So your personal preferences dictate whether a product is good or not, and whether other people should also like it (“I do not like Tabasco, therefore its quality is shit”). Right. I’ll be sure to defer to you in my future personal tastes. 🙄
This is not a pissing contest about who can hold the most Carolina Reapers in. It’s a really subjective thing, which is why when the other commenter implied it was about hotness scale (which is valid foe those who go by it when choosing their preferred hot sauce), I personally go more by flavor. At least the other comment, while somewhat in condescending tone, was a way more productive opinion, backed with sources and actual measurements. 🤷♂️
I didn’t say anything about heat, just that tabasco is not a high quality sauce - It’s basically just red vinegar. If that’s what you’re into, enjoy. But you’re missing out on the good stuff if you’re settling for that
slackassassin@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Mar 00:23
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The quality is fine. It’s just vinegar, salt and peppers. It’s consistent and the peppers are aged in oak barrels. You may not like it and that’s fine too, I don’t keep it in my kitchen either, but it’s not low quality.
I used to like it, but more recently I’ve tried other brands and now tabasco just tastes bland in comparison. Last I bought it, I had to empty half the bottle in the dish and didn’t even taste it. I know they have different hotness scales, not sure if the one I bought was the hottest out there, but it was the hottest they had at the store.
Retropunk64@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 01:18
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Lmao, so when you say its good, your personal preference isn’t dictating anything, but when they say its bad, their personal preference is? You’re allowed to say you like it, they’re allowed to say they don’t. They didn’t say anything about your taste so stop being a baby and accept other people have different tastes.
Damn, the irony and gaslighting, not to mention selective reading. And on such a small and insignificant topic, no less. Quite the teen behaviour.
You’ll have to get in line and convince me if you want me to engage with your cheap attempts at proving yourself. Same for any other frustrated teen wanting to engage in keyboard warrior-ing.
Don’t take it so hard, champ. This is a friendly and funny meme thread about spicy sauces. Such a shame to hijack jokes to derail it into pettiness like that. Reddit much? 🤔
Bizarre is hijacking jokes and memes to virtue-signal and crow about what you think is good or not. And don’t conflate personal opinions with objective quality, that’s the mistake many people make that triggers an explanation on what opinions are and their worth.
Do like the others and take that frustration elsewhere, as I didn’t engage with this meme post to battle semantics with frustrated reddit users. That’s my opinion for you and of you, do what you will with it.
It’s the Pabst or maybe Bud-light of hot sauces. I’ll use it if it’s the only option, but give me 5 bucks and 5 minutes at any grocery store, and I’ll find somthing better.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 22:03
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Have you tried cholula? It’s tobasco, but with flavor beyond the vinegar base. Often cheaper as well
Shit, hard to find vinegar based sauces without vinegar as the #1 ingredient. Thanks for the recommendation! I’ve been using Melinda’s xxx hot, but it’s a pain to find. Feels like I’m playing hot sauce bingo, with all these “rare” sauces I’m juggling to stay sated
Every chilli sauce do it, the only difference is how spicy it is and the among of sauce you add to the food. A little spicy until a circulatory collapse and halucinations depends on the taste of each.
Tobacco plants: produce nicotine, a toxic alkaloid
Humans: imma smoke that shiiiiit
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 18:48
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We like our poisons in just the rights amounts.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
on 21 Mar 19:03
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Humans: I will now cultivate you, export you, protect you and make sure you’re growing well so I can keep smoking you despite a 50% chance of dying from it.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
on 21 Mar 18:58
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How fortunate then that the same species resistant to their defense actually goes on to cultivate it
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 21 Mar 19:14
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Oh, we’re not resistant, we’re just crazy enough to like the pain. Birds are resistant and don’t feel it at all, they can eat chilis like fruits.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 21:32
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It’s just relative. Most mammals don’t pay rent, taxes, or have to deal with the TSA. Once you do those things, spicy plant chemicals become a frivolous game.
