You probably don’t want to know the details of any science done before… What? the 90’s?
SARGE@startrek.website
on 27 May 16:16
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You know, it’s always funny when sci-fi shows have doctors that refer to current year medical practices as “barbaric” or “Savage”, but honestly looking back just 50 years? Same feeling.
200 years ago, the local “doctor” will probably tell you to take a swig of the bottle he just dumped on your wound, because he’s gotta saw it off. Hopefully they at least washed it since it’s last use.
200 years from now? Eh. Doc will wave a light over it, you’ll be fine.
We still have jokes and common knowledge about being sent to the psych ward if you reveal anything weird about your mind. I’ve heard stories only a few years old of doctors refusing to refer trans patients to gender clinics, which quite often means either needing to circumvent the system or death. Only last year I had the revelation that doctors are supposed to help me, not just tell me what I must do.
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 27 May 19:30
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Gays and Lesbians were institutionalized until the late 1960s.
The lack of pain-empathy in healthcare is mind-blowing. I’m a white man in an excellent position to be listened to, but when I had appendicitis last year getting people to understand that no, I am in crippling pain and I think it’s urgent was far to much hassle for someone in crippling pain. I can’t imagine what it’s like for women.
I can understand folk getting jaded eventually but I often get the feeling that many people start out not caring.
chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 27 May 17:32
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in addition to the various iterations on “reddit didn’t invent puns”, I think it bears pointing out that this place is a reddit imitator, built to be an alternative to reddit, by and for disaffected redditors, with a userbase comprised of people who either switched from reddit or use them side-by-side. i think you should adjust your expectations.
Right? I wouldn’t be surprised if this has happened to him. He works in a fast food restaurant ffs. With a cheap boss and no concept of OSHA or food safety regulations, no less.
If y’all knew what went down in the back of similar restaurants in the real world, you’d probably never eat at a diner again. And that’s with OSHA and Health Codes.
Iirc they make jokes about sponges regenerating multiple times. Stephen Hillenburg was a marine biologist and educator, which is what led him into making SpongeBob.
Honest question. How is that sponge an animal and how is “animal” defined? If we grind something through a sieve and it reassembles surely the lifeform can’t be too complicated.
multifariace@lemmy.world
on 27 May 15:47
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Sponge are some of the most simple animals alive. Jellyfish are comparatively not too far off.
Thank you. But are jellyfish really not that far off. Looks like a pretty huge step to me. Jellyfish look complex enough to not just magically reassemble if we grind them through a sieve.
I personally (but I’m not a biologists 🤣) definitely would consider a jellyfish an animal because different cells (at least ot very much looks like that) have different functions and thus throwing it in the meat grinder (even if individual cells are not damaged) I can’t imagine how ot could reassemble itself.
But a sponge seems so homogeneous it (I guess) almost doesn’t matter what goes where and that’s why it can reassemble. That why (I personally) wouldn’t think of that as an animal.
Are there other things that are technically animals that are that homogeneous?
Little pieces of a jellyfish can become new jellyfish. They can reproduce sexually or asexually. The Immortal Jellyfish is even weirder. They are some of the simplest multicellular animals after sponge and coral.
Animals are members of kingdom Animalia. One of the unify features of this kingdom is multicellularity. Slime molds are members of the mostly-single-celled protists and they themselves are some of the most complex single celled organisms. Sponges, being very basal animals, are one of the phyla that retains a high degree of regenerative ability that simplicity facilitates while being very much a multicellular organism with all the organization that comes with.
