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from fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz on 27 Jun 18:01
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hddsx@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 18:13 next collapse

Clearly I didn’t pay attention in chemistry

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 18:27 next collapse

Doesn’t an acid have to be an acid, though?

pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jun 19:10 next collapse
DoubleSpace@lemm.ee on 27 Jun 19:30 next collapse

It can behave like an acid by donating a proton when mixed with a stronger base.

brokenlcd@feddit.it on 27 Jun 19:54 next collapse

amphotericity is some weird shit, so yes. Water also an acid. (100% butchered the translation)

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 00:05 collapse

In that situation, is it called hydroxic acid, as OP says?

CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 00:14 collapse

yes, but also in other situations too. It’s a valid name for water.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 27 Jun 23:42 collapse

When you mix it with water, it’ll form a hydronium ion, what else do you need?

leftzero@lemmynsfw.com on 27 Jun 19:16 next collapse

Oxidane.

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Jun 20:03 next collapse

Beware of Dihydrogen Monoxide. It’s very dangerous!!!

  • Causes thousands of deaths annually (via inhalation)
  • Accelerates corrosion of metals
  • Found in every cancerous tumour
  • Major component of acid rain
  • Leads to severe burns in gas form
  • Detected in baby food and vaccines

⚠️⚠️⚠️

Anomalocaris@lemm.ee on 27 Jun 22:34 next collapse

Star rust is also a cool name

xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jun 05:11 next collapse

Here’s some other dank names from the Wikipedia info card thing:

  • Oxidane
  • Hydrogen oxide
  • Hydrogen hydroxide (H2O or HOH)
  • Hydroxylic acid
  • Dihydrogen monoxide
  • Dihydrogen oxide
  • Hydric acid
  • Hydrohydroxic acid
  • Hydroxic acid
  • Hydroxoic acid
  • Hydrol
  • μ-Oxidodihydrogen
  • κ1-Hydroxylhydrogen(0)
  • Aqua
  • Neutral liquid
  • Oxygen dihydride
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org on 28 Jun 05:50 next collapse

I agree that hydroxile hydride is the best, but the dihydro ether one is wrong. Ethers are defined by carbon bound to oxygen. No carbon bound to oxygen? No ether!

ornery_chemist@mander.xyz on 28 Jun 16:54 collapse

Hydroxyl hydride feels wrong given that hydride is H-. So what’s a good name for HO+…? Oxenium hydride? Hydrenium hydride? (comparing carbonium (CR4H+) vs carbenium (CR3+) and oxonium/hydronium (H3O+))

Wrufieotnak@feddit.org on 28 Jun 17:34 collapse

Good point, maybe hydroxonium for OH+? I just know I never want to be in the same lab as a real OH+ species. Sounds like one of those “things I don’t want to work with”

ornery_chemist@mander.xyz on 28 Jun 18:14 collapse

-onium is usually an extra group/proton (carbonium, oxonium, bromonium…). HO+ isn’t too hard to approximate–just take a hydroperoxide or peroxyacid and add strong acid like with piranha :)

toynbee@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 06:40 next collapse

Where?

ornery_chemist@mander.xyz on 28 Jun 16:49 collapse

I think oxenium hydride would be more appropriate than hydroxyl taking into account the polarity of the two fragments (HO+ and H-), though AFAIK there is no standardized name for HO+.