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from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 20 Feb 19:43
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KoboldCoterie@pawb.social on 20 Feb 19:46 next collapse

Dude should just delete his account in a form of internet Harakiri at that point.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 19:53 next collapse

Isn’t it seppuku?

9point6@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:07 next collapse

One is part of the other

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:07 collapse

How so?

9point6@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:13 next collapse

One is the actual disembowelment one is the ritual IIRC

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:17 collapse

Yes I guess harakiri is the act of disemboweling yourself and seppuku is the ceremony surrounding it.

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 00:12 next collapse

Not quite but I can see why people think so. Both words stem from the same Kanji pair: 腹切. Abdomen cut.

But one is read natively (harakiri) with an informal and colloquial feel to it and the other uses borrowed Chinese readings (seppuku) that makes it sound more formal/ritualistic to be used in formal settings. But they mean the same thing and both refer to the ritual.

A similar example is Japan’s own name: 日本. It’s usually read as “nihon” but has a special, formal reading of “nippon”.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 00:20 collapse

I just want a tantō that moans as I commit seppuku.

faythofdragons@slrpnk.net on 21 Feb 04:26 collapse

Just make sure the source code gets posted to Github

Klear@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 08:20 collapse

Commit on github before committing suicide!

kreskin@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:02 collapse

I named one of our dumber work projects ‘project seppeku’ once. Boss was not amused when someone told him what it meant, but it went undiscovered for longer than I would have imagined, which simultaneosly made me happy and hurt my feelings.

Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 20:14 collapse

Harikari = seppuku. They’re even written with the same kanji characters.

Oh, and harikari usually has a helper.

mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 21:24 next collapse

Oh, and harikari usually has a helper.

Other way around. Seppuku is the whole ritual, which includes the helper. But if you just gut yourself out in the woods with no ceremony, it’s harikiri

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:56 collapse

it’s harikiri

eh, only if it comes from the harikiri region of france tho.

otherwise it’s just sparkling disembowelment.

june@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Feb 22:13 collapse

To really put this to rest:

Harakiri and Seppuku both literally mean abdomen/stomach cutting. Those who know some Japanese may recognize hara from the common phrase hara hetta which means you are hungry (literally, your stomach is decreasing in size or diminishing). Kiri means cut.

腹: hara 切: kiri

Seppuku simply reverses those kanji: 切腹

Why are they pronounced differently? Harakiri is a native Japanese word, using more traditional Japanese pronunciation Seppuku is a borrowing of middle Chinese roots: setsu from Middle Chinese tset meaning to cut, and fuku from Middle Chinese pjuwk, related to modern Mandarin fūk, referring to your abdomen.

So, setsufuku was shortened to seppuku where the Ps represent a stop and skipping of part of the word.

andrewth09@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 23:08 next collapse

gesundheit

pseudo@jlai.lu on 20 Feb 23:45 next collapse

Intesticide.

bobs_monkey@lemm.ee on 20 Feb 23:51 collapse

Sudoku

Tja@programming.dev on 21 Feb 00:29 collapse

He will just tell her to make him a sandwich and the current Twitter audience will love him for that.

shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Feb 20:10 next collapse

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ThePyroPython@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:46 collapse

No… Let 'em burn.

I want Brad so emotionally scarred that every time he goes to tweet some bullshit he has a depression inducing anxiety attack so overwhelming that he has to find the nearest corner to go cry in until exhaustion.

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SwordInStone@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:04 next collapse

Yes, but she still probably knows what she is talking about

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dishpanman@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 22:10 next collapse

Her first point stands wrt SpaceX. Turning this into a discussion about her experience on the topic makes her point even more valid. Last time I checked people didn’t need to be a nobel laurate in a field to make a valid point.

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Gullible@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 20:27 next collapse

blue check marks

Ew

petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Feb 22:09 collapse

Elon actually hands these out to people who don’t want them because they were unpopular and an easy means of telling chuds apart from… uh, chads? There’s a good chance hers is a forced advertisement and not something she’s actually paying for.

Serinus@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:44 collapse

Still means she’s on Twitter.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 20 Feb 22:59 next collapse

And you’re on Lemmy. Most people have their echo chamber of choice.

Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 Feb 23:31 next collapse

That’s a really bad argument given one of those chambers is literally run by, and full of, nazis.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 21 Feb 01:34 collapse

Plenty of fascists on Lemmy. They’re just not well known billionaires.

lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network on 21 Feb 07:23 next collapse

Luckily it’s federated.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 13:18 collapse

No, both sides are not the same. There is a way higher percentage on Twitter and it’s centrally controlled by one.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 21 Feb 13:47 collapse

Both sides? Good grief. Not everything has to be a you vs them. And of course there is a higher number on Twitter. They have, what, 300 million active users? And Lemmy is probably .001% of that.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 14:41 collapse

higher percentage

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 21 Feb 15:39 collapse

Thanks? By making that statement I’m sure you know the exact percentage. Feel free to provide it. I’d be interested to know.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 16:38 collapse

Bullshit.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 21 Feb 17:52 collapse

It’s bullshit that you claim it’s a higher percentage than the one I provided, but don’t actually know what it is? Look man, if you’re just giving your opinion, that’s fine. Just say so.

Gullible@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 23:34 collapse

That’s like saying “everyone has a hobby” when you witness someone picking fights in public. Some hobbies and spaces are objectively worse than others.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 00:19 collapse

So are an insanely large amount of people.

I don’t think people on here realise that we are in an echo chamber ourselves and often times not very forgiving of people with differing opinions, where I would assume we should want to bring people to our point of view by being accepting and trying to educate on our beliefs.

So in this echo chamber of what 50K MAUs it can sometimes be hard to keep sight of the fact we are the smallest of minorities in this space and what we see is absolutely not a representation of what most people in the world care about.

I’ve never used Twitter but I’m not going to shit on other people for using it.

Were you on Reddit when they had loads of jailbait subs? Would you like to labelled as part of that same group just because you shared the same space?

Does it not seem reasonable that some people might use Twitter as a means to keep in the loop and not isolate from the crazies, Nazis, bigots or whatever. You can’t converse with the other side if you ain’t where they are at and if we all stay in our own echo chambers what are we really achieving other than a self-righteous circle jerk?

To be abundantly clear I am including myself in this too and not just calling you out. But this place is exhausting at times, I am the most cynical person I know and this place really gives me a run for my money at times. Even in the less serious stuff, like you can’t oppose Linux here you’ll be downvoted to shit for even having a different opinion. You have to use FOSS everything, and you should even be eating open source food 😂

unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz on 21 Feb 00:55 next collapse

Twitter is just shit though. Why are you even trying to defend it? Same as Facebook, I can’t see shit there without an account.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 01:05 collapse

I’m not trying to defend, I was reasoning why people would still use it and trying to start a discussion.

Why did you focus on that aspect of my quite long comment and not try to engage with any of the points I made?

unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz on 21 Feb 02:39 next collapse

i had a frikkin point and now i’ve been sidetracked and seriously? twitter???

unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz on 21 Feb 02:51 collapse

sorry i came back but wtf

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 13:45 collapse

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OpenStars@piefed.social on 21 Feb 02:48 next collapse

Not just Linux, but you obviously have to use the *correct* distro of it, which obviously is...

correct

Are you shitting me right now, why would you click that!? Allow me to explain in this 50 part manifesto why I am so very smart and everyone else is beneath me...

That said, X is legit an Alt-Right Nazi bar. Even as we here are an Alt-Left one. I suppose it simply comes with the territory.:-|

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 13:16 collapse

Aww I wanted to hear your Linux opinions

logi@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 23:38 collapse

It was going to be Arch.

Hackworth@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:16 next collapse

Actually, there are only a few hundred people on Twitter. The rest are bots.

Klear@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 08:18 next collapse

tl;dr, but I still think displaying mild disgust at anyone who uses twitter today is the correct reaction

Serinus@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 12:52 collapse

If Spez had given a Nazi salute and taken over the US government, I would have left.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 13:21 collapse

That’s your prerogative, but I wonder if you see the danger of all people online splitting into their own groups?

