On your advice, I read it. Good essay. Yes, the image is Whatever, but the creative part for this post was the pun, so I still gave it an upvote because I havenât heard it death.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
on 25 Aug 13:54
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Yeah, I upvoted it too
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Aug 06:00
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If the second group performed âfar betterâ than the first group then this isnât regression to the mean, is it? I would expect the gap to be much less or even eliminated but for the Plus C Bow group to do much better there should be something else at play, right?
Yeah, plus the selection process was weird. Any gains attributed to the plus-C bow group just throws question to the initial rankings.
They should have done a crossover trial, where group A is a random selection of archers initially getting no C bows, and then later getting them, and vice versa for group B. Paired t-tests, yâall!
Yeah, but the meme is a joke about how you can prove anything with regression to the mean. If all archers are equally good and we test them we would get varying results. If we then split them on performance and perform an intervention and test again then the âpoor performingâ group will do much better. Because itâs just random noise.
Yeah, so much so that people believe this meme is reality, even though google turns up not a single result for âplus c bow effectâ that has anything to do with archery. Neither does any google search on the story.
The whole post is placebo, aka pure AI slop.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world
on 25 Aug 10:47
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Iâm still deciding if the payoff was worth the buildup.
squaresinger@lemmy.world
on 25 Aug 10:53
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Image: Bad AI.
Text: Bad AI.
Source: Bad AI.
Neither the name of the effect nor the story turn up any results on google.
This is not a science meme, but instead a âMy first AI memeâ.
xcutie@linux.community
on 25 Aug 13:16
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So bad that it is good again.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 25 Aug 14:34
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âLooks like a textbook case of regression to the meme.â
and the 49 others
âThe only thing they absorbed was a regression to the beam â the arrow beam.â
âWho knew Vitamin C causes regression to the keen eye?â
âWhen stats and supplements collide: regression to the green (bullseye).â
âTurns out confidence is the real supplement â powered by regression to the believe.â
âOr maybe they just regressed to the mean⊠skill level.â
âThat performance boost? Just a natural regression to the scene.â
âArchery improvement through citrus? More like regression to the scheme.â
âThey didnât level up. The top archers just regressed to the lean.â
"Proof that a placebo is the best coach: regression to the mean.
âThey didnât get better â the universe just whispered: regress to the mean.â
âTurns out Vitamin C stands for Cleverly Explained Regression to the Mean.â
âPerformance arrows pointed up⊠but so did statistical bias: regression to the seen.â
âSome call it magic. Statisticians call it regression to the mundane.â
âItâs not the C â itâs the statistical destiny of regression to the mean.â
âNext up: a study on whether laughter also causes regression to the meme.â
âThe bows werenât juiced â the results just regressed to the clean.â
âThey didnât gain skill, the others just had a bad day: regression to the lean.â
âVitamin C doesnât boost skill â the numbers just had a date with regression to the mean.â
âThis study sponsored by: Misinterpretation of Regression to the Meanâą.â
âPlot twist: the arrows didnât improve â the stats just regressed to the serene.â
âAmazing what belief â and regression to the mean â can do.â
âThe real target hit here? Regression to the mean. Bullseye!â
âThey didnât shoot better. Stats just had their say: regress to the mean.â
âWhen low-skill archers shoot better, you either call it a miracle or regression to the mean.â
âIt wasnât the Vitamin C â it was the C-cret power of regression to the mean.â
âYou can coat the bow, but you canât coat the stats: regression to the mean always wins.â
âItâs all fun and games until someone explains regression to the mean at a party.â
âThey didnât absorb energy â just a strong dose of statistical probability a.k.a. regression to the mean.â
âJust a classic case of skill balancing out: the old regression to the quiver.â
âVitamin C? More like Vitamin See: Regression to the Mean at Work.â
âA placebo a day keeps the stats in play â regression to the mean in action.â
âEven arrows canât escape the gravitational pull of regression to the mean.â
âThey shot better, sure â but that was just the sweet sting of regression to the beam.â
âArchers rise, others fall â the stats always call for regression to the mean.â
âWelcome to the archery bell curve â where we all regress to the mean.â
âYou donât need Vitamin C when youâre already due for a regression to the mean.â
âThis study is brought to you by the letter C⊠and regression to the mean.â
âEveryone loves a good comeback â especially one powered by regression to the mean.â
âForget bows. The real force here was regression to the unseen.â
âIs it magic? Nope. Just your friendly neighborhood regression to the mean.â
âThis is why we canât have nice data â it all regresses to the mean.â
âTurns out âgetting betterâ was just them catching a ride on the regression to the mean bus.â
âThe arrows didnât improve. The curve just regressed toward equilibrium.â
âVitamin C: the leading cause of misattributed regression to the mean.â
âIf you listen closely, you can hear statisticians screaming: âItâs just regression to the mean!ââ
âLetâs not bow down to pseudoscience â this is pure regression to the scene.â
âDonât let this data fool you â itâs just regression to the extreme.â
âWhen skill varies wildly, the only constant is regression to the mean.â
âOne day youâre bottom 50, the next youâre top⊠thank you, regression to the dream.â
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It works!
Looks like foreground guy is drawing across range.
I think heâs going for the live target holding a target.
Good thing none of them exist.
AI photography is so stupid. That target's got legs. Handsome ones, too.
Thatâs just the new range staffer holding the target. Materials are expensive with the tariffs and all, so you gotta cut costs somewhere.
Thatâs the intern not a staffer. Kind of you to assume they are people.
Also they all hold the bows completely wrong.
Angled arm, turned the wrong side, wtf?
Looks realistic to me!
<img alt="" src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GsHcu4zkCHU/hqdefault.jpg">
Surely itâd be easy to just find an actual stock photo to use here. But it doesnât matter because the background just needed to be Whatever.
