Itās also just wrong, because quite a lot of mammals and birds use sound for intraspecies communication (a la human language), echolocation is fairly common, feeding and hunting often generate soundā¦ Sound production for mating purposes is a hefty chunk, but the joke here is pretty misleading.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world
on 04 May 01:40
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And even in mating season, I wonder if birds really consciously try to āget laidā or if they just sing, because it feels like the right thing to do in the moment and then getting laid happens. I mean, some start singing very young. How would they know what itās for the first time? Not all birds are as smart as crows.
This review paper looks at the motivation for both kinds of singing: intrinsically motivated (just for fun, all year round) and singing that attracts mates. In the latter, itās unclear, what triggers the motivation. The author supposes, it might be a combination of socially reinforced behavior and the vicinity of a mate, rather then the act of copulation, that triggers the reward.
If you really boil it down, all that any species ever does is in some way an attempt to propagate its genes. We arenāt any different either. The artistic spark that got Davinci to paint the Mona Lisa was there due to such behaviour being an evolutionarily beneficial trait (being good at art increases the social standing of a person and thus increases their chances of reproduction). I donāt want to sound cynical about this because Iām not. Thatās just life. It really doesnāt matter. The painting is still beautiful.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
on 04 May 12:12
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No, i donāt think there was ever a time where artists had a high social standing because of the art. Not even the greek philosophers we admire today.
Fair point, but despite how we as a society treat artists, I still think that the underlying impulse to do art is an attempt to capture the interest and appreciation of others, building social bonds. Rarely is art made without a tought of presenting it to others. This is how art seems to happen with every other species on earth that does it.
zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 May 13:51
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I donāt try to propagate my genes ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
Perhaps not with conscious intent. I suppose even staying alive and contributing to a society still means that you help your relatives pass their genes on. Even gay penguins do this when they adopt an orphaned egg.
I donāt even live near any of my relatives, and anyone I would help would be about as related to me as any other human (so, not related). Perhaps in another time period I wouldāve helped my tribe, but that is not the society I live in today.
Not that it really matters here, because I have no obligation to help genes.
Every other human around you has almost the same genes as you. Just being kind to others is already a tiny contribution to the survival of the species and the genes we share. Pretty sure one would have to be actively suicidial or a Bond villain in order to not to help the genes that survive on with every breath anybody ever takes.
Thatās where Iāve always been confused. Every living being wants to propogate their species through innate biological urges and behaviors, whether they realize it or not. Obviously humans recognize these behaviors and are able to choose whether or not to actually have children or to simply act on these urges without procreating (condoms, birth control, etc.). But the innate biological inclinations are still there.
Itās odd for me because Iāve never had these urges or inclinations for sex. Sometimes it makes me feel like Iām not human or something. Because every living being seems to experience this. Even when I discovered the concept of asexuality, I found that a very significant number of these individuals either oddly still had a sex drive or they were sexually traumatized in some way which blocked it. I have never had a sex drive and was never sexually traumatized. I was not a ālate bloomerā, as Iām in my 30s with the same lack of normal human feelings.
Itās not limited to direct reproduction of oneās own genes. Keep in mind that we live in a society. Contributing to that society means helping others of our species (with almost the same genes) pass their genes on. Just being kind to others is already great. Youāre valid.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
on 04 May 10:50
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Yes and no. A lot of the sounds are mating calls, but thereās so much more being communicated.
Some sounds are warnings, like when squirrels see a cat and start to chirp. If you watch them, youāll see them run up a tree and pause upside down on the trunk, chirping an alert to others. Other squirrels in the area will repeat the behavior and amplify the āmessageā until the threat (the neighborhood cat) goes away.
Some sounds are intended to trick others. Blue jays mimic the sounds made by birds of prey in order to scare other birds away from their feeding grounds. It works really well - Iāve seen a jay clear a whole flock of starlings from my yard before. He then swooped down and plucked a bunch of worms and bugs from the soil.
Thereās probably more, but these are just examples Iāve observed while hanging out on my porch.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
on 04 May 12:37
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honestly iād expect most sounds to not be mating sounds unless itās specifically a time of year where most of the animals there are in mating season
i think we humans tend to forget that itās not very normal to just always be looking to bang, for most animals (and plants even) itās done very enthusiastically at specific times.
Jays in my area well fly around making eagle calls convincing enough to fool plenty humans (myself included). Multiple times Iāve heard that unique shriek and searched the sky for a big bird only to see a cheeky Blue Jay hopping around in a tree š¤£
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
on 04 May 13:14
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Yeah, still WAY better than listening to traffic and incessant car noise?
agent_nycto@lemmy.world
on 04 May 16:55
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TIL this waterfalls want to get nasty
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world
on 05 May 21:25
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It was silly and goofy at first but quickly became tiresome. I just wonder if the amount of computing power and resources we throw at such frivolities are worth it.
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That just makes it all the more beautiful, to be honest.
and it makes a lot of sense when one thinks of clear cutting in terms of puritanism.
And allergies are because your nose is full of tree jizz
Nah its the whole baby, not jizzIt is jizz
Babies are jizz.
when ya wank, do you shoot 3kg naked shitting humans?
Millions of little homunculi
Itās the only way I can get off.
Youāre thinking of seeds.
Pollen is only the male half of the genetic material required for sexual plant reproductin, and is the step before plants produce fruit and seeds.
Hence, jizz.
Youāre so right that ones on me, idk why I said that
seeing people admit their mistakes online is one of the rarest and most beautiful sights in nature
Yes, thank you for your humility, Shark Fucker 420.