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Mar 22:55
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I eat peppers just to feel something
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
on 22 Mar 05:17
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Well, given that it’s supposed to be toxic rather than just painful, I’d say we’re resistant in that it takes a high dose to kill us.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
on 22 Mar 09:14
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i wouldn’t really count body mass as resistence, by that measure every single mammal bar perhaps the field mouse is resistant to basically every toxin.
You’d have to eat a lot of pure cap to kill you. Oral LD50 in mice is 47.2 mg/kg (source). For an 80 kg person, that’s 3780 mg of pure cap. 1000mg of pure cap dropped into a pot of chili would be inedibly hot even to the most hardcore spicy food fan.
There’s a book called The Botany of Desire, by Michael Pollan, which is about this. Looking from the plants eye view of things, they have manipulated us into growing them in a huge variety of environments. The book focuses on tulips, cannabis, apples, and potatoes, iirc. Fascinating book.
Two quick examples from the book:
Pot gets us high, now we grow it in closets, warehouses, yards, basements, attics, etc.
Apples don’t reproduce true from seed, so Johnny Appleseed brought readily available cider to the Americas. (You need a cutting of an apple tree to grow that type of apple.)
I’m good with hot food, to the point I actually occasionally use nasty sauces like the infamous Da Bomb on things I legitimately eat, but I’ll never get people that say sriracha isn’t hot.
Maybe I buy a special one or something, or it varies wildly from person to person, but i like to put a good juicy squirt of sriracha on my cheese sandwiches and it definitely still clears my sinuses quite effectively.
Madison420@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 01:29
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It’s spicy but it’s not really hot but I do think it might indeed be a palette thing.
Huy Fong branded Sriracha. It’s the worst option because they fucked over their pepper suppliers so the quality is terrible now. Get any other kind of Sriracha and it’ll be better.
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
on 21 Mar 23:57
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Is it ironic that those two sauces aren’t really that hot? 😂
Delicious, yes! But very low on the Scoville scale for hot sauce.
Sriracha is now completely random from bottle to bottle. It goes from Tabasco to Carolina Reaper with no visual indicator. Turns out fucking over your loyal farmers and having to constantly scrounge has negative consequences…
Is Tabasco delicious? I find the Sriracha from couple of years ago delicious (the current one is much worse), but Tabasco always tasted like a white vinegar mixed with capsaicin.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 03:58
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Yeah, Tabasco is overrated. Get Louisiana Hot Sauce instead. A little less heat, but tastes waaaay better.
Yeah, Tabasco is the weakest link when it comes to hotsauce. Sriracha definitely is a step up, but even that has to move aside for the Buldak Sauce.
Buldak has become my go-to hotsauce. It’s so damned good.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
on 22 Mar 09:06
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the only hot sauce i’ve yet to actually find appealing is sambal olek, somehow the heat in that just makes me salivate and kinda feels more like sourness, as opposed to everything else where it’s just pain and like… no real flavour? with sambal olek i can actually taste the flavour in it.
Does anyone have an explanation for why they would evolve to prevent being eaten by mammals? I would think having mammals help spread their seeds would be beneficial?
Found the answer myself. Protects against fungal attacks. Also birds don’t have the same receptors to capsaicin.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 11:21
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Birds eat them without feeling the heat. And they can spread seeds more effectively as you can imagine.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Mar 05:28
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Adding to the other responses, birds have simple digestion systems and the seed makes it into the poop, which birds do in flight so the seed will spread. Mammals digestive systems would destroy the seeds before they can spread
nihilist_hippie@lemmy.ca
on 22 Mar 09:32
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It’s funny if you think about it: Plant makes chemical (capsaicin) to help it thrive > humans love the painful spice, start growing and propagating peppers > Peppers spread grow like crazy. Evolution working exactly as it should
Well, not all of you. We’ll massacre and purge your more moderate siblings and cousins, but we really like YOU, so we’re gonna clone you as much as we can.