The way I see it is you have a place just filled with say Nazis then they’re never going to learn or understand different perspectives and they’re going to become more radical.

tree_frog@lemm.ee on 21 Feb 13:47 collapse

Nazis don’t understand different perspectives. It’s essentially the definition.

That said, I see value in posting for the peanut gallery (when I encounter Nazis here, I don’t go on Twitter).

But debating Nazis? Hoping to change their minds?

Nah, prefer to serve them knuckle sandwiches and go about my day.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 13:58 collapse

This reads like you making the assumption that people are born Nazis and it’s not a learned behaviour.

Some people can hold their beliefs because of the environment they grew up in and many can actually change if people actually cared about educating people and not just feeling superior.

I want to stress this is only my opinion and I respect that you have yours too.

tree_frog@lemm.ee on 21 Feb 23:28 collapse

I agree with what you’re saying generally.

But in the context of X, and Meta too. These are Nazi echo chambers. By design. It’s not an environment generally conducive to getting through to folks.

If someone was closed-minded, you know around a campfire smoking a joint, I could probably plant some seeds right.

But on X, I don’t think there’s anything I could say that would cut through their cognitive dissonance.

Plus, I’d be supporting Musk’s platform by being on it. So fuck that.

introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Feb 20:35 next collapse

I actually know her from titkok YouTube and Instagram, she does know stuff from space! She is great to watch

modifier@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 20:55 next collapse

From what now?

introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Feb 21:08 next collapse

Titkok, it’s some social media from China 🇹🇼

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 00:22 collapse

China West Taiwan

FIFY

kautau@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:30 collapse

Space, Elon Musk is telling me I can get a great deal on being what he calls an “interplanetary servant” and that my sacrifice will be significant for humans in space! He’s so smart, he surely has all our best interests in mind. Anyway, off I go into the shower!

SwordInStone@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 21:03 next collapse

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OpenStars@piefed.social on 20 Feb 23:09 collapse

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Steve@startrek.website on 20 Feb 20:39 next collapse

But all females have been deleted from nasa

OpenStars@piefed.social on 20 Feb 23:07 collapse

I thought we were all female now, by law? :-P

MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca on 20 Feb 20:59 next collapse

What does D.D. stand for? Designated dumbass?

Edit: Doctor dickhead?

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LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:09 next collapse

Doctor of Divinity - in most places a bogus degree given to ministers or bought online.

Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:12 next collapse

Divorced dad

theangryseal@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:27 collapse

That my game bro!!! I love that shit.

If y’all don’t know what it is, look up the dude who makes divorced dads on YouTube.

I love that guy.

miseducator@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 23:14 collapse

You talking about Graeme Barrett? If so, I’m glad that dude is finally getting some recognition. He’s hilarious and was way underrated on the Tube for a long time.

theangryseal@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 00:43 collapse

Yeah that’s him. Love that dude.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:05 collapse

Designated Douchebag

Dumbass Dingeberry

Disappointing Dipshit

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 20 Feb 21:29 next collapse

Tbf the Forbes 30 Under 30 is a great predictor of future jail time.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world on 20 Feb 23:01 next collapse

Yeah the rest is fine, but bragging about being featured in a magazine is kinda cringe.

Speculater@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 23:03 collapse

I mean, I feel you, but it is a pretty big deal to the general public. It’s okay to be proud of being recognized.

unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz on 21 Feb 00:50 next collapse

Has somebody mapped that one out?

techt@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 04:12 collapse

There are a bunch of blog posts on it if you search “30 under 30 jail”. I would link to one, but I didn’t like the first few I saw.

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Empricorn@feddit.nl on 21 Feb 05:03 collapse

How dare you. Media Luminary Griffin McElroy is a saint!

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 20 Feb 21:39 next collapse

Are any of the things she listed actually “doing science” though? Writing policy is more politics.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 20 Feb 21:53 collapse

Well he did ask ‘what have you done that’s so great’

TheFogan@programming.dev on 20 Feb 21:59 collapse

exactly, she wasn’t saying she was a researcher, she was stating she wasn’t an arm chair quarterback… Going with the sports analogy she’s far closer to a manager or a coach… not a dude on the couch with just the perspective of what’s shown on TV.

echo@lemmings.world on 20 Feb 22:03 next collapse

Get the fuck off of xitter… it harms your credibility.

ghurab@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:12 next collapse

I worked for NASA and the Space Force …

That “worked for” is doing a lot of heavy lifting, she’s a tiktok influencer lol

Irelephant@lemm.ee on 20 Feb 22:22 next collapse

Silence, blue check.

WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:26 next collapse

Every time I hear the name Brad, I think of Brad Majors from the Rocky Horry Picture Show.

“Hi, I’m Brad Majors!”

“Asshole”

SciencesPoulet@piaille.fr on 20 Feb 22:35 next collapse

@fossilesque *from interstellar medium/galactic center

sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz on 20 Feb 22:39 next collapse

Holy shit, a lot of weirdos mad in the comments.

sachasage@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:41 collapse

Eh, people don’t like twitter. That’s not weird.

sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz on 20 Feb 22:53 collapse

Now you know I was referring to the comments calling her a “space influencer” lol

merdaverse@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 22:47 next collapse

Bro, put those man tits under a Tshirt cause that looks like a serious burn

DataDisrupter@feddit.nl on 20 Feb 23:21 next collapse

nuked from orbit

It’s the only way to be sure.

pseudo@jlai.lu on 20 Feb 23:47 next collapse

I’m hesitant. Should I crosspost on !confidently_incorrect@lemmy.world or !murderedbywords@feddit.uk?

BassTurd@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 00:04 next collapse

All. Day.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 00:11 next collapse

¿Por qué no los dos?

pseudo@jlai.lu on 21 Feb 15:51 collapse

No hay razón.

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 16:00 collapse

Exactamente

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Feb 00:28 next collapse

Federate them all!

pseudo@jlai.lu on 21 Feb 15:52 collapse

YES !! For the glory of the fediverse !

TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 01:39 next collapse

Yes

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 02:34 collapse

Skip .world, it’s too centralized and Reddit-y

pseudo@jlai.lu on 21 Feb 15:46 collapse

Open and moderate one somewhere else and I would.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 22 Feb 07:31 collapse

You’re right. There are zero other instances already. Neat how you posted through magic ether.

pseudo@jlai.lu on 22 Feb 11:03 collapse

Don’t take it this way. To my knowledge there is no other community name !confidently_incorrect outside the one from .world and I don’t want to moderate one community just so I can crosspost once every 4 months. If you or any other lemmings is willing to do the moderation part, I’m fine with crossposting there.

criitz@reddthat.com on 21 Feb 00:01 next collapse

But has she considered that she’s just a woman? /s

NotLemming@lemm.ee on 21 Feb 01:18 collapse

She’s obviously too pretty to be smart /s

zqwzzle@lemmy.ca on 21 Feb 20:07 collapse

She’s dressed too sexily/not sexily enough to be a science educator. /s

painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml on 21 Feb 00:27 next collapse

Should’ve just said, Google my name or something.

lady_maria@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 01:22 collapse

why? then he wouldn’t’ve been humbled in such a satisfying, heart-warming way. clearly, he hasn’t experience that nearly enough. not to mention the sheer audacity and what is very likely to be misogyny.

gabbath@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 21 Feb 11:51 collapse

It’s definitely misogyny. The incredulous attitude at the competence of a woman in a male-dominated field is textbook.

caboose2006@lemm.ee on 21 Feb 02:12 next collapse

You see ladies, mansplaining is a portmanteau of the words man, and explaining. Meaning a man explaining something… Actually let me back up. A portmanteau is a blending of two words in both sound and meaning.

So mansplaining… /S

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BigBenis@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 02:53 next collapse

Not to downplay the rest of her accomplishments but can’t you essentially buy your way onto the F30U30 list?

clockworkstone@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 03:25 next collapse

Bro, you can buy the presidency of the United States if you have enough money. So yeah, not what she did, but it is completely posible.

pyre@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:40 next collapse

isn’t a Forbes list the kind of list that buying your way into it proves you belong there?

fckreddit@lemmy.ml on 21 Feb 03:48 collapse

I think so. My sister has been contacted by Forbes that she can pay for a spot on the list. There was a cheaper option for just the nomination.

sumguyonline@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:31 next collapse

This verbal smack down could have been avoided had he read probably anything about her from online and didn’t only know her because she dated a Foosball player.

CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:37 next collapse

“What have you done that’s so great other than be an arm chair Monday morning quarterback?”, asked the arm chair Monday morning quarterback

JargonWagon@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 14:43 collapse

Arm chair Monday morning quarterback is giving him way too much. Arm chair Monday morning waterboy is more like it.

mlg@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 03:38 next collapse

Alexandra Doten is a science communicator and astronomy content creator who rose to fame on TikTok during the COVID-19 pandemic. Doten, a Vanderbilt graduate, interned at NASA for two summers and worked as a communications specialist after graduation. She later transitioned to the U.S. Space Force. Doten is known for her storytelling, which she says has inspired people to pursue careers in astronomy and space, and to invest in astrophotography equipment.

Not to give credit to Twitter verified assholes, but comms specialist is not a specific astronomy or aerospace field.

A former space communications specialist with NASA and later, the U.S. Space Force, today, I am an independent consultant to space organizations around the world. I write and develop brand strategies, educational presentations, speeches, and social media content. 

And I harbor some pretty strong opinions about NASA’s public and internal administration for the past 30 years.

Two preventable shuttle disasters and a hacksaw outsourced attempt to return to the moon are not what I would consider quality projects. Modern NASA is the epitome of wasted talent.

satans_methpipe@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 05:12 next collapse

Ah just some blue check degenerates having a slap fight in the Nazi bar. Yawn.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 05:21 next collapse

Space Force, huh So is anyone gonna tell her 😂

TheFonz@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 07:18 next collapse

Her yt channel is amazing!

Acidbath@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 07:59 next collapse

oh shit i didnt know that, I love her content just thought she only worked at NASA in the dmv area. Used to run into her videos on insta - she REALLY loves space.

When those two astronauts were stuck in space(also fuck boeing), she provided some insides about their procedures and plans of return.

BenLeMan@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 08:06 next collapse

Whoa, whoa. How dare this uppity woman talk like that to Dr. Bradley D. D. Wentworth, PhD., an internationally renowned expert on footballogy and beeristics? His accolades include frequent beating of his wife, a penchant for racial slurs, and living in a trailer down by the river.

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 08:08 collapse

Beeristics sounds like an awesome field, too bad Brad is in it.

notgold@aussie.zone on 22 Feb 00:24 collapse

I was thinking some kind of beer calisthenics but then realised that the Brad bod wouldn’t support that

Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Feb 08:06 next collapse

Wait a minute … "Forbes 30 under 30 " ?? hmmm

Mim@lemmy.zip on 21 Feb 10:03 collapse

Can’t be long before she’s arrested for fraud.

Superheavy@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 08:15 next collapse

At least Brad has nice moobs going for him.

Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 08:24 next collapse

Man… I don’t envy the person who has to clean up that man-shaped puddle after he just up and melted.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 15:00 collapse

“man”

Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 16:14 collapse

yes? a common exclamation of frustration. your point?

braindamagebuddy@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 18:14 collapse

I think they were referring to “man shaped puddle”, when the picture is more of a puddle shaped puddle.

Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 20:29 collapse

🤣

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Feb 11:16 next collapse

Don’t take this the wrong way but from the list of achievements she sounds very much a Politician/PR-person/Lobbyist specialized in the area of Space Exploration, not an Engineer or a Scientist.

Still beats Beer-belly Brad by a long distance (probably not hard), but is such a person really worth celebrating in Science Memes?

Liz@midwest.social on 21 Feb 13:39 next collapse

Here’s the thing, we scientists need our cheerleaders. We spend our time getting good at doing science, so it’s worth it to hire someone who is good at hyping and advocating for our work. Go listen to the recordings of James Webb trying to explain to JFK that we need to do a shit-ton of science before we can get to the moon. JFK just plain doesn’t understand the magnitude of what he’s asking for. He thinks we could do it in 6 months. This lady is our champion.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 14:58 collapse
parrhesia@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 14:10 next collapse

Just because she isn’t a straight engineer or scientist, doesn’t make her expertise less worth it I don’t think. And I would think that would make a very narrow acceptable requirements for this place.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Feb 16:02 collapse

It makes her an expert in advocacy and politics, not science or engineering.

