Acetaminophen (ingredient in Tylenol) has patent that already expired, so anyone can produce it. Yeah, Johnson and Johnson owns the brand, but at this point I don’t think it would affect their stock.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Sep 04:11
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Kenvue (spun off from j&j) is primary manufacturer of Tylenol and their stock hit record low right before the Trump speech actually
So are they going to ban Tylenol or what? Isn’t it one of the most common OTC painkillers?
thejml@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Sep 22:52
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I believe they say it’s only for the pregnant mothers taking it causing autism to their unborn babies.
This perfectly fits into all MAGA’s Project 2025 tenants:
Women don’t matter and Women’s healthcare should be reduced and their bodies controlled
Don’t care about babies that have been born, just the unborn ones
Blame things without any evidence to enforce solutions that profit the companies who pay into the administration and people who have been appointed there.
Don’t forget children! So many kids are going to get brain damage or die because Trump just went up with a bunch of disgraced doctors and told people not to give any fever reducers unless absolutely necessary
Moving forward, the CDC will merely advise against pregnant mother’s taking acetaminophen. Dumb, but not the bog deal many are making it out to be. The antivax shit is 10,000 times worse.
Not in my lifetime. I’m middle-aged. We might have slid by with Trump 1.0, but having elected him again after the first nightmare administration? Nah, the US won’t be trusted for 50 years or more. And we won’t have the economy or soft power to project influence. It’s all over but the shouting.
LaterRedditor@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 18:36
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Sorry, only cocaine from now.
13igTyme@piefed.social
on 22 Sep 23:10
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That’s what happens when a snake oil salesman is given a government job.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 06:54
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Milking snakes, you say?
insert busty furry snake
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 21:13
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Is it still a furry if it has scales?
VivianRixia@piefed.social
on 22 Sep 23:21
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Wait iHerb is a Dr. Oz company? Dang, I’ve used them several times, gotta remember to avoid them in the future
Dionysus@leminal.space
on 22 Sep 23:52
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It’s a really bad move by iHerb. They made him a brand ambassador or some shit in 2023. The company was doing fine then they had to get in bed with Brainworms’ buddy.
You can find all sorts of info on the press releases. Bunch of really lame brain marketing bullshit.
jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 01:11
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Regardless of who owns it, I’m not sure I would trust any other supplement marketplace. I’m never buying supplements from Amazon ever again.
(for reading convenience, these are links for Rhonda Byrne, James A. Ray, Mehmet Oz, The Awareness Center, Deepak Chopra and Chirstiane Northrup. Her rap sheet is a lot (a lot) longer but I need to go to work)
The behind the bastards episodes on Oprah were enlightening
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 04:06
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After the Oprah episodes they did a compilation episode of all of the bastards Oprah gave us that they’d previously covered, including Dr Phil. It was like 9 hours long. I couldn’t finish it.
hopesdead@startrek.website
on 23 Sep 05:32
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Phil McGraw, I like to point out has a bad reputation and still got a prime time drama about his career on CBS called Bull.
There are been allegations that the work environment on the set of his talk show was toxic for those working on it. On top of that, there had been allegations that guest who were on certain types of medications would have it withheld before taping. Separate from this there was allegations that guest would often be given alcohol and illicit drugs before taping.
I’ve only watched like five minutes of this show ever, where a mother tried reaching out to her daughter that was engaged in sex work. She wanted to get her daughter to stop the sex work. Everything McGraw said was vile and victim blaming about the daughter’s lifestyle. It was utterly disgusting.
The was quite literally the playbook of Andrew Wakefield when he published the 1998 fraudulent paper in the Lancet that purported to link MMR vaccines to autism, kicking off our entire modern round of anti-vax nonsense.
He stood to make millions selling test kits to people suddenly fearful of vaccination, IIRC. They’re all scum, seeking to rake in money on the very fears they’ve stoked.
The entire antivaxx movement has 7 people at its core, all of whom have something to sell.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone
on 23 Sep 00:08
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The Wikipedia preview in duck duck go search when searching for Tylenol ingredient list now states that tylenol causes autism, the page doesn’t include the update but notes it’s being affected by current events.