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Life wouldn’t be the same without Tabasco. How could I ever eat my cotton candy or cereals without copious amounts of it?
This is a low shenanigan…
Are you calling shenanigans?
I have called shenanigans.
I’m actually surprised that I’ve never found cotton candy coated with tajin, now that you mention it.
Tabazco is for kids, try this weapon grade sauce (9 millon SHU)
hot-headz.com/…/hell-unleashed-the-hottest-sauce-…
It’s not about quantity, it’s about quality. Tabasco’s refined taste all the way.
It is about quality, that’s why I freakin’ hate tabasco
So your personal preferences dictate whether a product is good or not, and whether other people should also like it (“I do not like Tabasco, therefore its quality is shit”). Right. I’ll be sure to defer to you in my future personal tastes. 🙄
This is not a pissing contest about who can hold the most Carolina Reapers in. It’s a really subjective thing, which is why when the other commenter implied it was about hotness scale (which is valid foe those who go by it when choosing their preferred hot sauce), I personally go more by flavor. At least the other comment, while somewhat in condescending tone, was a way more productive opinion, backed with sources and actual measurements. 🤷♂️
Cheers.
I didn’t say anything about heat, just that tabasco is not a high quality sauce - It’s basically just red vinegar. If that’s what you’re into, enjoy. But you’re missing out on the good stuff if you’re settling for that
The quality is fine. It’s just vinegar, salt and peppers. It’s consistent and the peppers are aged in oak barrels. You may not like it and that’s fine too, I don’t keep it in my kitchen either, but it’s not low quality.
I used to like it, but more recently I’ve tried other brands and now tabasco just tastes bland in comparison. Last I bought it, I had to empty half the bottle in the dish and didn’t even taste it. I know they have different hotness scales, not sure if the one I bought was the hottest out there, but it was the hottest they had at the store.
Lmao, so when you say its good, your personal preference isn’t dictating anything, but when they say its bad, their personal preference is? You’re allowed to say you like it, they’re allowed to say they don’t. They didn’t say anything about your taste so stop being a baby and accept other people have different tastes.
Damn, the irony and gaslighting, not to mention selective reading. And on such a small and insignificant topic, no less. Quite the teen behaviour.
You’ll have to get in line and convince me if you want me to engage with your cheap attempts at proving yourself. Same for any other frustrated teen wanting to engage in keyboard warrior-ing.
Don’t take it so hard, champ. This is a friendly and funny meme thread about spicy sauces. Such a shame to hijack jokes to derail it into pettiness like that. Reddit much? 🤔
What a bizarre comment. People don’t need to have what opinions are explained, do they?
Bizarre is hijacking jokes and memes to virtue-signal and crow about what you think is good or not. And don’t conflate personal opinions with objective quality, that’s the mistake many people make that triggers an explanation on what opinions are and their worth.
Do like the others and take that frustration elsewhere, as I didn’t engage with this meme post to battle semantics with frustrated reddit users. That’s my opinion for you and of you, do what you will with it.
It’s the Pabst or maybe Bud-light of hot sauces. I’ll use it if it’s the only option, but give me 5 bucks and 5 minutes at any grocery store, and I’ll find somthing better.
Have you tried cholula? It’s tobasco, but with flavor beyond the vinegar base. Often cheaper as well
Nope, but now I want to. Thanks.
Cholula is my go-to sauce that I can get anywhere for cheap. If I can get it, Blair’s Original Death Sauce is the way to go.
Shit, hard to find vinegar based sauces without vinegar as the #1 ingredient. Thanks for the recommendation! I’ve been using Melinda’s xxx hot, but it’s a pain to find. Feels like I’m playing hot sauce bingo, with all these “rare” sauces I’m juggling to stay sated
Every chilli sauce do it, the only difference is how spicy it is and the among of sauce you add to the food. A little spicy until a circulatory collapse and halucinations depends on the taste of each.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-KzGKoLHXk
Oh, your sauce is mild at best, you wanna try this instead… (13 million SHU)
Just pepper spray your mouth at that point.
