Yeah, the OP (fossilesque) posts “neither meme nor science” shit all the time. Also, they’re a mod, and post their totally off topic/not meme posts regardless of complaints and reports.
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In fact, I believe fossilesque changed the rules of this community today or yesterday to allow infographics after I reported a post here. It was only today that I learned this person is also a moderator
There was a time when every meme in this community felt like I was either learning something and the all the memes were of a spectacular quality. Now it just feels like shit posts mark 2
“The People” upvote things in this community more than any other community (like by 5 or 6 times the amount of votes) in have seen in my federated feed. Either this is what “The People” want, or there is something else afoot.
Given this data, I think I can reasonably predict that lyrics of pop songs in about 20 or 30 years will mostly consist of cursing. Maybe even sooner given my personal impression of pop songs repeating their lines more often each decade.
Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 26 Jun 15:18
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Fucking hell, this damn shit-ass is making us read this bitch-dick piss /s
Maybe it’s because I listen to some pretty dystopian stuff, but I’m surprised Hell isn’t more popular. Then again, I suppose the billboard hits are usually a bit more bubbly than all that.
kwomp2@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Jun 15:47
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I never understood how “hell” and “damn” are considered forbidden words by christian-conservatives. The stem directly from their own vocabulary, they are all about those categories, yet they don’t want to see them in discourse
Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
on 26 Jun 16:11
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I don’t know for sure, but I believe it’s a context issue.
There’s nothing wrong with discussing the size and consistency of my bowel movements with my doctor, but it’s probably not OK for me to do that with a stranger on the bus.
That makes sense. Your doc wouldn’t try to convince your shit explains the universe tho
Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml
on 26 Jun 20:56
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Quebec swear words are almost all Catholicism-derived. The Tabernacle, the Host, the Chalice, the Virgin, etc.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
on 28 Jun 13:07
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It’s the irreverence with which they are used. If the average European medieval peasant affirm their sincerity and honesty by saying “May God damn me to hell if I lie”, that’s an (implicit) oath. They’re putting their salvation on the line. That’s how serious the matter at hand is.
If I casually say “damn, that ass”, I’m using a boiled down version of that (when the oath formula becomes so widespread, people start omitting words because everyone knows what you mean anyway, even if you just say “God Damn me” and eventually just “damn”). But I’m not doing it out of a devout belief that the thing I’m saying warrants reinforcement by invoking divine wrath. I’m abusing the sanctity of good for an entirely profane matter. I’m reducing God’s power and wrarh to a colloquial tool.
Damn that hell of a good explanation, thank god I can use those holy words in the future with their whole blasphemic potential. Ironically, it will prolly make me sound like a christian…
refalo@programming.dev
on 26 Jun 16:07
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I’m sure that definitely contributed. But I think another big thing is that with the advent of the internet, artists don’t have to worry about censorship as much.
Back in the day, you used to discover new music through the radio. At least in the US, radio does not allow for curse words to be broadcasted. Sure, artists will often have both explicit and clean radio edits, but some just don’t bother and make one clean version instead.
Now that many people listen to and discover new music on platforms like Spotify, YouTube Music, Tidal, SoundCloud, etc., people don’t have to worry about censorship as much.
I could be wrong, though. It’s just a hypothesis. Maybe it was solely rap/hip hop and not much else!
whotookkarl@lemmy.world
on 26 Jun 22:00
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I find Frank Zappa’s opposition to censorship pretty inspiring and hope this trend continues:
“The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it’s moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that’s happened during the Regan administration is steering us right down that pipe. […] When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun.”
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There’s some fantastic memes in this community. This is neither a meme or science. Post it to !dataisbeautiful@mander.xyz
I absolutely agree, but it was already posted there 6 days ago: reddthat.com/post/20943545
Yeah, the OP (fossilesque) posts “neither meme nor science” shit all the time. Also, they’re a mod, and post their totally off topic/not meme posts regardless of complaints and reports.
Edit:
In fact, I believe fossilesque changed the rules of this community today or yesterday to allow infographics after I reported a post here. It was only today that I learned this person is also a moderator
There was a time when every meme in this community felt like I was either learning something and the all the memes were of a spectacular quality. Now it just feels like shit posts mark 2
“The People” upvote things in this community more than any other community (like by 5 or 6 times the amount of votes) in have seen in my federated feed. Either this is what “The People” want, or there is something else afoot.