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website
on 23 Sep 00:39
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I think this is based on poor understanding of genetics. A lot of neurodivergent people have mutations in a gene (MTHFR) that deals with processing folate, but that doesn’t mean they have reduced folate by itself. But, taking folic acid if you have decreased ability to process it can actually cause health problems. I’m not sure what the difference is for folinic acid, but this just all sounds very pharma-bro and unscientific to me
TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Sep 01:47
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You should watch hbomber vid on vaccines and autism if you are prepared for a bit of rage. It’s def not based on any science or any poor understanding
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website
on 23 Sep 02:17
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My brain doesn’t handle videos very well, what’s the summary?
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth
on 23 Sep 03:07
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A corrupt doctor did horrible things to vulnerable child patients (e.g. dangerous colonoscopies without proper consent) in order to make a B.S. article claiming the MMR vaccine causes autism, all to help a friend sell an alternative—separate Mumps, Measles, and Rubella vaccines—and make a shitload of money. It backfired, he lost his medical license and accidentally convinced half the U.S. that all vaccines are evil.
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 04:02
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And Jenny McCarthy needed a scapegoat for why her child had “Autism.”
(Quotes because autism was all I heard, but neurodivergent wasn’t in common nomenclature back then…)
But if you go all the way back to the start of this…it’s the girl from singled out’s fault, she was duped by the horrible doctor too
TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Sep 16:37
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All vaccine/ autism pseudoscience that saw prominence starting in the 90’s based on one fraudulent paper written by a guy who claimed to be a doctor but was just straight up abusing kids to back up his claims and to sell his own product which was just MMR vaccine delivered in three seperate shots.
Product developed before fraudulent paper.
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website
on 23 Sep 18:34
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I’m aware of that. I am not sure why you told me to watch that video when I was trying to figure out why they chose folinic acid supplements specifically. Because folic acid and folinic acid can really make people with MTHFR deficiency sick, and for some it also worsens their autism symptoms.
TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Sep 01:22
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Probably because someone already mentioned they have stock in it but uhh, sorry to step on your toes? God
I did an undergrad report on MTHFR in regards to how smoking reduces folate levels which can lead to birth defects in babies whose mothers smoked during pregnancy. Did not know about the neurodivergence connection! Might give that avenue a read
How can “Dr. Oz” sell folinic acid? Isn’t it prescription-only in the US?
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Sep 04:08
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Leucovorin is the prescription version and is much higher dosage (mg range) whereas supplements are much lower (mcg range). This potentially clears a path for Dr oz to sell way more folinic acid (like literally 1000x more) or opens the door for a few manufacturers of generic leucovorin (gsk is the original but basically abandoned it years ago)
But it’s literally the same substance… weird stuff.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 23 Sep 20:51
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There are many prescription versions of supplements but they’re often rarely prescribed because of cost unless there is a specific need. Prescription meds are actually regulated though (supplements are not regulated in any way) so they are superior, albeit far more costly. But because supplements are unregulated there is no way to be sure the advertised dosage is correct, or the advertised compound is even present (though some manufacturers do independent testing tbf)
Take vitamin d for example. Most Americans (and most people in the world, tbh) are deficient. But your doctor will likely tell you to just get vitamin d supplements even though prescription cholecalciferol exists. That is typically only used for serious deficiencies, like if you need 50,000iu weekly. But it is manufactured in more traditional dosages like 1-2000iu for daily use.
But in America for a great deal of people who are either uninsured, underinsured, or even with decent insurance cholecalciferol will almost always be significantly more expensive than simply buying a supplement vitamin d3, so the supplement is recommended. And this is one of the cheapest possible examples. Deplin vs levomefolic acid for example is much more dramatic of a price difference
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space
on 23 Sep 01:55
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Speed running government distrust so they can begin auctioning off the public sector and taking their sweet cut
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 16:48
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And when these MAGA morons give their autistic kid “the cure” and it doesn’t work they’ll blame democrats for “tainting it” or some stupid bullshit idk I fucking hate it here
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Sep 17:16
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Damn I guess someone has a transparent browser window and didnt realize their desktop could be seen in the screen shot lol good eyes
DarkFuture@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 18:50
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Everyone knows we’re not coming back from this, right?
