Dead smile of someone who had too many pictures taken of them as a child. I like to think I preserved my authenticity by being a little monster during pictures as a child.
Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website
on 21 Jun 12:37
nextcollapse
Hanlon’s Razor and all that, but I just assume that’s to drive up interaction in the post.
Rant/ramble ahead, you can skip:
By misspelling something, or just doing/saying something that common sense should say is wrong (“life hack, I just discovered this thing that literally every 5 year old already knows about”) you will draw out all the people who are genuinely trying to help, people who just can’t help themselves but smugly correct someone, people who THINK they know the right way but aren’t sure, people who claim to have never seen the right way before, and all the bitch fights such comments produce.
The increased interactions make the post do better in algorithms, which means it goes out to more and more people, who continue the cycle.
My wife watches short form endless scrolling videos despite knowing how bad those are for your mental health, and some of the people she stops to watch are CONSTANTLY pulling the “common sense says otherwise” one. Like my dude you did NOT just figure out in your 20s that you can wait for the shower to warm up before you get in. Literal toddlers know better. It’s such a simple thing, I genuinely do not believe anyone in their 20s just gets in the shower while the water is still cold because they never figured out they can wait for the warm water. But hoooo boy did their video take off and have millions of views, and thousands of comments about how wild that is.
abfarid@startrek.website
on 21 Jun 13:02
nextcollapse
Well, she’s a flat earther, so how does the sun set work without God?
Xander_Meters@discuss.tchncs.de
on 21 Jun 11:08
nextcollapse
Their
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Jun 11:48
nextcollapse
Isn’t it more of a blue shift / red shift situation, rather than scattering?
rockSlayer@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 11:52
nextcollapse
No, it’s definitely atmospheric scattering. Blue and red shifting occurs when interstellar objects accelerate towards or away from us near the speed of light
There is a very small amount of red shift. If you were standing on the equator watching a sunset, then your radial velocity relative to the sun is only ~461m/s. So the green light from the sun 550nm would be red shifted by +0.0008nm. That little red shift wouldn’t be noticeable. However, as the sun sets there’s a lot more atmosphere in the way, which scatters blue light more than red light (Why the sky is blue). Also in a sunrise you are moving towards the sun, so sunrises would be blue! :P
I feel like there’s a lot of these, where someone says “how do you explain [extremely basic, everyday thing] without [religion]?”, it’s kinda weird. Like being a certain level of religious makes you immune to all common sense.
I think what they are trying to say is that the emotional experience they have when they look at a sunset is similar to the emotional experience that gives them conviction that there is a God. It's not a statement of objective fact about the universe and its processes; it's a statement about their mental and emotional life and how they want to feel inside their own head.
Although, maybe they are saying that no one knows how sunsets work and so therefore a wizard did it. I would hope it is that first thing though.
I feel like it has to be the second thing, but not everyone has those religious experiences, and even the religious don’t always correlate these things to God. It just requires so many layers of weird assumption that I really don’t know what to think.
There, you’re starting to get it! That’s exactly what the religious do. Get confused, start using “god did it” as a gap filler in their knowledge, and soon, they “know” less than nothing.
gnutrino@programming.dev
on 21 Jun 12:56
nextcollapse
Although, maybe they are saying that no one knows how sunsets work and so therefore a wizard did it. I would hope it is that first thing though.
There is still a decent chance it’s the second tbh. Fucking magnets/tide goes in etc.
Confused_Emus@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 14:01
collapse
In my experience of these zealot types, it's that they don't want to know the answer, and won't accept any answer that isn't literally bulletproof all the way back to the beginning of time - no matter what you tell them, God did it.
It's like playing a pigeon at chess. It'll shit on the board and then strut around like it won.
Well that’s a fairly consistent pov. “God of the Gaps” is what it’s called. Ostensibly, that sort of person accepts new evidence for things, so it’s probably not one of the worst ways to think
But that's not what I'm talking about, nor are those the types of people I'm talking about - people willing to take in new ideas are a much friendlier bunch.
The zealot types, the self-proclaimed "sceptics" don't just avoid learning about science, they actively oppose it. They ask questions like those @Ibaudia said not because they want to know the answer, but because they're trying to sow seeds of doubt into those who see them.
Those questions aren't made for you or I to answer - and if you do try, they'll shout you down or sandbag you until you give up.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 15:11
nextcollapse
won’t accept any answer that isn’t literally bulletproof
Quite fitting, then, that the Venn diagram of people who would literally shoot bullets at a question and people who are religious is pretty much a circle 😉
These are emotional people with absolutely no care or enjoyment for reason or logic or learning how the world works. I believe strongly that the way our brains develop as we grow, be it influences from environment or genes or upbringing, just can go in radically different directions. Kind of like how some people have no internal monologue, or some people can’t visualize images in their mind, I think some people can’t comprehend the world outside of a very “mystical” interpretation, even when taught how physics and evolution work, they still will see those forces as expressions of a mystical universe with a personal, subjective God who is trying to communicate with them.