When Leeto got bored of the Duncans and didn’t use his prescience. Don’t mind me been listening to the Dune series for the umpteenth time again. Just the core ones of course.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 27 May 23:32
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The Aperture Science Enrichment Center welcomes you to the Aperture Science 3 meter sieve. The only exit from this hermetically sealed chamber is through the carbon nanotube mesh covering the doorway. If you are not able to negotiate the carbon nanotube mesh on your own, an Aperture Science 90 kiloton hydraulic persuasion piston will assist you in the experiment. Testing protocols require us to inform you that in some rare cases the carbon nanotube mesh may irritate your skin, eyes, bones, and central nervous system.
ramirezmike@programming.dev
on 28 May 00:55
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perfect
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 28 May 01:17
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I was going for a Portal 1 GLaDOS there. Portal 2 GLaDOS be like:
Today we are focusing on material integrity–YOURS to be more precise. In this chamber you will encounter a long track of propulsion gel, at the end of which you will encounter an Aperture Science Particle Filtration Grid. The goal isn’t to stop you; it is to see precisely which parts of you stop. For science.
Now, try not to disappoint. Or do; it really doesn’t matter to me. And if you somehow manage to reassemble yourself on the other side, do let us know. It would be…unexpected
Cave Johnson be like:
Alright, listen up down there! This next experiment we call The Sift. Now you might be thinking, “Cave, why am I being forced through a giant cheese grater?” The answer is very simple: Because you signed the waiver.
We’re throwing science at the wall to see what sticks. And by ‘the wall’ we mean the Aperture Science Particle Filtration Grid, and by ‘science’ we mean you. And by ‘throw’ we mean 'fire out of a giant pneumatic cannon."
Some of you might be worried about the finer points, the technical details. Don’t! That’s our job. Your job is to be the organic matter. I’ll be honest, some of you will make it through, and some of you won’t. You won’t have any tumors left after this, so you’ve got that going for you. Caroline, start the compressor.
UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works
on 28 May 07:09
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why are you this good at this?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 28 May 16:24
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I played the shit out of those games.
UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works
on 28 May 22:01
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Aye, fair enough. Well it was a fun read, so keep it up
My brain totally omitted the first instance of sponge and for a moment I thought we were making sponges out of military personnel from a specific branch of the military.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
on 27 May 22:06
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given the history of experiments on military personel, it wouldn’t surprise me if we did
TheFogan@programming.dev
on 27 May 22:59
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I think the star trek transporter debate is more apt.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 27 May 23:19
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I forget which episode it was, but on Last Week Tonight someone compared some process to “turning a fried chicken nugget back into a live chicken.” To which John replied “If you managed that, that chicken would be FUCKED UP. Imagine the poetry it would write, ‘the things that I saw, buck buck bacaw…’”
A sponge can un-puree itself but I bet there’s a kind of scream we can’t hear that it would never stop making.
It’s like the metamorphosis of a caterpillar into a butterfly. It basically melts into a goo inside it’s chrysalis, but apparently it’s been demonstrated that they can retain things they learned before metamorphosis, so…🤷♂️
tasankovasara@sopuli.xyz
on 28 May 16:50
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Some of you will be fighting for your planet. Some of you will be dying for your planet. Some of you will be forced through a fine screen mesh for your planet. Those will be the luckiest of all.
whitelobster69@lemmynsfw.com
on 28 May 23:32
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Pretty much any animal. AFAIK, no burger has ever reorganized itself into a cow.
yes, that cow is me
is the grass good over there?
Well it’s always better on the other side
I am going to have to chew on that for awhile thnx
That’s what they want you to think. Wake up!
However, I’ve seen plenty of butter cows
No actually works on more. If you grind a human into a seive into salt water, pour the salt water into a busy walkway.
After forensics is done in there… the cleanup crew also organizes it into sponges, Mops… and all kinds of tools.
Crime Scene Cleaner is such a great game
You probably don’t want to know the details of any science done before… What? the 90’s?
You know, it’s always funny when sci-fi shows have doctors that refer to current year medical practices as “barbaric” or “Savage”, but honestly looking back just 50 years? Same feeling.
200 years ago, the local “doctor” will probably tell you to take a swig of the bottle he just dumped on your wound, because he’s gotta saw it off. Hopefully they at least washed it since it’s last use.
200 years from now? Eh. Doc will wave a light over it, you’ll be fine.