Pandora’s Box is open. Cat is out of the bag. Genie is out of the bottle.
Bury all these fucks 6 feet under and it’s still already too late. The institutions have been weakened. Brains have been rotted. Copycats will step up to fill the vacuum. Congress is still infected. It’s over.
It’ll be like the end of Return of The King. It’ll take a while, but it’s still the ending.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world
on 23 Sep 22:36
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It’s like they’re trying to be fascists but they’re so bad at it. All they can do is run around and jerk each other off while telling their goons to go harrass minorities
BilboBargains@lemmy.world
on 24 Sep 15:18
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Excellent news. Autism finally squared away. We can dedicate our scientists to finding a cure for trumpism.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
on 24 Sep 16:58
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most pregnant women have been taking folic acid supplements for 40 years.
I keep forgetting to comment this, but does anyone else remember RFK jr setting a September deadline for “curing Autism”? Like, I remember it being a big deal at the time because that’s not really how science works. Right wingers tried to contrast it with Biden claiming he would find a cure for cancer, but he didn’t set himself an arbitrary deadline to make that happen.
How suspicious is it that he nailed his deadline window for discovering the “cause” and now has a bogus cure in the chamber as well? Nevermind the fact that they don’t provide any actual evidence of any of these claims.
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Buy the dip on tylenol
Acetaminophen (ingredient in Tylenol) has patent that already expired, so anyone can produce it. Yeah, Johnson and Johnson owns the brand, but at this point I don’t think it would affect their stock.
Kenvue (spun off from j&j) is primary manufacturer of Tylenol and their stock hit record low right before the Trump speech actually
marketwatch.com/…/kenvue-says-tylenol-is-safe-but…
Just waiting for him to start pushing Forsynthia as the cure to measles.
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Finally we are seeing real American healthcare. This was never about healing or helping people and this is the real reason why we make so much drugs.
So are they going to ban Tylenol or what? Isn’t it one of the most common OTC painkillers?
I believe they say it’s only for the pregnant mothers taking it causing autism to their unborn babies.
This perfectly fits into all MAGA’s Project 2025 tenants:
Don’t forget children! So many kids are going to get brain damage or die because Trump just went up with a bunch of disgraced doctors and told people not to give any fever reducers unless absolutely necessary
Moving forward, the CDC will merely advise against pregnant mother’s taking acetaminophen. Dumb, but not the bog deal many are making it out to be. The antivax shit is 10,000 times worse.
The damage to trust in the US’ institutions and government is tremendous, and will not likely be repaired in our lifetimes.
Not in my lifetime. I’m middle-aged. We might have slid by with Trump 1.0, but having elected him again after the first nightmare administration? Nah, the US won’t be trusted for 50 years or more. And we won’t have the economy or soft power to project influence. It’s all over but the shouting.
Sorry, only cocaine from now.
That’s what happens when a snake oil salesman is given a government job.
Draining the Swamp so they can Milk the Snake 🤯
Milking snakes, you say?
insert busty furry snake
Is it still a furry if it has scales?
Wait iHerb is a Dr. Oz company? Dang, I’ve used them several times, gotta remember to avoid them in the future
It’s a really bad move by iHerb. They made him a brand ambassador or some shit in 2023. The company was doing fine then they had to get in bed with Brainworms’ buddy.
You can find all sorts of info on the press releases. Bunch of really lame brain marketing bullshit.
Regardless of who owns it, I’m not sure I would trust any other supplement marketplace. I’m never buying supplements from Amazon ever again.
Kirkland Brand is fine.
Honestly, I blame Ophra Winfrey for propping up that quack TV host.