Tobacco plants: produce nicotine, a toxic alkaloid
Humans: imma smoke that shiiiiit
We like our poisons in just the rights amounts.
Humans: I will now cultivate you, export you, protect you and make sure you’re growing well so I can keep smoking you despite a 50% chance of dying from it.
Tobacco clearly has the last laugh in this story.
Well, it’s not like we’re immortal if we abstain.
I am
With a name like The Fartographer, I’m inclined to believe you. 👍
Until proof to the contrary, so am I
Let’s go fight in an epic clash of the immortals! First one to die, loses!
I dunno, it could go on forever
Every second I’ve lived so far, I haven’t died, so if we simply take that pattern and extrapolate it for each future second…
One or two particular strains out of the entire vast diversity of tobacco plants is having the last laugh.
If no eat, why so delicious?
I dunno, seems to have worked out for the chillis - there’s more of them now than ever before
That’s because evolution is a results-driven process. All that matters is making viable offspring. Doesn’t matter how it gets done.
Not brrrrr, more like kssss
How fortunate then that the same species resistant to their defense actually goes on to cultivate it
Oh, we’re not resistant, we’re just crazy enough to like the pain. Birds are resistant and don’t feel it at all, they can eat chilis like fruits.
It’s just relative. Most mammals don’t pay rent, taxes, or have to deal with the TSA. Once you do those things, spicy plant chemicals become a frivolous game.
I eat peppers just to feel something
Well, given that it’s supposed to be toxic rather than just painful, I’d say we’re resistant in that it takes a high dose to kill us.
i wouldn’t really count body mass as resistence, by that measure every single mammal bar perhaps the field mouse is resistant to basically every toxin.
You’d have to eat a lot of pure cap to kill you. Oral LD50 in mice is 47.2 mg/kg (source). For an 80 kg person, that’s 3780 mg of pure cap. 1000mg of pure cap dropped into a pot of chili would be inedibly hot even to the most hardcore spicy food fan.
There’s a book called The Botany of Desire, by Michael Pollan, which is about this. Looking from the plants eye view of things, they have manipulated us into growing them in a huge variety of environments. The book focuses on tulips, cannabis, apples, and potatoes, iirc. Fascinating book.
Two quick examples from the book:
Pot gets us high, now we grow it in closets, warehouses, yards, basements, attics, etc.
Apples don’t reproduce true from seed, so Johnny Appleseed brought readily available cider to the Americas. (You need a cutting of an apple tree to grow that type of apple.)
Sometimes it also makes your ass go brrrrrr…
In the meantime, birds be like: “ultrahot? nom nom fruity”
What’s the sauce on the right?
Hot cock sauce
Sriracha sauce, it’s really good
Very good though neither of those are very hot.
Nothing actually said “hot” though
Not explicitly, but not hot sauces aren’t painful, so you’re just being deliberately obtuse.
Tabasco www.tabasco.com #1 Hot Sauce Asked For By Name | TABASCO® Brand Pepper Sauce
Clearly hot sauce was never implied, not once.
I’m good with hot food, to the point I actually occasionally use nasty sauces like the infamous Da Bomb on things I legitimately eat, but I’ll never get people that say sriracha isn’t hot.
Maybe I buy a special one or something, or it varies wildly from person to person, but i like to put a good juicy squirt of sriracha on my cheese sandwiches and it definitely still clears my sinuses quite effectively.
It’s spicy but it’s not really hot but I do think it might indeed be a palette thing.
Or just personal definition, i see you use spicy, but I just call everything that can give me the sniffles “hot”.
When I say something’s spicy I’m usually referring to literally a large amount/variation of spices, which aren’t necessarily hot at all.
