ook@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Jul 19:06
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I know it is a meme, but I feel this is a little too belittling of climate change being responsible for increase in temperature. Like, I can see this unironically shared on Facebook and twitter with people being “hurrdurr, fake climate change, heat comes from sun!!!”.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 20:20
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The solution to climate change is to blow up the sun. Obvious. … Edit: /s
Pandantic@midwest.social
on 14 Jul 21:51
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Yeah, someone should put an Onion watermark on this thing for safety!!
My conspiracy theorist mom shared stuff like this all the time. This will absolutely be shared among climate change deniers as they roll coal on their way to the funeral for their daughters who died in the Texas floods.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Jul 13:30
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It’s one of Alex Jones and several of his “sources” main apologetic for climate change. They claim the sun is the “main driver for climate change.”
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Jul 22:32
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This is like some Trump logic right here
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jul 19:53
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Idk anything about stars or solar systems, but when my house gets too hot I just close the curtains and it helps everything cool down. Maybe we can close earth’s curtains and will fix it?
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
on 14 Jul 20:55
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1950s general with itchy trigger finger and extra nuclear bombs:
“Hold me beer!”
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 20:56
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This does happen and it’s an effective way to decrease the temperature:
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 23:24
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I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jul 21:10
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A orbiting, remotely positional, moon-sized sun shade? That’s crazy enough to work I think you’ve solved the heatwave here
_stranger_@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 21:39
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That’s literally a photo of it happening at the only scale that matters. The solution is that once the moon is there, we just need to stop it from moving away.
Problem solved forever.
Pandantic@midwest.social
on 14 Jul 21:59
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Couldn’t we do this in a more localized way for large cities? Like a big ol’ shade satellite for areas being dangerously affected by heat waves? I know it’s just a bandaid but we will need these kinds of extreme weather mitigation techniques to keep us alive so we can solve climate change or die trying.
Ps I’m not a scientist, so this is a sci-fi idea only - as in idk the maths of what this would take.
It’s not really hard to implement at all but would just trade pest for cholera. We could just burn a lot of coal again, the dustier and dirtier the better. But that’s pretty bad for air quality but it would seriously cool the planet.
There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I’m not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn’t do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we “wouldn’t have to”, but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere.
Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It’s mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article)
Xande@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Jul 21:15
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The number of times I’ve had to explain to adults that the sun is a star is way more than it should be. It never stops being so disappointing too that even the most basic shit, not this exclusively, is just something so many people don’t know, think about, have any interest in and don’t ever read more than the sparse title about that thing in the news (those titles and articles often being partly of fully false).
PrincessTardigrade@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 23:15
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I’ve explained to many adults, many with college educations, that insects are animals. Understandable for those who don’t realize corals are animals, but they think bugs are plants or something? Smh
Also, “The experiences of non-human animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.”
arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de
on 15 Jul 12:57
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Reminds me of when Beatrix von Storch, politician from the far-right German party AfD, once suggested suing the sun for damages done by climate change in an interview.
Yeah it’s a funny joke, but this kind of shit actually works on people to an alarming degree.
I think it’s an extension of dunning-kruger, essentially. These dummies love “knowing” something that all those smug educated people that study it for a living somehow do not know. It’s something I see in my more conservative relatives too, the need to put others down to establish your legitimacy.
Even decades ago I remember hearing in conservative media the revelations that water vapor was a greenhouse gas, or that methane was, or that the sun goes through cycles, or that the earth’s orbit isn’t perfectly circular. Every single time it was discussed with the wonder of that brain exploding in space dude meme. Just flinging that confusion and doubt in all directions, knowing that each piece will probably be the thing that convinces part of the audience.
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Big if true. Maybe as much as 330,000 the mass of the earth.
That’s like… 1 sun. What a coincidence!
Ya know, that does sound pretty BIG!
With some rough calculations it might be 0.00001578 Light Years far.
Hmm that’s about 1 AU, coincidence ? 🤔
I know it is a meme, but I feel this is a little too belittling of climate change being responsible for increase in temperature. Like, I can see this unironically shared on Facebook and twitter with people being “hurrdurr, fake climate change, heat comes from sun!!!”.
The solution to climate change is to blow up the sun. Obvious. … Edit: /s
Yeah, someone should put an Onion watermark on this thing for safety!!
My conspiracy theorist mom shared stuff like this all the time. This will absolutely be shared among climate change deniers as they roll coal on their way to the funeral for their daughters who died in the Texas floods.
It’s one of Alex Jones and several of his “sources” main apologetic for climate change. They claim the sun is the “main driver for climate change.”
They should try to extinguish it… with water…
Well, if you add enough water quickly enough, it should cool down.
And if you add it slowly enough, it should go out after “just” a “short” while.
I doubt this would work. The sun runs on hydrogen fusion. Adding water is just adding fuel to fire.