That write-up is well worth the read.
On your advice, I read it. Good essay. Yes, the image is Whatever, but the creative part for this post was the pun, so I still gave it an upvote because I havenât heard it death.
Yeah, I upvoted it too
If the second group performed âfar betterâ than the first group then this isnât regression to the mean, is it? I would expect the gap to be much less or even eliminated but for the Plus C Bow group to do much better there should be something else at play, right?
Yeah, plus the selection process was weird. Any gains attributed to the plus-C bow group just throws question to the initial rankings.
They should have done a crossover trial, where group A is a random selection of archers initially getting no C bows, and then later getting them, and vice versa for group B. Paired t-tests, yâall!
Yeah, but the meme is a joke about how you can prove anything with regression to the mean. If all archers are equally good and we test them we would get varying results. If we then split them on performance and perform an intervention and test again then the âpoor performingâ group will do much better. Because itâs just random noise.
Oh I see, thanks
Am I missing a joke?
The joke is they failed to isolate the variable
Placebo <=> plus c bow
ohh, tanks!
Placebo hellowa drug.
Yeah, so much so that people believe this meme is reality, even though google turns up not a single result for âplus c bow effectâ that has anything to do with archery. Neither does any google search on the story.
The whole post is placebo, aka pure AI slop.
Iâm still deciding if the payoff was worth the buildup.
Image: Bad AI.
Text: Bad AI.
Source: Bad AI.
Neither the name of the effect nor the story turn up any results on google.
This is not a science meme, but instead a âMy first AI memeâ.
You missed the pun.
Fair.
Image: Bad AI (true)
Text: Iâll bet itâs written by a human.
Source: Itâs a joke!
See other comments if you missed it
Lemmy users not crying about AI challenge: impossible
AI users not giving me eye cancer challenge: impossible
RIP your eyes friend, who knew something so inconsequential would ruin them so badly. I hope you find peace in blindness.
Lemmy users crying about AI seems to be as common as AI users calling themselves creative. I wonder if thereâs a correlation?
I am astounded how many commenters donât seem to get the pun
It got reports for it. đ„č
So bad that it is good again.
âLooks like a textbook case of regression to the meme.â
and the 49 others
âThe only thing they absorbed was a regression to the beam â the arrow beam.â âWho knew Vitamin C causes regression to the keen eye?â âWhen stats and supplements collide: regression to the green (bullseye).â âTurns out confidence is the real supplement â powered by regression to the believe.â âOr maybe they just regressed to the mean⊠skill level.â âThat performance boost? Just a natural regression to the scene.â âArchery improvement through citrus? More like regression to the scheme.â âThey didnât level up. The top archers just regressed to the lean.â "Proof that a placebo is the best coach: regression to the mean. âThey didnât get better â the universe just whispered: regress to the mean.â âTurns out Vitamin C stands for Cleverly Explained Regression to the Mean.â âPerformance arrows pointed up⊠but so did statistical bias: regression to the seen.â âSome call it magic. Statisticians call it regression to the mundane.â âItâs not the C â itâs the statistical destiny of regression to the mean.â âNext up: a study on whether laughter also causes regression to the meme.â âThe bows werenât juiced â the results just regressed to the clean.â âThey didnât gain skill, the others just had a bad day: regression to the lean.â âVitamin C doesnât boost skill â the numbers just had a date with regression to the mean.â âThis study sponsored by: Misinterpretation of Regression to the Meanâą.â âPlot twist: the arrows didnât improve â the stats just regressed to the serene.â âAmazing what belief â and regression to the mean â can do.â âThe real target hit here? Regression to the mean. Bullseye!â âThey didnât shoot better. Stats just had their say: regress to the mean.â âWhen low-skill archers shoot better, you either call it a miracle or regression to the mean.â âIt wasnât the Vitamin C â it was the C-cret power of regression to the mean.â âYou can coat the bow, but you canât coat the stats: regression to the mean always wins.â âItâs all fun and games until someone explains regression to the mean at a party.â âThey didnât absorb energy â just a strong dose of statistical probability a.k.a. regression to the mean.â âJust a classic case of skill balancing out: the old regression to the quiver.â âVitamin C? More like Vitamin See: Regression to the Mean at Work.â âA placebo a day keeps the stats in play â regression to the mean in action.â âEven arrows canât escape the gravitational pull of regression to the mean.â âThey shot better, sure â but that was just the sweet sting of regression to the beam.â âArchers rise, others fall â the stats always call for regression to the mean.â âWelcome to the archery bell curve â where we all regress to the mean.â âYou donât need Vitamin C when youâre already due for a regression to the mean.â âThis study is brought to you by the letter C⊠and regression to the mean.â âEveryone loves a good comeback â especially one powered by regression to the mean.â âForget bows. The real force here was regression to the unseen.â âIs it magic? Nope. Just your friendly neighborhood regression to the mean.â âThis is why we canât have nice data â it all regresses to the mean.â âTurns out âgetting betterâ was just them catching a ride on the regression to the mean bus.â âThe arrows didnât improve. The curve just regressed toward equilibrium.â âVitamin C: the leading cause of misattributed regression to the mean.â âIf you listen closely, you can hear statisticians screaming: âItâs just regression to the mean!ââ âLetâs not bow down to pseudoscience â this is pure regression to the scene.â âDonât let this data fool you â itâs just regression to the extreme.â âWhen skill varies wildly, the only constant is regression to the mean.â âOne day youâre bottom 50, the next youâre top⊠thank you, regression to the dream.â
Confusing-ass perspective. It looks like all the archers are standing with their left foot forward and holding the bow in their right hand.