The Three Kinds of Scientific Research
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 28 Aug 2024 12:25
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Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 2024 12:48 next collapse

I like the way it kinda works regardless of if the punchline is about biological or computer science trees

azi@mander.xyz on 29 Aug 2024 09:46 collapse

Don’t forget ethnographers and the surname Tree

lowleveldata@programming.dev on 28 Aug 2024 13:24 next collapse

You can’t have 1st and 2nd without the 3rd kind

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 28 Aug 2024 21:24 next collapse

Why though?

lowleveldata@programming.dev on 28 Aug 2024 23:17 collapse

How do you make theories without observation?

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 29 Aug 2024 00:58 collapse

#3 is not about making observations in general but about making a map of every tree. This is a common mistake of scientists, wanting to have a complete set of data on their topic. I myself have to remind myself of this as well when designing projects. But in reality you cannot make a map of every tree and even if you could, what’s it worth? You need abstractions to understand anything and models are just that. To design a good research study you need to balance how many observations are necessary vs how much effort they take.

lowleveldata@programming.dev on 29 Aug 2024 10:52 collapse

I feel like it’s just useful for different use cases. You don’t need to start with making a map of all trees everytime but it certainly would be handy if someone else had compiled a map of all / most trees for reference.

flora_explora@beehaw.org on 29 Aug 2024 11:02 collapse

It just isn’t feasible. But maybe this is my ecological background speaking. Because, sure, if I’d look at different branches of science, it might be doable and also useful. But if you look at ecology (and making a map of every tree is ecology) then this just isn’t useful enough for a task that is basically impossible to achieve. That’s why in ecological research there are some standard sampling methods, like plots, transects, etc. Within these, you could do a map of all the trees if necessary. But these will be only a fraction of the whole system you look at.

Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca on 31 Aug 2024 08:10 collapse

We have made some amazing discoveries with full-sky maps and analysis of the CMB. The human genome project has also yeilded a wealth of discoveries.

azi@mander.xyz on 29 Aug 2024 09:41 collapse

I think the comic is about types of published articles with the 3rd being “we collated and collected a bunch of data to make this database that other researchers will find useful”-type papers. So you don’t need to rely on the map of every tree if you just map some trees yourself.

paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works on 28 Aug 2024 14:51 collapse

The map from the third is the “circumstances” of the first two. Or the “results”. First two just theorists, I guess.