Never know until you try!
And adding more fuel to a fire make it burn hotter and faster. Largers stars die faster, so more fuel will reduce the lifespan.
Yes, but more massive stars burn out faster. And even more massive stars turn into black holes and cool down rapidly.
Well… black holes are not cool, either.
This is like some Trump logic right here
Idk anything about stars or solar systems, but when my house gets too hot I just close the curtains and it helps everything cool down. Maybe we can close earth’s curtains and will fix it?
1950s general with itchy trigger finger and extra nuclear bombs:
“Hold me beer!”
This does happen and it’s an effective way to decrease the temperature:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b3103b69-6dd7-4f62-a023-99ddd2d575c6.jpeg">
Might be difficult to implement at scale though.
But more importantly, what color should the curtains be?
Should they match the drapes?
You mean the carpet?
I just realized the saying is “Do the carpets match the drapes” but in my head I was thinking “Do the curtains match the drapes”. Even though curtains and drapes are similar. Brain fart.
A orbiting, remotely positional, moon-sized sun shade? That’s crazy enough to work I think you’ve solved the heatwave here
Simpsons did it!
That’s literally a photo of it happening at the only scale that matters. The solution is that once the moon is there, we just need to stop it from moving away.
Problem solved forever.
Couldn’t we do this in a more localized way for large cities? Like a big ol’ shade satellite for areas being dangerously affected by heat waves? I know it’s just a bandaid but we will need these kinds of extreme weather mitigation techniques to keep us alive so we can solve climate change or die trying.
Ps I’m not a scientist, so this is a sci-fi idea only - as in idk the maths of what this would take.
The structure you describe is called a Soleta. If you are interested, space nerds have explored the possibilities in some detail.
It’s not really hard to implement at all but would just trade pest for cholera. We could just burn a lot of coal again, the dustier and dirtier the better. But that’s pretty bad for air quality but it would seriously cool the planet.
Wouldn’t filling the air with dark and absorbing gasses warm the planet?
Aerosols aren’t gases in the classial sense and reflect sunlight. This works especially well high up in the atmosphere.
…nasa.gov/…/aerosols-small-particles-with-big-cli…
There are studies that collect data around volcano eruptions and coal power plants getting online and offline. Long story short: Climate is complicated; I’m not a climate scientist and not to be trusted; it would work great at cooling the planet; we definitely shouldn’t do it (yet?) because it masks the temperature problem and could lead to us not reducing CO2 because we “wouldn’t have to”, but it could be a tool if we might be on the edge of a catastrophic runaway effect that causes too much water to evaporate into the atmosphere.
Update: Btw, you are right about dark particles low in the atmosphere, those typically warm the planet. It’s mainly sulfur dioxide aerosols byproduct that cool the planet (also mentioned in the NASA article)
I knew it!
I’ve been saying this for years!
Can everyone not focus on the Sun? -Dotard 47
SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN!
Don’t Talk To Me Or My Sun Ever Again
The number of times I’ve had to explain to adults that the sun is a star is way more than it should be. It never stops being so disappointing too that even the most basic shit, not this exclusively, is just something so many people don’t know, think about, have any interest in and don’t ever read more than the sparse title about that thing in the news (those titles and articles often being partly of fully false).
I’ve explained to many adults, many with college educations, that insects are animals. Understandable for those who don’t realize corals are animals, but they think bugs are plants or something? Smh
I think for many people, when they say animal, they think vertebrate. When asked what insects are, they can’t answer.
This and “humans are animals”. It’s shocking the amount of times I’ve had to argue this.
Also, “The experiences of non-human animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.”
Why is Saturn bigger than the sun?
Perspective can’t be the answer.
But it’s behind the sun, so perspective should make it even smaller! Also this is obviously to scale.
fake.
Why would libs put it there in the first place?
We better destroy it just to be safe
Reminds me of when Beatrix von Storch, politician from the far-right German party AfD, once suggested suing the sun for damages done by climate change in an interview.
Link: youtu.be/IV8UzT_9bXg (englisch subs available)
Also den Fremdscham, den ich bei dieser Menge an pseudowissenschaftlichen trara verspürte… cringre^10
Yeah it’s a funny joke, but this kind of shit actually works on people to an alarming degree.
I think it’s an extension of dunning-kruger, essentially. These dummies love “knowing” something that all those smug educated people that study it for a living somehow do not know. It’s something I see in my more conservative relatives too, the need to put others down to establish your legitimacy.
Even decades ago I remember hearing in conservative media the revelations that water vapor was a greenhouse gas, or that methane was, or that the sun goes through cycles, or that the earth’s orbit isn’t perfectly circular. Every single time it was discussed with the wonder of that brain exploding in space dude meme. Just flinging that confusion and doubt in all directions, knowing that each piece will probably be the thing that convinces part of the audience.