What about pepper, it’s not hot it’s spicy but enough will 100% make your eyes water and burn your mouth.
There’s really high variation between bottles after the pepper suppliers fiasco.
Huy Fong branded Sriracha. It’s the worst option because they fucked over their pepper suppliers so the quality is terrible now. Get any other kind of Sriracha and it’ll be better.
Is it ironic that those two sauces aren’t really that hot? 😂
Delicious, yes! But very low on the Scoville scale for hot sauce.
Sriracha is now completely random from bottle to bottle. It goes from Tabasco to Carolina Reaper with no visual indicator. Turns out fucking over your loyal farmers and having to constantly scrounge has negative consequences…
Is Tabasco delicious? I find the Sriracha from couple of years ago delicious (the current one is much worse), but Tabasco always tasted like a white vinegar mixed with capsaicin.
Yeah, Tabasco is overrated. Get Louisiana Hot Sauce instead. A little less heat, but tastes waaaay better.
Tabasco sauce, and the peppers, are good for some foods, not so much for others. There is no ULTIMATE hot sauce, just what works.
Tabasco is my breakfast hot sauce. Goes on omelettes, sausage, etc. More flavor than spice, really, just a little kick.
Tobasco is great on pizza, but that’s about all I use it for.
Exactly! Delicious.
Valentina is my favorite. Both the black and yellow labels are good, but I like drenching shit with the yellow (milder one).
Valentina is really tasty. Cholula is also nice.
None are HOT, though. 😂
Yeah, Tabasco is the weakest link when it comes to hotsauce. Sriracha definitely is a step up, but even that has to move aside for the Buldak Sauce.
Buldak has become my go-to hotsauce. It’s so damned good.
the only hot sauce i’ve yet to actually find appealing is sambal olek, somehow the heat in that just makes me salivate and kinda feels more like sourness, as opposed to everything else where it’s just pain and like… no real flavour? with sambal olek i can actually taste the flavour in it.
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meanwhile chinese cooking: i’ll have all 3 at once please
And it’s so. Damn. Delicious.
And Indian cooking! Curries are love. Especially with an immersion blender.
It’s sort of what happens though. A plant gets a defense mechanism, it becomes more abundant, something will target that abundant food source.
If not delicious then why delicious shaped?
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Does anyone have an explanation for why they would evolve to prevent being eaten by mammals? I would think having mammals help spread their seeds would be beneficial?
Found the answer myself. Protects against fungal attacks. Also birds don’t have the same receptors to capsaicin.
Birds eat them without feeling the heat. And they can spread seeds more effectively as you can imagine.
Adding to the other responses, birds have simple digestion systems and the seed makes it into the poop, which birds do in flight so the seed will spread. Mammals digestive systems would destroy the seeds before they can spread
It’s funny if you think about it: Plant makes chemical (capsaicin) to help it thrive > humans love the painful spice, start growing and propagating peppers > Peppers spread grow like crazy. Evolution working exactly as it should
Plant: “I will let you feel pain”. Humans: “Jokes on you, I’m into that shit”
I will never understand the attraction. I sometimes find Ketchup too spicy.
Some people just like the pain. I don’t mind it spicy, but the flavor is more important to me.
HUMANS: Hey peppers, we like what you’re doing, a-
PEPPERS: HOW‽‽ IT’S SUPPOSED TO HURT Y-
HUMANS: -nd we wanted to produce as many of you as we can in a controlled environment.
PEPPERS: …
Blinks in disbeliefGo on…?Well, not all of you. We’ll massacre and purge your more moderate siblings and cousins, but we really like YOU, so we’re gonna clone you as much as we can.
You’re welcome.
Butt also go Brrr after eating to much spicy
You get to enjoy spicy food twice.
Feature
Nope, pretty much just the mouth, over here, no butt or tummy brrr-ing.
Why is the chili wearing a cape? Or is that… hair?