entire class in his giant sheet of note paper
Yeah, but that would make them have two sides, one (or both) with writing on it.
Inefficient though
“That’s like 3 yards of class notes! That’s ridiculous!”
“What? Oh this? No I just got a pack of gum at CVS real quick.”
I think the joke here is the one sided part. Paper sheet has two sides.
The shape student is using is called möbious strip and its pretty famous mathematical object for being shape with only one plane. Another one is Klein bottle and im sure there are other ones too.
How else are you going to have a 1-sided sheet?
Hmm. Would the surface of a sphere qualify as a sheet? But I feel that is cheating. The inside would count as another side if you could only get to it.
Not if the sphere is solid!
Relevant xkcd.