We still have jokes and common knowledge about being sent to the psych ward if you reveal anything weird about your mind. I’ve heard stories only a few years old of doctors refusing to refer trans patients to gender clinics, which quite often means either needing to circumvent the system or death. Only last year I had the revelation that doctors are supposed to help me, not just tell me what I must do.
Gays and Lesbians were institutionalized until the late 1960s.
I’d restrict it to the 2010s to be sure. But it varies from one specialty to another.
When again did medicine discovered that woman benefit from anesthetics when inserting an infra-uterine device? Oh it was by 2025…
The lack of pain-empathy in healthcare is mind-blowing. I’m a white man in an excellent position to be listened to, but when I had appendicitis last year getting people to understand that no, I am in crippling pain and I think it’s urgent was far to much hassle for someone in crippling pain. I can’t imagine what it’s like for women.
I can understand folk getting jaded eventually but I often get the feeling that many people start out not caring.
Sieveral
Where are the mods!? This comment should have been screened!
Please don’t turn this into reddit.
Man, let people make puns.
Puns let people make man
People, let man make puns
Let make man people puns
Idk what I’m saying I just wanted to rearrange them alphabetically
Well too late, this is a mesh network.
Puns ain’t a reddit thing, they’re a human thing. Believe it or not but go outside, it turns out people make puns in real life
Go outside? shudders
We do, but only inside, where we can hide our shame from God.
What a… grating comment.
Ay! You shredded them with that one
in addition to the various iterations on “reddit didn’t invent puns”, I think it bears pointing out that this place is a reddit imitator, built to be an alternative to reddit, by and for disaffected redditors, with a userbase comprised of people who either switched from reddit or use them side-by-side. i think you should adjust your expectations.
yeah please don’t use this platform that was entirely modeled after reddit to do reddit things
Humans
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But we can morph grinded meet in another animal
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Also morph grinded art into “art”.
I hope spongebob never read this
Have you ever seen Spongebob? Way worse things happen to him.
Right? I wouldn’t be surprised if this has happened to him. He works in a fast food restaurant ffs. With a cheap boss and no concept of OSHA or food safety regulations, no less.
If y’all knew what went down in the back of similar restaurants in the real world, you’d probably never eat at a diner again. And that’s with OSHA and Health Codes.
I feel bad about the one time he tried to start a fire and it worked until he realized he was hopelessly underwater.
Why? It might be kind of reassuring. Nasty car crash? Pull yourself back together.
Iirc they make jokes about sponges regenerating multiple times. Stephen Hillenburg was a marine biologist and educator, which is what led him into making SpongeBob.
spongekyle I will END YOU if you tell Dr Robert Khakis.
the only one? what about slime molds?
Not an animal
Honest question. How is that sponge an animal and how is “animal” defined? If we grind something through a sieve and it reassembles surely the lifeform can’t be too complicated.
Sponge are some of the most simple animals alive. Jellyfish are comparatively not too far off.
Thank you. But are jellyfish really not that far off. Looks like a pretty huge step to me. Jellyfish look complex enough to not just magically reassemble if we grind them through a sieve.
I personally (but I’m not a biologists 🤣) definitely would consider a jellyfish an animal because different cells (at least ot very much looks like that) have different functions and thus throwing it in the meat grinder (even if individual cells are not damaged) I can’t imagine how ot could reassemble itself.
But a sponge seems so homogeneous it (I guess) almost doesn’t matter what goes where and that’s why it can reassemble. That why (I personally) wouldn’t think of that as an animal.
Are there other things that are technically animals that are that homogeneous?
Little pieces of a jellyfish can become new jellyfish. They can reproduce sexually or asexually. The Immortal Jellyfish is even weirder. They are some of the simplest multicellular animals after sponge and coral.
Animals are members of kingdom Animalia. One of the unify features of this kingdom is multicellularity. Slime molds are members of the mostly-single-celled protists and they themselves are some of the most complex single celled organisms. Sponges, being very basal animals, are one of the phyla that retains a high degree of regenerative ability that simplicity facilitates while being very much a multicellular organism with all the organization that comes with.
Thank you.
has this person ever heard of the sausage industry?