Do not get me even started
(for reading convenience, these are links for Rhonda Byrne, James A. Ray, Mehmet Oz, The Awareness Center, Deepak Chopra and Chirstiane Northrup. Her rap sheet is a lot (a lot) longer but I need to go to work)
The behind the bastards episodes on Oprah were enlightening
After the Oprah episodes they did a compilation episode of all of the bastards Oprah gave us that they’d previously covered, including Dr Phil. It was like 9 hours long. I couldn’t finish it.
Phil McGraw, I like to point out has a bad reputation and still got a prime time drama about his career on CBS called Bull.
There are been allegations that the work environment on the set of his talk show was toxic for those working on it. On top of that, there had been allegations that guest who were on certain types of medications would have it withheld before taping. Separate from this there was allegations that guest would often be given alcohol and illicit drugs before taping.
I’ve only watched like five minutes of this show ever, where a mother tried reaching out to her daughter that was engaged in sex work. She wanted to get her daughter to stop the sex work. Everything McGraw said was vile and victim blaming about the daughter’s lifestyle. It was utterly disgusting.
Fuck clipping health insurance CEOs and college-touring bigots, these are the ones…
Grifters are going to grift. Using the government to grift doesn’t surprise me.
What hurts the most is how many people are so desperate that they are going to buy into some snake oil and not actually get any help.
The was quite literally the playbook of Andrew Wakefield when he published the 1998 fraudulent paper in the Lancet that purported to link MMR vaccines to autism, kicking off our entire modern round of anti-vax nonsense.
He stood to make millions selling test kits to people suddenly fearful of vaccination, IIRC. They’re all scum, seeking to rake in money on the very fears they’ve stoked.
The entire antivaxx movement has 7 people at its core, all of whom have something to sell.
The Wikipedia preview in duck duck go search when searching for Tylenol ingredient list now states that tylenol causes autism, the page doesn’t include the update but notes it’s being affected by current events.
Anyway what about the epstein files?
I think this is based on poor understanding of genetics. A lot of neurodivergent people have mutations in a gene (MTHFR) that deals with processing folate, but that doesn’t mean they have reduced folate by itself. But, taking folic acid if you have decreased ability to process it can actually cause health problems. I’m not sure what the difference is for folinic acid, but this just all sounds very pharma-bro and unscientific to me
You should watch hbomber vid on vaccines and autism if you are prepared for a bit of rage. It’s def not based on any science or any poor understanding
My brain doesn’t handle videos very well, what’s the summary?
A corrupt doctor did horrible things to vulnerable child patients (e.g. dangerous colonoscopies without proper consent) in order to make a B.S. article claiming the MMR vaccine causes autism, all to help a friend sell an alternative—separate Mumps, Measles, and Rubella vaccines—and make a shitload of money. It backfired, he lost his medical license and accidentally convinced half the U.S. that all vaccines are evil.
And Jenny McCarthy needed a scapegoat for why her child had “Autism.”
(Quotes because autism was all I heard, but neurodivergent wasn’t in common nomenclature back then…)
But if you go all the way back to the start of this…it’s the girl from singled out’s fault, she was duped by the horrible doctor too
All vaccine/ autism pseudoscience that saw prominence starting in the 90’s based on one fraudulent paper written by a guy who claimed to be a doctor but was just straight up abusing kids to back up his claims and to sell his own product which was just MMR vaccine delivered in three seperate shots. Product developed before fraudulent paper.
I’m aware of that. I am not sure why you told me to watch that video when I was trying to figure out why they chose folinic acid supplements specifically. Because folic acid and folinic acid can really make people with MTHFR deficiency sick, and for some it also worsens their autism symptoms.
Probably because someone already mentioned they have stock in it but uhh, sorry to step on your toes? God
I did an undergrad report on MTHFR in regards to how smoking reduces folate levels which can lead to birth defects in babies whose mothers smoked during pregnancy. Did not know about the neurodivergence connection! Might give that avenue a read
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Hey its that scene from Sweeny Todd where they sell piss, but its the government. Meat pies anyone?
Ugh, and folinic acid is just a vitamin that can, in some cases and conditions, help with some language processing issues.
Like it can help with apraxia. It’s not a cure for autism. Or anything.
It’s just a vitamin. Like taking vitamin E against cancer. You couldn’t make this shit up.