Do we have a
/rimjob_stevecommunity somewhere already?Donāt be so hard on yourself Sharkfucker420
Itās kind of both
The pollen isnāt the jizz but it produces the jizz
I canāt go out in summer cause I constantly have to say no homo and people keep looking at me all weird
Or a meal
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Or trying to kill each other at lunch time
And yet when I do it, Iām a pervert and asked to leave the park.
You need to dress more flamboyantly. Like a peacock.
Tehehe, ācockā!
Iāll show myself out, thank you.
This meme implies that birds and insects are not animals
Itās also just wrong, because quite a lot of mammals and birds use sound for intraspecies communication (a la human language), echolocation is fairly common, feeding and hunting often generate soundā¦ Sound production for mating purposes is a hefty chunk, but the joke here is pretty misleading.
The hills! Theyāre alive!!
Sometimes the sound is the animals actually getting laid.
The Girl Who Could Talk to Birds
Some are also like āFuck off, this is my tree!ā
Well, big same, ya know?
Birds are generally saying one of two things: āFuck you,ā or āFuck me.ā
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Outside of mating season, birds definitely do sing just for fun.
And even in mating season, I wonder if birds really consciously try to āget laidā or if they just sing, because it feels like the right thing to do in the moment and then getting laid happens. I mean, some start singing very young. How would they know what itās for the first time? Not all birds are as smart as crows.
This review paper looks at the motivation for both kinds of singing: intrinsically motivated (just for fun, all year round) and singing that attracts mates. In the latter, itās unclear, what triggers the motivation. The author supposes, it might be a combination of socially reinforced behavior and the vicinity of a mate, rather then the act of copulation, that triggers the reward.
If you really boil it down, all that any species ever does is in some way an attempt to propagate its genes. We arenāt any different either. The artistic spark that got Davinci to paint the Mona Lisa was there due to such behaviour being an evolutionarily beneficial trait (being good at art increases the social standing of a person and thus increases their chances of reproduction). I donāt want to sound cynical about this because Iām not. Thatās just life. It really doesnāt matter. The painting is still beautiful.
No, i donāt think there was ever a time where artists had a high social standing because of the art. Not even the greek philosophers we admire today.
Fair point, but despite how we as a society treat artists, I still think that the underlying impulse to do art is an attempt to capture the interest and appreciation of others, building social bonds. Rarely is art made without a tought of presenting it to others. This is how art seems to happen with every other species on earth that does it.
I donāt try to propagate my genes ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
Perhaps not with conscious intent. I suppose even staying alive and contributing to a society still means that you help your relatives pass their genes on. Even gay penguins do this when they adopt an orphaned egg.
I donāt even live near any of my relatives, and anyone I would help would be about as related to me as any other human (so, not related). Perhaps in another time period I wouldāve helped my tribe, but that is not the society I live in today.
Not that it really matters here, because I have no obligation to help genes.
Every other human around you has almost the same genes as you. Just being kind to others is already a tiny contribution to the survival of the species and the genes we share. Pretty sure one would have to be actively suicidial or a Bond villain in order to not to help the genes that survive on with every breath anybody ever takes.
Thatās where Iāve always been confused. Every living being wants to propogate their species through innate biological urges and behaviors, whether they realize it or not. Obviously humans recognize these behaviors and are able to choose whether or not to actually have children or to simply act on these urges without procreating (condoms, birth control, etc.). But the innate biological inclinations are still there.
Itās odd for me because Iāve never had these urges or inclinations for sex. Sometimes it makes me feel like Iām not human or something. Because every living being seems to experience this. Even when I discovered the concept of asexuality, I found that a very significant number of these individuals either oddly still had a sex drive or they were sexually traumatized in some way which blocked it. I have never had a sex drive and was never sexually traumatized. I was not a ālate bloomerā, as Iām in my 30s with the same lack of normal human feelings.
Itās not limited to direct reproduction of oneās own genes. Keep in mind that we live in a society. Contributing to that society means helping others of our species (with almost the same genes) pass their genes on. Just being kind to others is already great. Youāre valid.
Thank you very much
Yes and no. A lot of the sounds are mating calls, but thereās so much more being communicated.
Some sounds are warnings, like when squirrels see a cat and start to chirp. If you watch them, youāll see them run up a tree and pause upside down on the trunk, chirping an alert to others. Other squirrels in the area will repeat the behavior and amplify the āmessageā until the threat (the neighborhood cat) goes away.
Some sounds are intended to trick others. Blue jays mimic the sounds made by birds of prey in order to scare other birds away from their feeding grounds. It works really well - Iāve seen a jay clear a whole flock of starlings from my yard before. He then swooped down and plucked a bunch of worms and bugs from the soil.
Thereās probably more, but these are just examples Iāve observed while hanging out on my porch.
honestly iād expect most sounds to not be mating sounds unless itās specifically a time of year where most of the animals there are in mating season
i think we humans tend to forget that itās not very normal to just always be looking to bang, for most animals (and plants even) itās done very enthusiastically at specific times.
Jays in my area well fly around making eagle calls convincing enough to fool plenty humans (myself included). Multiple times Iāve heard that unique shriek and searched the sky for a big bird only to see a cheeky Blue Jay hopping around in a tree š¤£
Yeah, still WAY better than listening to traffic and incessant car noise?
TIL this waterfalls want to get nasty
Thatās why theyāre so wet.
Enjoy it before Zuck sucks all that water out to cool the computers that bring you Italian brainrot animals and Turbodong 2000 videos.
Turbodong 2000
Theyāre releasing a retro version? Will it say cool catch phrases from a quarter century ago?
Italian brainrot animals ?? That sounds funny i wanna know what it is
It was silly and goofy at first but quickly became tiresome. I just wonder if the amount of computing power and resources we throw at such frivolities are worth it.
No different to most pop music.
They should just get tinder accounts and stfu.