Reminds me of the advice my dad gave me on my wedding night: “if you ever go to Australia for any reason, then be prepared to kill a herd of elephants”
I just realised where It Follows got its inspiration from
roguetrick@lemmy.world
on 17 Apr 12:46
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Blue ringed octopus is just using tetrodotoxin though, it’s not like they developed that toxin through evolution. Bacteria are the ones that made TTX so toxic. I’m not impressed.
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org
on 17 Apr 14:27
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Bacteria be like “You merely adopted the tetrodotoxin. I was born in it, molded by it…”
dumbass@leminal.space
on 17 Apr 12:55
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Yeah, but why possibly kill when you can definitely kill?!
Making all that extra poison constantly ain’t cheap. You also have to keep it from killing you. Which means they absolutely needed that much poison. What horror lies beneath Australia…
misteloct@lemmy.world
on 17 Apr 14:17
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Genocide is evolutionary beneficial for the toxin producer, maybe there’s a ring of truth to it. Poison everything around you, free up resources for yourself.
Well, if all it takes is 6 kg, I don’t think it would be that hard to make like a few tons and fly around the world throwing a kg at a time into any body of water you find.
Sure, you wouldn’t kill everyone, but probably most 🤷♂️
Literally everyone dies except a few that drink only bottled water. Society is now 90% people who believe that alkaline water is magic
Riversedgeknight1@lemmy.world
on 17 Apr 22:10
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More likely 10-15% of people die then everyone figures out it’s the water, identified the cause of death, develops filters to remove the toxin, and then the filter becomes commercialized.
Like the first half of the movie is just what you would expect from a batman movie, but then after thousands die and batman catches the villan it just conintues into a documentary about how this event eventully led to the “2026 Water protection law” and the political fights around it.
Simple. Start a new plandemic and give out free vaccines! It worked last time, that’s why we’re all dead.
detector9777@lemmy.world
on 17 Apr 13:15
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Great meme. Keep it up!
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
on 17 Apr 13:30
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I feel like if evolution is correct (I’m confident it is) then it must be evolutionarily advantageous to have the capacity to kill a herd of elephants with one’s toxin, assuming all animals in the group have that capacity.
A lot of people think of “venomous” as being a one-dimensional property like strength or speed that you have to build your way up towards. But really it’s just how this substance your body produces that reacts with another substance in another creature who evolved on a whole other continent to you.
There doesn’t need to be a strong evolutionary imperative to be able to kill a herd of elephants, it’s enough for there to not be a strong disincentive not to produce enough venom to do it.
right but if I’m thinking correctly (maybe not) then if it “merely” wasn’t harmful, wouldn’t there be room for variation within the species of toxicity?
rumschlumpel@feddit.org
on 17 Apr 14:16
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Very few animals (probably none) that rely on venom have any need for killing elephants, including those who live near elephants. What’s a spider supposed to do with a 2 ton carcass?
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Apr 00:59
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What’s a spider supposed to do with a 2 ton carcass?
Death held out a hand. I WANT, he said, A BOOK ABOUT THE DANGEROUS CREATURES OF FOURECKS-
Albert looked up and dived for cover, receiving only mild bruising because he had the foresight to curl into a ball.
After a while Death, his voice a little muffled, said: ALBERT, I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A HAND HERE.
Albert scrambled up and pulled at some of the huge volumes, finally dislodging enough of them for his master to clamber free.
HMM… Death picked up a book at random and read the cover. “DANGEROUS MAMMALS, REPTILES, AMPHIBIANS, BIRDS, FISH, JELLYFISH, INSECTS, SPIDERS, CRUSTACEANS, GRASSES, TREES, MOSSES, AND LICHENS OF TERROR INCOGNITA,” he read. His gaze moved down the spine. VOLUME 29C, he added. OH. PART THREE, I SEE.
He glanced up at the listening shelves. POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?
They waited.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT-
“No, wait master. Here it comes.”
Albert pointed to something white zigzagging lazily through the air. Finally Death reached up an caught the single sheet of paper.
He read it carefully and then turned it over briefly just in case anything was written on the other side.
“May I?” said Albert. Death handed him the paper.
“‘Some of the sheep,’” Albert read aloud. “Oh, well. Maybe a week at the seaside’d be better, then.”
