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from usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml to science_memes@mander.xyz on 21 Jun 23:14
https://lemmy.ml/post/17150960

Someone else on mastodon found this masto.ai/@stavvers/112655306069874958

EDIT: they might actually be the original author of that? I can’t find this indexed anywhere else online (google, google scholar, and google books all turn up nothing or just that mastodon post)

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Mango@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 00:04 next collapse

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damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 01:40 next collapse

Is the point meant to be that women don’t build off of their previous work as much as men? lol

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This “science meme” needs more science and less meme, imo, lol

usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml on 22 Jun 01:57 next collapse

Not necessarily. Self citation is different than building on your previous work. You might just seek to use other citations for the relevent concepts

Edit: the 2015 paper this is referencing lists many differing potential reasons for it. Ranging from worrying more about negative feedback for self citation to being more likely to being more critical of their own work

journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/2378023117738903

MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml on 22 Jun 23:19 collapse

Yeah, I feel like a good middle ground is to cite your previous work in the context of “as we previously reported,” but maybe that’s just based on something that was ingrained in me by academia. It seems tacky. My boss has no problem with it though, he’s like, “idgaf, more citations, more views, higher impact.”

vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Jun 19:00 collapse

Also we chase women out of academia by early mid-career, so they have less opportunity for self citation.

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 14:49 collapse

Uh, women graduate college at a rate much higher than men in the US, this is total bullshit, lol.

vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Jun 16:26 collapse

First of all, at best it’s tangentially related. There are a lot of steps between graduation with a collage degree (which in the U.S., let’s face it, usually means a bachelors) and being a mid career researcher.

Second, if anything it underscores my point - that women are dropping out of academia faster than men.

But we don’t have to speculate. We have lots of statistics about this. Women leave academia at higher rates than men. This is not really up for debate.

rockSlayer@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 02:02 collapse

Based.

Edit: What paper is this from? Preferably a sci-hub link

usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml on 22 Jun 02:19 collapse

Now that I’m looking for it, I can’t find it anywhere, I think it might just be something unpublished from the person on mastodon. Would make sense with them saying they love footnotes

01101000_01101001@mander.xyz on 23 Jun 00:08 collapse

Would be super easy to make a LaTeX document on Overleaf just for the Internet points