You absolutely cannot reason with this kind of perspective because it’s not one of reason. The MOST you can hope for is getting them to feel something, and in this I have only ever found common ground in things like expressions of love for the universe or the beauty of nature, but that’s like one person going to the baseball game to watch the game, and the other to eat the food.
I believe strongly that the way our brains develop as we grow, be it influences from environment or genes or upbringing, just can go in radically different directions.
Well, you’re right.
and the other to eat the food.
Bad deal, stadion food is usually overpriced.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jun 17:15
nextcollapse
They’re just shuffling cards. They will make whatever mouth noises get to their foregone conclusion. This is how they perform loyalty to the ingroup.
They think that’s all you’re doing, because they think that’s all there is.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jun 18:19
collapse
“Tide comes in, tide goes out. You can’t explain that!” —Bill O’Reilly
abfarid@startrek.website
on 21 Jun 12:58
nextcollapse
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Jun 18:15
collapse
That’s the online universal way to indicate sarcasm
StaySquared@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 15:03
nextcollapse
That’s a really rudimentary question for a religious person to ask. But then again nothing really surprises me anymore. Oh wait more than likely a non-Muslim / non-Jew would ask such a question. Carry on.
niktemadur@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 15:43
nextcollapse
Their is the ciense
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip
on 21 Jun 16:17
nextcollapse
Thank you r/atheism
samus12345@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 16:26
nextcollapse
Get a ball, hold it between your eye and a light source. I know that some natural phenomena are hard to explain, but this one is really easy to conceptualize.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world
on 21 Jun 17:20
nextcollapse
threaded - newest
Their
<img alt="" src="https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/186de7ef-9c8a-42ee-8006-3182c18aa3c3.jpeg">
How do you explain me looking this psycho if there is no SATAN
<img alt="" src="https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/c924898b-746d-49dc-8da2-81efeb59e249.jpeg">
The devil is real!!
Yep! That’s him!!!
Well, it takes one to know one!
Do all devils have a private jet? Or just this one?
Yes. Therefore, Taylor Swift must also be a devil. Science.
How can someone so “filled with the light of god” look so darn angry all the time?
Dead smile of someone who had too many pictures taken of them as a child. I like to think I preserved my authenticity by being a little monster during pictures as a child.
Hanlon’s Razor and all that, but I just assume that’s to drive up interaction in the post.
Rant/ramble ahead, you can skip:
By misspelling something, or just doing/saying something that common sense should say is wrong (“life hack, I just discovered this thing that literally every 5 year old already knows about”) you will draw out all the people who are genuinely trying to help, people who just can’t help themselves but smugly correct someone, people who THINK they know the right way but aren’t sure, people who claim to have never seen the right way before, and all the bitch fights such comments produce.
The increased interactions make the post do better in algorithms, which means it goes out to more and more people, who continue the cycle.
My wife watches short form endless scrolling videos despite knowing how bad those are for your mental health, and some of the people she stops to watch are CONSTANTLY pulling the “common sense says otherwise” one. Like my dude you did NOT just figure out in your 20s that you can wait for the shower to warm up before you get in. Literal toddlers know better. It’s such a simple thing, I genuinely do not believe anyone in their 20s just gets in the shower while the water is still cold because they never figured out they can wait for the warm water. But hoooo boy did their video take off and have millions of views, and thousands of comments about how wild that is.
They’re*
There, there
Xere, xere
Hare, bear
Whenever these people write something, the spelling mistakes are all but inevitable. I’m really impressed if they manage to spell a whole sentence.
Their isnoogod, your isnoogod, my isnoogod
It’s not racket skiense
The sun just… set? I don’t understand what is to be explained.
Idiots. You shouldn’t care to explain anything, they are beyond dumb.
Well, she’s a flat earther, so how does the sun set work without God?
Their
Isn’t it more of a blue shift / red shift situation, rather than scattering?
No, it’s definitely atmospheric scattering. Blue and red shifting occurs when interstellar objects accelerate towards or away from us near the speed of light
Imagine the horror if the earth accelerated at such extreme speeds on a regular basis.
How do you know it doesn’t? Science.
Or rather imagine the horror if the earth accelerated at such speeds DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE SUN 😬😂
Not for long at least…
Okay, class. We’re going to watch NOVA today.
“Earth: God’s Baby Rattle”
There is a very small amount of red shift. If you were standing on the equator watching a sunset, then your radial velocity relative to the sun is only ~461m/s. So the green light from the sun 550nm would be red shifted by +0.0008nm. That little red shift wouldn’t be noticeable. However, as the sun sets there’s a lot more atmosphere in the way, which scatters blue light more than red light (Why the sky is blue). Also in a sunrise you are moving towards the sun, so sunrises would be blue! :P
Are you sure those numbers are right? The proportions of 550nm/0.08nm and c/461m/s are very different.
Oops you’re right missed a few zeros.
Dunno, I’m still waiting for HL3 so I haven’t played that expansion yet
I feel like there’s a lot of these, where someone says “how do you explain [extremely basic, everyday thing] without [religion]?”, it’s kinda weird. Like being a certain level of religious makes you immune to all common sense.