How can “Dr. Oz” sell folinic acid? Isn’t it prescription-only in the US?
Leucovorin is the prescription version and is much higher dosage (mg range) whereas supplements are much lower (mcg range). This potentially clears a path for Dr oz to sell way more folinic acid (like literally 1000x more) or opens the door for a few manufacturers of generic leucovorin (gsk is the original but basically abandoned it years ago)
But it’s literally the same substance… weird stuff.
There are many prescription versions of supplements but they’re often rarely prescribed because of cost unless there is a specific need. Prescription meds are actually regulated though (supplements are not regulated in any way) so they are superior, albeit far more costly. But because supplements are unregulated there is no way to be sure the advertised dosage is correct, or the advertised compound is even present (though some manufacturers do independent testing tbf)
Take vitamin d for example. Most Americans (and most people in the world, tbh) are deficient. But your doctor will likely tell you to just get vitamin d supplements even though prescription cholecalciferol exists. That is typically only used for serious deficiencies, like if you need 50,000iu weekly. But it is manufactured in more traditional dosages like 1-2000iu for daily use.
But in America for a great deal of people who are either uninsured, underinsured, or even with decent insurance cholecalciferol will almost always be significantly more expensive than simply buying a supplement vitamin d3, so the supplement is recommended. And this is one of the cheapest possible examples. Deplin vs levomefolic acid for example is much more dramatic of a price difference
Speed running government distrust so they can begin auctioning off the public sector and taking their sweet cut
Not iHerb! That’s my go to shop. Any alternative to recommend?
I know! Is the only way to get decent peanut butter in some countries. Guess I’m going to have to learn how to make peanut butter.
EBay.
I knew it was gonna be dumb, but fuck-a-duck! I was not expecting fucking Tylanol to get blamed
Apparently someone of Kenvue Inc. (owner of the Tylenol brand) forgot to pay the bribe.
Next week it will be some random product that Bayer makes that may or may not be linked to autism.
Could have been worse, like realizing it’s genetic and issuing mandatory sterilizations to both the autistic people and their parents.
There’s still time!
It is men taking power over women and deciding how they should be treated. What else to expect from a rapist?
Dreading when USA Thalidomide moment comes
And when these MAGA morons give their autistic kid “the cure” and it doesn’t work they’ll blame democrats for “tainting it” or some stupid bullshit idk I fucking hate it here
They don’t think [the rest of this post has been omitted for being redundant]
What the hell are those faint watermark looking things on the image?
smudgey bulletproof glass
No over the whole screenshot. Open the full image, it’s a lot of text
<img alt="" src="https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/a21a1b3c-8124-4687-b7b5-a4395ec77911.webp">
Damn I guess someone has a transparent browser window and didnt realize their desktop could be seen in the screen shot lol good eyes
Everyone knows we’re not coming back from this, right?
Pandora’s Box is open. Cat is out of the bag. Genie is out of the bottle.
Bury all these fucks 6 feet under and it’s still already too late. The institutions have been weakened. Brains have been rotted. Copycats will step up to fill the vacuum. Congress is still infected. It’s over.
It’ll be like the end of Return of The King. It’ll take a while, but it’s still the ending.
It’s like they’re trying to be fascists but they’re so bad at it. All they can do is run around and jerk each other off while telling their goons to go harrass minorities
Excellent news. Autism finally squared away. We can dedicate our scientists to finding a cure for trumpism.
most pregnant women have been taking folic acid supplements for 40 years.
Look it works, I have never seen a pregnant autist. Check mate!
… /s
I keep forgetting to comment this, but does anyone else remember RFK jr setting a September deadline for “curing Autism”? Like, I remember it being a big deal at the time because that’s not really how science works. Right wingers tried to contrast it with Biden claiming he would find a cure for cancer, but he didn’t set himself an arbitrary deadline to make that happen.
How suspicious is it that he nailed his deadline window for discovering the “cause” and now has a bogus cure in the chamber as well? Nevermind the fact that they don’t provide any actual evidence of any of these claims.