Its only wrong because humans have decided its wrong, when you think about it.
During roman times, it was common with complete orgies. Society makes up these rules as it goes.
Being attracted to other humans is natural and very difficult to resist. I think a lot of this stuff happens all the time.
PunnyName@lemmy.world
on 19 Jul 20:58
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It’s wrong based on consent.
If one party in the married pair – who consented to be with each other forever, usually in front of many others – defies that consensual agreement, then what they did is wrong.
Otherwise you can just use a thought-terminating cliche like “all rules / words / ideas are made up” and end any meaningful discourse.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jul 21:17
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Yep, that’s it. I’ll never understand why the cheater doesn’t just break the marriage up if there is infidelity. He looks too old to be this immature.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
on 19 Jul 21:35
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Money / social fallout. Every single time. Divorces are expensive, and so is therapy for your kids family structure loss trauma.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jul 21:51
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It’s also wrong because they work for a company that probably says subordinate-supervisory relationships are forbidden because of the power imbalance and complications around how a personal relationship–or even the perceptions of one-- might affect workplace decisions–to say nothing of the invitation of harassment lawsuits. Co-workers–even non-supervisory-- who might even be at the same “level” or their work brings them together for anything can be incredibly problematic. All of this is even at a local, department or site level to say nothing of C-level consequences. This also says nothing of the fact that one of them is in charge of the function, HR, who would be the person most responsible for ensuring this kind of conduct didn’t happen between employees. The hypocrisy and abdication of duty couldn’t be more severe. Both have lost all credibility with anyone in their company, which means they cannot lead others.
complications around how a personal relationship–or even the perceptions of one-- might affect workplace decisions
Agreed with everything you said. Just wanted to add the term “conflict of interest” to this part. If they had to make a decision that was good for the team and/or the customer, but bad for their lover, they might not make the best decision.
If you don’t want to be exclusive then don’t enter into an exclusive relationship.
I agree we could be less uptight about open relationships, but this is really about a rich filthy person being humiliated at a time when most of us feel powerless to stand up to money in any real capacity.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jul 23:58
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I’m in a married, committed relationship with my partner because that is how we both decided this is the kind of relationship we want.
We also have friends who are married but see other people openly, and both parties are aware, and their additional partners know that they are married.
Neither one is right or wrong, it’s what works for them.
In this case, both people went into their marriage with the intent to remain monogamous. These two did not honor that. That is why is wrong - it’s not about seeing other people if that is the initial agreement. It’s the lie, which both of them did.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 00:39
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During roman times, it was common with complete orgies.
oh fam thank you… I needed a good laugh…
Why did the Romans construct so many buildings? for their ORGIES
Why did the Romans build acqueducts? to clean up after the ORGIES
Why did the Romans make their roads? to get to their ORGIES
Why did the Romans conquer so many people? because they needed folks for their ORGIES
thank you, friend. fwiw you’re kinda right about morality being a social construct, but I don’t know if that’s the best takeaway from all this.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
on 20 Jul 06:05
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I think a lot of this stuff happens all the time.
sure. and people get caught cheating all the time. because that’s what it is, if you agreed to monogamy, this is cheating. I strongly suspect both of them agreed with different people to keep things monogamous, hence their panic.
UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jul 23:37
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‘Random’ couple gets put up on big screen during the kiss cam or something during a cold play concert since they were embracing each other and it seemed like a nice moment. Said couple immediately turn away from eachother and try to hide. Coldplay singer says they must be having an affair. Turns out theyre both married, higher ups in a company, and having an affair with each other.
From those two stills, you’re not gonna guess their reaction. I feel like lots of people have seen the video, but here on Lemmy, you always just get the stills…
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 12:54
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LOL even just the first picture by itself… there’s only 1 reason it would be of any interest.
Some kind of drama, probably of the affair kind, but who knows? Maybe it was just a great reaction to a jump scare out of a loving couple. Maybe it was people at a zoo getting manured by a rhino.
These two stills are the only context I have. I’ve seen them twice in the same day, so it’s probably topical, but it could be from the 90s and made relevant by a certain list or something.
My first thought was certain politicians getting freaky in a puplic theatre on security cams though, so not too far off.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 00:39
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lmao ratted out by some dorky radiohead ripoff lol
They ratted on themselves. Hundreds of couples get put on the screen on coldplay concerts and nobody remembers them. It was their stupid reaction, as if a sniper was going to shoot them, that made the clip go viral.
Had they not reacted at all they would’ve been forgotten like everyone else.
They were warned even, Chris Martin always warns audiences of the camera before hand so they could’ve gone into the back for a minute and been on zero risk of this happening. But a guilty consciousness ousted them.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com
on 20 Jul 00:00
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What’s pissing me off about it now is people eating up the fake statement that the guy “released”. Neither of them have commented on it.
What was that claim? And is there some equivalent of TLDR I can preemptively use about whatever news coverage contains this info which I don’t want to look up and wish to ignore if I eventually come across it?
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Jul 05:07
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Their employees and partners probably WorldCom found out about it but it wouldn’t have become the eternal meme it is now.
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This whole situation is kinda like the Streisand effect; nobody would have know who they were if they didnt react
But guilt made them react. They knew what they were doing was wrong, but did it anyway.
Its only wrong because humans have decided its wrong, when you think about it.
During roman times, it was common with complete orgies. Society makes up these rules as it goes.
Being attracted to other humans is natural and very difficult to resist. I think a lot of this stuff happens all the time.
It’s wrong based on consent.