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
on 17 Apr 14:50
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Never enough Discworld
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Apr 17:03
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judgyweevil@feddit.it
on 17 Apr 14:01
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They understood perfectly well, too bad that they have no idea what an elephant is so they got venom that could kill anything, just in case
Waste of points, could spent it into INT or HP. Fucking glass cannon species.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 17 Apr 19:31
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Kill? Why not paralyze or severely wound? Slow enough that you can kill with I don’t know a pointed stick, rock or gravity? Why make the venom do all the dirty work?
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I love Australia but I’ve always wondered what exactly it is about Australia that made evolution go “yes, let’s make this place like Master Mode in BOTW where everything is OP, wants to kill you, and can one-shot you”
sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Apr 21:36
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Castle doctrine but it’s mother nature and also sometimes your house
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Apr 00:49
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It’s really more of an easy mode with a couple of super unlucky bullshit gameovers scattered around than a master mode. Look at how many builds have overtaken the Australian meta since their introduction: dogs, cats (okay, they’re an apex predator everywhere), foxes, rabbits, cane toads, mice, rats, deer, camels, scottish thistles, horses… I could go on.
I mean yeah it’s one-shot land but I’d feel more comfortable in the Australian bush than in other territories, a lot of these creatures can be avoided with a little bit of knowledge and caution, but there’s no large predators
Most large creatures here can beat the shit out of you but they wouldn’t unless you threatened them.
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You never know when you’ll need to kill a herd of elephants, better be prepared.
Don’t tell me what to do, you are not my dad!
Reminds me of the advice my dad gave me on my wedding night: “if you ever go to Australia for any reason, then be prepared to kill a herd of elephants”
Words that I live by to this day
You’re not mad at me, you’re mad at your dad! I forgive you!
Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Evolution is just future-proofing Australian animals.
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I’m a fan of “if it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing poorly”
Hrm... so then for you, "poorly" is "right"!? 😜
Don’t forget the sea kraits that live off the coast in Australian waters
First line of defence
And the inland taipan, the most venomous snake in the world!
Well, I guess they aren’t a sea krait anymore, blabber mouth!
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I saw a snail hunting a pack of elephants yesterday, the elephant was screaming something about him being immortal and if he touched him he would die.
I just realised where It Follows got its inspiration from
Blue ringed octopus is just using tetrodotoxin though, it’s not like they developed that toxin through evolution. Bacteria are the ones that made TTX so toxic. I’m not impressed.
Bacteria be like “You merely adopted the tetrodotoxin. I was born in it, molded by it…”
Yeah, but why possibly kill when you can definitely kill?!
And it isn’t like you’ll be punished evolutionarily if you ultra kill.
Making all that extra poison constantly ain’t cheap. You also have to keep it from killing you. Which means they absolutely needed that much poison. What horror lies beneath Australia…
Yeah, we’re not allowed to talk about that to non Australians, it’s better if you don’t know.
Wait until you hear about deadly toxin producing bacteria.
You only need about 6 kg of Clostridium botulinum to produce enough toxins to kill all mammals on earth.
Assumptions:
Can I buy that on Amazon?
You can make it at home!
Just need to isolate the correct bacterium first.
Genocide is evolutionary beneficial for the toxin producer, maybe there’s a ring of truth to it. Poison everything around you, free up resources for yourself.
I always wondered if the toxin didn’t kill the bacteria.
Bacteria doesn’t have nerve cells.
Yes but the delivery is a problem. How do we package, ship and then get each mammal on earth to ingest 150 ng of the toxin?
Well, if all it takes is 6 kg, I don’t think it would be that hard to make like a few tons and fly around the world throwing a kg at a time into any body of water you find.
Sure, you wouldn’t kill everyone, but probably most 🤷♂️
Are you a Batman villain, threatening to poison Gotham’s water supply.
It would a lot less interesting.
Literally everyone dies except a few that drink only bottled water. Society is now 90% people who believe that alkaline water is magic
More likely 10-15% of people die then everyone figures out it’s the water, identified the cause of death, develops filters to remove the toxin, and then the filter becomes commercialized.
Like the first half of the movie is just what you would expect from a batman movie, but then after thousands die and batman catches the villan it just conintues into a documentary about how this event eventully led to the “2026 Water protection law” and the political fights around it.
I think about 96% of mammal biomass is either humans or domestic animals so if we ignore the 4% wild animals it suddenly because a much easier task.