Either way, it’s disappointing
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Given this data, I think I can reasonably predict that lyrics of pop songs in about 20 or 30 years will mostly consist of cursing. Maybe even sooner given my personal impression of pop songs repeating their lines more often each decade.
Fuck shit stack
m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5bW8H-kNZs
Sons of Butcher’s got the rock genre covered in that respect.
Data confirms that it was around the same time Tipper Gore got triggered.
So some time between 1975 and 2000. If only the graphs had some labels near the relevant part of the data…
Looks to be around the beginning of the 90s or late 80s.
What happened to make it peak in the mid 70s level off for a while and then spike in the mid 90s?
At a guess, the invention of heavy metal. I don’t mean lead and stuff btw
rap
Fucking hell, this damn shit-ass is making us read this bitch-dick piss /s
Maybe it’s because I listen to some pretty dystopian stuff, but I’m surprised Hell isn’t more popular. Then again, I suppose the billboard hits are usually a bit more bubbly than all that.
I never understood how “hell” and “damn” are considered forbidden words by christian-conservatives. The stem directly from their own vocabulary, they are all about those categories, yet they don’t want to see them in discourse
I don’t know for sure, but I believe it’s a context issue.
There’s nothing wrong with discussing the size and consistency of my bowel movements with my doctor, but it’s probably not OK for me to do that with a stranger on the bus.
That makes sense. Your doc wouldn’t try to convince your shit explains the universe tho
Quebec swear words are almost all Catholicism-derived. The Tabernacle, the Host, the Chalice, the Virgin, etc.
It’s the irreverence with which they are used. If the average European medieval peasant affirm their sincerity and honesty by saying “May God damn me to hell if I lie”, that’s an (implicit) oath. They’re putting their salvation on the line. That’s how serious the matter at hand is.
If I casually say “damn, that ass”, I’m using a boiled down version of that (when the oath formula becomes so widespread, people start omitting words because everyone knows what you mean anyway, even if you just say “God Damn me” and eventually just “damn”). But I’m not doing it out of a devout belief that the thing I’m saying warrants reinforcement by invoking divine wrath. I’m abusing the sanctity of good for an entirely profane matter. I’m reducing God’s power and wrarh to a colloquial tool.
Damn that hell of a good explanation, thank god I can use those holy words in the future with their whole blasphemic potential. Ironically, it will prolly make me sound like a christian…
so basically it was caused by rap music
Gimme a soft ‘a’ chart!
Strays gonna be EXTREMELY skewed in 2007, though.
I would definitely like to see a set of charts like this separated out by musical genre.
The increase in the use of “hell” must come from metal.
I’m sure that definitely contributed. But I think another big thing is that with the advent of the internet, artists don’t have to worry about censorship as much.
Back in the day, you used to discover new music through the radio. At least in the US, radio does not allow for curse words to be broadcasted. Sure, artists will often have both explicit and clean radio edits, but some just don’t bother and make one clean version instead.
Now that many people listen to and discover new music on platforms like Spotify, YouTube Music, Tidal, SoundCloud, etc., people don’t have to worry about censorship as much.
I could be wrong, though. It’s just a hypothesis. Maybe it was solely rap/hip hop and not much else!
I remember the damn shit bitch blip of '75.
Piss is too low. Artists need to step it up
Sophia Urista doing her part…
Then there was R. Kelly…
The Yellow River Boys really tried.
I find Frank Zappa’s opposition to censorship pretty inspiring and hope this trend continues:
“The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it’s moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that’s happened during the Regan administration is steering us right down that pipe. […] When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun.”
Based Frank Zappa
Wait… the 1950’s had music with the word fuck in it?
More like 60s
Wait, I found the 50’s music with “Fuck” in it - www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuK85ssX67Y
How do I get a grant to do this kind of research
Eat bite fuck suck gobble nibble chew
Please post the source next time. I spent 2 minutes looking for it: …substack.com/…/when-the-fck-did-we-start-singing