Obviously advocacy expertise is no less worth than engineering expertise or science expertise, just like arts expertise is no less worth than any of that and ditto for plenty of other kinds of expertise in complex areas.

However, the “salesmanship” kinds of expertise are already the some of most widely celebrated and rewarded by present day society, hence my point.

parrhesia@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 17:53 collapse

So you’re saying that science _memes should only accept memes from active practicing scientists and engineers with degrees in their own specified fields?

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Feb 18:00 collapse

You might want to re-read my posts a couple of time and think about it a bit harder, if the conclusion you derived from what I wrote is that I want to gatekeep the posters.

parrhesia@sh.itjust.works on 22 Feb 00:46 collapse

No need to be rude. Here, since I’m so simple minded and dumb I’ll try to convey as best as I can to one such as yourself. You’re saying she’s an expert in advocacy (how does one become an expert in that?) and politics… or maybe showmanship?, it doesn’t make her an expert in space programs. We should celebrate those people less, and feature actual scientists and engineers more. What I’m saying is that would be a narrow band if we just include people who’s job titles are scientists and engineers, because we are assuming other people in similar expertise fields would not know the original tweets context. If that is off base, my deepest apologies.

It makes her an expert in advocacy and politics, not science or engineering.

Obviously advocacy expertise is no less worth than engineering expertise or science expertise, just like arts expertise is no less worth than any of that and ditto for plenty of other kinds of expertise in complex areas.

However, the “salesmanship” kinds of expertise are already the some of most widely celebrated and rewarded by present day society, hence my point.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 21 Feb 18:21 next collapse

Certainly more than “arm chair Monday morning quarter backing”

Natanael@infosec.pub on 21 Feb 20:57 collapse

As long as these types pay attention to what the scientists tell them and explain it to others accurately, they’re helpful

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 11:34 next collapse

Those Forbes lists like 30 under 30 are a joke though. Not sure why she’s bragging about that.

shneancy@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 13:08 next collapse

ngl 30 under 30 would feel way more impressive to me if i was on the list too

DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 14:54 next collapse

Yeah really. I read that as “got featured in the magazine known for doing cover shoots of frauds.” Weird flex.

TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 16:19 next collapse

if I were on there I would probably brag about it to some dumbass online too

UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 19:29 collapse

Coming from someone who’s never been on the 30 under 30

MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca on 21 Feb 13:25 next collapse

Between the post and some of the comments, I’m pretty sure we’re on the worst time.

At least, the worst surviving timeline. I’m sure plenty of “worse” timelines have existed that killed off the entirety of the planet.

This is just the worst of what’s left.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 21 Feb 14:17 collapse

The one where we all die is the good timeline, we are going for the torture nexus timeline.

MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca on 21 Feb 19:00 collapse

Fair point.

vorlaut_boy@feddit.org on 21 Feb 13:25 next collapse

Nice Tits, Brad.

JargonWagon@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 14:40 next collapse

I think the D.D. stands for Double Ds.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 14:56 collapse

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BradleyUffner@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 16:53 collapse

Come on man, I’m going to start exercising again any day now, I swear!

Trollception@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 13:45 next collapse

Eh both responses were cringe. She should have ignored him tbh

MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml on 21 Feb 15:08 next collapse

This is why I’m not on twitter, she shouldn’t have to defend herself and explain herself to that degree. People can be so toxic that on a game like marvel rivals I was absolutely dog shit at because my chat and voice chat were always visible, once I muted everything, I am suddenly reaching Gold II in a couple days. Be where you are wanted instead of jumping into the snake pit where you know exactly the opinions and beliefs of those snakes, there’s nothing to gain, fascists are fascists, what more can they build on than opinion and beliefs?

TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml on 22 Feb 18:59 collapse

Has that guy got moobs? I hate to body shame, but that would be so on brand.