Like, throwing enough botulinum toxin into the ocean to kill all the whales would be annoying.
Deliciosa soup for their family?
Simple. Start a new plandemic and give out free vaccines! It worked last time, that’s why we’re all dead.
Great meme. Keep it up!
I feel like if evolution is correct (I’m confident it is) then it must be evolutionarily advantageous to have the capacity to kill a herd of elephants with one’s toxin, assuming all animals in the group have that capacity.
A lot of people think of “venomous” as being a one-dimensional property like strength or speed that you have to build your way up towards. But really it’s just how this substance your body produces that reacts with another substance in another creature who evolved on a whole other continent to you.
There doesn’t need to be a strong evolutionary imperative to be able to kill a herd of elephants, it’s enough for there to not be a strong disincentive not to produce enough venom to do it.
right but if I’m thinking correctly (maybe not) then if it “merely” wasn’t harmful, wouldn’t there be room for variation within the species of toxicity?
Basically it means the animal’s prey(/predators for defensive toxins) has evolved a massive resistance to the toxin that elephants haven’t.
Australian animals don’t need to kill Elephants
Apparently they didn’t get the memo.
Very few animals (probably none) that rely on venom have any need for killing elephants, including those who live near elephants. What’s a spider supposed to do with a 2 ton carcass?
It’s for the achievement.
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Not anymore
Resistance?
I mean if the venom you stumble into is too strong, would you bother weakening it?
Death held out a hand. I WANT, he said, A BOOK ABOUT THE DANGEROUS CREATURES OF FOURECKS-
Albert looked up and dived for cover, receiving only mild bruising because he had the foresight to curl into a ball.
After a while Death, his voice a little muffled, said: ALBERT, I WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A HAND HERE.
Albert scrambled up and pulled at some of the huge volumes, finally dislodging enough of them for his master to clamber free.
HMM… Death picked up a book at random and read the cover. “DANGEROUS MAMMALS, REPTILES, AMPHIBIANS, BIRDS, FISH, JELLYFISH, INSECTS, SPIDERS, CRUSTACEANS, GRASSES, TREES, MOSSES, AND LICHENS OF TERROR INCOGNITA,” he read. His gaze moved down the spine. VOLUME 29C, he added. OH. PART THREE, I SEE.
He glanced up at the listening shelves. POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?
They waited.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT-
“No, wait master. Here it comes.”
Albert pointed to something white zigzagging lazily through the air. Finally Death reached up an caught the single sheet of paper.
He read it carefully and then turned it over briefly just in case anything was written on the other side.
“May I?” said Albert. Death handed him the paper.
“‘Some of the sheep,’” Albert read aloud. “Oh, well. Maybe a week at the seaside’d be better, then.”
Never enough Discworld
They understood perfectly well, too bad that they have no idea what an elephant is so they got venom that could kill anything, just in case
Their ancestors knew. And they solved that problem.
Maybe it softens up their meat all nice and tender
Cone snails represent
Waste of points, could spent it into INT or HP. Fucking glass cannon species.
Kill? Why not paralyze or severely wound? Slow enough that you can kill with I don’t know a pointed stick, rock or gravity? Why make the venom do all the dirty work?
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I love Australia but I’ve always wondered what exactly it is about Australia that made evolution go “yes, let’s make this place like Master Mode in BOTW where everything is OP, wants to kill you, and can one-shot you”
Castle doctrine but it’s mother nature and also sometimes your house
It’s really more of an easy mode with a couple of super unlucky bullshit gameovers scattered around than a master mode. Look at how many builds have overtaken the Australian meta since their introduction: dogs, cats (okay, they’re an apex predator everywhere), foxes, rabbits, cane toads, mice, rats, deer, camels, scottish thistles, horses… I could go on.
I mean yeah it’s one-shot land but I’d feel more comfortable in the Australian bush than in other territories, a lot of these creatures can be avoided with a little bit of knowledge and caution, but there’s no large predators
Most large creatures here can beat the shit out of you but they wouldn’t unless you threatened them.
The emus didnt only start a war with humans u know.
Fucking warmongering dinosaur cunts…
Perhaps we have not yet found the animals that they have had to kill in the past to survive…
Sometimes I wonder if this is a deathworld by planetary standards. Like we go to other planets and its super chill.
Something like the first part this: youtu.be/x1aZEz8BQiU?ol0IyB2BmDW4VBov