I think what they are trying to say is that the emotional experience they have when they look at a sunset is similar to the emotional experience that gives them conviction that there is a God. It's not a statement of objective fact about the universe and its processes; it's a statement about their mental and emotional life and how they want to feel inside their own head.
Although, maybe they are saying that no one knows how sunsets work and so therefore a wizard did it. I would hope it is that first thing though.
I feel like it has to be the second thing, but not everyone has those religious experiences, and even the religious don’t always correlate these things to God. It just requires so many layers of weird assumption that I really don’t know what to think.
“… that I really don’t know what to think.”
There, you’re starting to get it! That’s exactly what the religious do. Get confused, start using “god did it” as a gap filler in their knowledge, and soon, they “know” less than nothing.
There is still a decent chance it’s the second tbh. Fucking magnets/tide goes in etc.
God’s just a burst of dopamine.
Dopamine used to be considered the generic pleasure chemical, but I think it’s not anymore. Has more to do with reward pathways and learning, maybe?
In my experience of these zealot types, it's that they don't want to know the answer, and won't accept any answer that isn't literally bulletproof all the way back to the beginning of time - no matter what you tell them, God did it.
It's like playing a pigeon at chess. It'll shit on the board and then strut around like it won.
Well that’s a fairly consistent pov. “God of the Gaps” is what it’s called. Ostensibly, that sort of person accepts new evidence for things, so it’s probably not one of the worst ways to think
No, it’s not “god of the gaps” to deny elementary school education.
This post is specifically selecting for the complete morons who won’t even listen to a basic explanation of refraction…
If you say, “well a lot of religious people will say that!” then yes. Yes, religious people are morons.
Yeah, I'm aware of the "God of the Gaps" idea.
But that's not what I'm talking about, nor are those the types of people I'm talking about - people willing to take in new ideas are a much friendlier bunch.
The zealot types, the self-proclaimed "sceptics" don't just avoid learning about science, they actively oppose it. They ask questions like those @Ibaudia said not because they want to know the answer, but because they're trying to sow seeds of doubt into those who see them.
Those questions aren't made for you or I to answer - and if you do try, they'll shout you down or sandbag you until you give up.
Quite fitting, then, that the Venn diagram of people who would literally shoot bullets at a question and people who are religious is pretty much a circle 😉
These are emotional people with absolutely no care or enjoyment for reason or logic or learning how the world works. I believe strongly that the way our brains develop as we grow, be it influences from environment or genes or upbringing, just can go in radically different directions. Kind of like how some people have no internal monologue, or some people can’t visualize images in their mind, I think some people can’t comprehend the world outside of a very “mystical” interpretation, even when taught how physics and evolution work, they still will see those forces as expressions of a mystical universe with a personal, subjective God who is trying to communicate with them.
You absolutely cannot reason with this kind of perspective because it’s not one of reason. The MOST you can hope for is getting them to feel something, and in this I have only ever found common ground in things like expressions of love for the universe or the beauty of nature, but that’s like one person going to the baseball game to watch the game, and the other to eat the food.
Well, you’re right.
Bad deal, stadion food is usually overpriced.
They’re just shuffling cards. They will make whatever mouth noises get to their foregone conclusion. This is how they perform loyalty to the ingroup.
They think that’s all you’re doing, because they think that’s all there is.
“Tide comes in, tide goes out. You can’t explain that!” —Bill O’Reilly
<img alt="tide goes in" src="https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/a709bfd5-c75e-40c2-ac2b-651d17b9d2fa.jpeg">
<img alt="r u serious" src="https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/75d377be-f843-4535-b200-13d0d695293a.jpeg">
It’s not that we can’t explain it, it’s that you can’t understand it.
<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/efb4fbed-6b87-4ed3-87e8-759c17699c3d.gif">
Tide comes in, tide goes out. Explain that, atheists!
idiot
Same way I’d explain a sciency-type person who doesn’t know the difference between there, their and they’re.
They’re*
This needs a /s.
Nah, this isn’t reddit.
That’s the online universal way to indicate sarcasm
That’s a really rudimentary question for a religious person to ask. But then again nothing really surprises me anymore. Oh wait more than likely a non-Muslim / non-Jew would ask such a question. Carry on.
Their is the ciense
Thank you r/atheism
Get a ball, hold it between your eye and a light source. I know that some natural phenomena are hard to explain, but this one is really easy to conceptualize.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b4cd5a5e-ee24-45d1-ae7d-52e7663f23fd.jpeg">
Sunset and twilight are my fave parts of the day. The colours are just so pretty…Thank you, rayleigh scattering!
Oh? And is this “Rayleigh” here in the room with us right now??
When we’re talking about sun sets, I heard somewhere (a meme with jesus ?) which says the pink is pollution.
Iny info about the pink in the sunset?
Cheers
BTW yesterdays sunset here :
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2e5fb2de-5d2c-4d48-81cd-51e0b8570025.jpeg">
THEIRS IS NO GOD. THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS THOR
LIAR !!! The only real gods are ms. spagetti monster, and Tlaloc.
And i only worship one of those 2.
My favourite is the one where they use bananas as proof of God. (Always boring monothiests, too…
Also she used the wrong “there.”