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Only the Polytron reduces an entire mouse to a soup-like homogenate in 30 seconds!
All of them.
Get that grinder fired up! We might have to feed some of the bigger ones through a wood chipper…
For science!
Human attempt #32,324,568,693
fail
Human attempt #32,324,568,694
fail
99% of mad scientist stop immoral human trials right before the big breakthrough!
When Leeto got bored of the Duncans and didn’t use his prescience. Don’t mind me been listening to the Dune series for the umpteenth time again. Just the core ones of course.
The Aperture Science Enrichment Center welcomes you to the Aperture Science 3 meter sieve. The only exit from this hermetically sealed chamber is through the carbon nanotube mesh covering the doorway. If you are not able to negotiate the carbon nanotube mesh on your own, an Aperture Science 90 kiloton hydraulic persuasion piston will assist you in the experiment. Testing protocols require us to inform you that in some rare cases the carbon nanotube mesh may irritate your skin, eyes, bones, and central nervous system.
perfect
I was going for a Portal 1 GLaDOS there. Portal 2 GLaDOS be like:
Today we are focusing on material integrity–YOURS to be more precise. In this chamber you will encounter a long track of propulsion gel, at the end of which you will encounter an Aperture Science Particle Filtration Grid. The goal isn’t to stop you; it is to see precisely which parts of you stop. For science.
Now, try not to disappoint. Or do; it really doesn’t matter to me. And if you somehow manage to reassemble yourself on the other side, do let us know. It would be…unexpected
Cave Johnson be like:
Alright, listen up down there! This next experiment we call The Sift. Now you might be thinking, “Cave, why am I being forced through a giant cheese grater?” The answer is very simple: Because you signed the waiver.
We’re throwing science at the wall to see what sticks. And by ‘the wall’ we mean the Aperture Science Particle Filtration Grid, and by ‘science’ we mean you. And by ‘throw’ we mean 'fire out of a giant pneumatic cannon."
Some of you might be worried about the finer points, the technical details. Don’t! That’s our job. Your job is to be the organic matter. I’ll be honest, some of you will make it through, and some of you won’t. You won’t have any tumors left after this, so you’ve got that going for you. Caroline, start the compressor.
why are you this good at this?
I played the shit out of those games.
Aye, fair enough. Well it was a fun read, so keep it up
To be accurate, they will all make it through. One way or another.
If I chop you up, in a meat grinder, and the only thing that comes out becomes you again… You are probably a sponge
adjunct professors express the same adaptation if you ask any university
All of them?
not all of them.
Only the tasty ones
How you think we know which ones are tasty?
Aperture science intro
My brain totally omitted the first instance of sponge and for a moment I thought we were making sponges out of military personnel from a specific branch of the military.
given the history of experiments on military personel, it wouldn’t surprise me if we did
I read sponge, but thought it must be a term for new recruits or something like that, which made the rest horrifying.
But is it the same sponge? Inverse ship of Theseus!
Not after I’m done, never be the same again…
I think the star trek transporter debate is more apt.
I forget which episode it was, but on Last Week Tonight someone compared some process to “turning a fried chicken nugget back into a live chicken.” To which John replied “If you managed that, that chicken would be FUCKED UP. Imagine the poetry it would write, ‘the things that I saw, buck buck bacaw…’”
A sponge can un-puree itself but I bet there’s a kind of scream we can’t hear that it would never stop making.
It’s like the metamorphosis of a caterpillar into a butterfly. It basically melts into a goo inside it’s chrysalis, but apparently it’s been demonstrated that they can retain things they learned before metamorphosis, so…🤷♂️
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Thanks for the lab meme picture. I miss r/labrats :'(
I too was doing an analytic chemistry course when this first popped :) Never forget!!
Hit extra hard because a friend was in a performing techno duo called Polytron.
Some of you will be fighting for your planet. Some of you will be dying for your planet. Some of you will be forced through a fine screen mesh for your planet. Those will be the luckiest of all.
Shut up and take my upvote!