If one party in the married pair – who consented to be with each other forever, usually in front of many others – defies that consensual agreement, then what they did is wrong.
Otherwise you can just use a thought-terminating cliche like “all rules / words / ideas are made up” and end any meaningful discourse.
Yep, that’s it. I’ll never understand why the cheater doesn’t just break the marriage up if there is infidelity. He looks too old to be this immature.
Money / social fallout. Every single time. Divorces are expensive, and so is therapy for your kids family structure loss trauma.
Then don’t cheat? Pick one or the other.
Edit: this isn’t directed at you.
Right? Like I don’t understand the mindset.
some people are literally in it for the money. :|
He is probably a selfish rich narcissist is why?
You’re only thinking of the morality side of it.
It’s also wrong because they work for a company that probably says subordinate-supervisory relationships are forbidden because of the power imbalance and complications around how a personal relationship–or even the perceptions of one-- might affect workplace decisions–to say nothing of the invitation of harassment lawsuits. Co-workers–even non-supervisory-- who might even be at the same “level” or their work brings them together for anything can be incredibly problematic. All of this is even at a local, department or site level to say nothing of C-level consequences. This also says nothing of the fact that one of them is in charge of the function, HR, who would be the person most responsible for ensuring this kind of conduct didn’t happen between employees. The hypocrisy and abdication of duty couldn’t be more severe. Both have lost all credibility with anyone in their company, which means they cannot lead others.
Agreed with everything you said. Just wanted to add the term “conflict of interest” to this part. If they had to make a decision that was good for the team and/or the customer, but bad for their lover, they might not make the best decision.
Orgies still happen. Open relationships, too.
If you don’t want to be exclusive then don’t enter into an exclusive relationship.
I agree we could be less uptight about open relationships, but this is really about a rich filthy person being humiliated at a time when most of us feel powerless to stand up to money in any real capacity.
I’m in a married, committed relationship with my partner because that is how we both decided this is the kind of relationship we want.
We also have friends who are married but see other people openly, and both parties are aware, and their additional partners know that they are married.
Neither one is right or wrong, it’s what works for them.
In this case, both people went into their marriage with the intent to remain monogamous. These two did not honor that. That is why is wrong - it’s not about seeing other people if that is the initial agreement. It’s the lie, which both of them did.
CONSENT
oh fam thank you… I needed a good laugh…
Why did the Romans construct so many buildings? for their ORGIES
Why did the Romans build acqueducts? to clean up after the ORGIES
Why did the Romans make their roads? to get to their ORGIES
Why did the Romans conquer so many people? because they needed folks for their ORGIES
thank you, friend. fwiw you’re kinda right about morality being a social construct, but I don’t know if that’s the best takeaway from all this.
sure. and people get caught cheating all the time. because that’s what it is, if you agreed to monogamy, this is cheating. I strongly suspect both of them agreed with different people to keep things monogamous, hence their panic.
no one: pursues
the guilty: flees
Is this deep or am I just stupid?
It’s pretty deep for a bible verse
“The wicked flee when none persueth, but the riteous go bold as a lion” or something like that
The writers never hear about anxiety.
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‘Random’ couple gets put up on big screen during the kiss cam or something during a cold play concert since they were embracing each other and it seemed like a nice moment. Said couple immediately turn away from eachother and try to hide. Coldplay singer says they must be having an affair. Turns out theyre both married, higher ups in a company, and having an affair with each other.
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It was kinda implied though right?
From those two stills, you’re not gonna guess their reaction. I feel like lots of people have seen the video, but here on Lemmy, you always just get the stills…
LOL even just the first picture by itself… there’s only 1 reason it would be of any interest.
I don’t think about affairs a lot…
I couldn’t figure out that it was a kisscam at all. I was thinking a photo booth or theatre.
Yeah but why would it be on the front pages?
Some kind of drama, probably of the affair kind, but who knows? Maybe it was just a great reaction to a jump scare out of a loving couple. Maybe it was people at a zoo getting manured by a rhino.
These two stills are the only context I have. I’ve seen them twice in the same day, so it’s probably topical, but it could be from the 90s and made relevant by a certain list or something.
My first thought was certain politicians getting freaky in a puplic theatre on security cams though, so not too far off.
lmao ratted out by some dorky radiohead ripoff lol
They ratted on themselves. Hundreds of couples get put on the screen on coldplay concerts and nobody remembers them. It was their stupid reaction, as if a sniper was going to shoot them, that made the clip go viral.
Had they not reacted at all they would’ve been forgotten like everyone else.
They were warned even, Chris Martin always warns audiences of the camera before hand so they could’ve gone into the back for a minute and been on zero risk of this happening. But a guilty consciousness ousted them.
What’s pissing me off about it now is people eating up the fake statement that the guy “released”. Neither of them have commented on it.
What was that claim? And is there some equivalent of TLDR I can preemptively use about whatever news coverage contains this info which I don’t want to look up and wish to ignore if I eventually come across it?
Their employees and partners probably WorldCom found out about it but it wouldn’t have become the eternal meme it is now.
How the hell did your autocorrect turn that into “WorldCom”? Is that something you type out a lot? 😅
Speech to text most likely and then not checking what you’re posting.
It wasn’t speech to text but obviously no, I didn’t check.
unattractive selection choice on both their parts…
even light sounds better than coldplay
Why does anyone give a fuck about these people?
The fact they were both cheating only matters to them and their families. There’s no illegality. Happens millions of time a day.
This world is terrible and it’s fun to see tech executives get their comeuppance