Graduate students provide enormous value for their cost in funding. I’d like to better understand how k-12 students contribute here. Those students make up 88.7k of the reduction. How much do these students contribute and at what cost?

I’m in no way against inspiring the next generation. My question is aimed at correctly interpreting this table. The NSF is a worthwhile expense, but let’s understand the data we have.

When a mommy scientist and daddy scientist love each other a lot, they pray to Caffeine and Nicotine, the gods of late-night trivial tasks…

they do, sadly they are recognized well, unless your in a independant lab(not part of the degree)

The tweet gave me the impression that these people lose their jobs. But it turns out that’s not entirely true, because it also counts undergrad and preK students who participate in a program one way or another. That’s still bad, but not as bad as the tweet suggests. Surely there is a better way to represent the budget request?

Scientist are merely born this way

As I understand these NSF-funded research projects are only part of the entire curriculum. So it would be a misrepresentation to say that the US is “getting rid of” these students. They will still study and get a degree, they’ll just have a harder time finding an appropriate research project. That’s still bad, but not the same as what is claimed by the tweet.

Sorry, i misread it that they would want to get rid of a quarter of their people and omitted the million.

No, you’ll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren’t going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You’ll never exceed them again.

Especially given that even in the best case scenario the period of recovery will be 8 years maximum. No matter who will be the next president, the one after will be another angry conservative, and I don’t believe there will be a lot of progress after.

5 months, he was inaugurated January 20th

But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?

But was Cambodia really an empire?

At least all the people in Idiocracy were united and happy in their ignorant world.

The lowest bar ever.

*Trump voters

in research? English is enough in most countries I think, I have friends here (France) who just start learning french after 10 years living here 😅 they just didn’t need it before

You’ll get by just fine everywhere on english, but it’ll be hard to integrate and make local friends without learning the language

If you’re willing to learn at any pace, and can do at least some “skilled work” as they call it, then just about everywhere. Usually you have 5 to 10 years to learn the language if you want to stay permanently. You can get by with English in most of europe.
Usually, if there is not a lot of jobs you can do speaking English, it means that the region isn’t exactly rich and/or accommodating anyway.

Almost anywhere in Europe is the answer. My son did his masters in Denmark and never learned Danish. He lives in Germany now and speaks fuck all German.

Once in the Netherlands, after losing my glasses I asked an optician if he could speak English and he was thoroughly insulted.

Britain and Ireland are both native English.

As others said, you’ll get by with just speaking English - if you’re serious think of what would matter aside from language: a life in Italy will be very different than a life in German, not only the weather but also the work culture. Also think of which countries ‘match’ your education, being somewhere with loads of jobs in your expertise will make things a lot easier. I’d advise anyone able to move from US to Europe to take a leap of faith - if it doesn’t work out and the US has by then returned to normal you can just move back and if it doesn’t work out and america didn’t return to normal you’ll likely be happy at least you got out before it got real bad.

What’s the story of the Alpaca farms?

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It’s his bloody piss.

Uhh…because….pee trickle down?

It’s a graph of the global status of the US, you can put in any value of your choice

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How about a great grandparent. My grandma was born in NYC but great grandad came from Ireland into Ellis island.

I mean, you’re good at it and all, but posting memes doesn’t really seem that specialized…

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China currently churns out more college graduates than any other country, and the rate is increasing.

And they had a hell of a way to go given that it was less than 1% when they took over.

What makes you think that? Nazi Germany was very interested in science and engineering, at least in the disciplines that develop weapons.

If you’re in Denmark and speak English to anyone, nobody bats an eye. You’re welcome.

Yeah he knew about ten words of Danish after over three years there before he moved to Germany. Even his lectures were in English which I was surprised at.

He has had to learn a little German but not that much and he’s there about 18 months now. The office he works in has folks from all over so they just use English.

Netherlands also in my experience basically everyone can speak perfect English.

I prefer to try to use a bit of the local language when I’m travelling myself as I find folks react well to the effort.

I’m terms of offence, it’s unlikely. I’d imagine tourists are common enough everywhere. I have reasonable French myself so I do try to use it when there so I can’t say for France specifically.

If you’ve any other questions I can pass them on to the young lad.

As a Spaniard and former researcher myself, in Spain you can also move without learning Spanish, just apply to the offers in English in Barcelona or Madrid. Those are the best positions anyway. You will struggle more than in Denmark for sure without it, but it’s just because a lot of people speak very little or very poorly. In the big cities it’s much better though.

Long term I’d advise you to keep looking in the north of Europe, Spain is likely to fuck researchers over again as they did during the 2008 crisis.

Spain is a better choice, but in Germany are more people speaking English, on the other hand pretty right wing. But in academic circles it becomes irrelevant.

Not to kill the joke, but I was given these by a close friend who lives there now. These are all tailored to English speakers.

They need more parties. The two party system is forever broken

Yeah pretty much, Trump had ties to the Russian mob. Beyond that, they probably poured money into the MAGA movement for God knows how many senators. Putin won. Well played really.

Explain why you would intentionaly get rid of cost saving EV’s? Either they are a total cult, of actively trying to make America as miserable place to live as possible.

GOP’s decisions only make sense if they are in it for the sadistic thrill of torturing and killing millions.

As an outsider, I honestly and sincerely invite anyone to explain how any of what’s going on in the US today isn’t as American as apple pie and school shootings?

America is still slightly ahead of Russia there, due to the legacy of the USSR. Not that Russia’s billionaires aren’t doing their best to privatize education and keep it out of reach of the peasantry since the fall of communism.

Russia is actually significantly better to live in than America, and it is a total shithole.

no, but it safer than if a authoritarian is control, like trump, Russia, and china. until those other countries in europe starts attacking science(defunding, jailing them, or alternative “science”) its better than the US.

In the “first world” sphere that regularly ignores and denigrate any country that could be perceived as inferior even if it’s not necessarily, then yes, maybe. We’re doing great over here in some places that are often overlooked.

Good one

Probably more important is the next paragraph:

There are a few alternative timelines. Some scholars extend the end date of the golden age to around 1350, including the Timurid Renaissance within it,[6][7] while others place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries, including the rise of the Islamic gunpowder empires.

The Ottomans managed to siege Vienna centuries after the end of the Golden Age. They were not that behind in technology. Really the big change happened with the industrial revolution, which the islamic world mostly failed to implement. However at least the Ottomans managed to do a good enough job, to stand the ground against the Brits. Of the none Western world only Japan and depending on how you look at it Russia was better at adopting Western science and technology.

Iran and Moghul India did much worse though.

Their golden age was long gone.

They might have had another if the US hadn’t pushed them around.

I’d argue Nixon started it.

The suffering is just a side effect. Massive death is the goal, they just don’t want to have to get their hands dirty.

I still don’t understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to?

I’m increasingly believing that they don’t actually care about anyone other then themselves.

Their only goals are self-serving greed.

And the methods they intend to use to serve that narrow goal are extremely short sighted and lacking any peripheral vision.

I think the ultra rich are preparing for the collapse of global civilization in our lifetimes. And they’re preparing by extorting as much wealth from the people as possible, now, to build redoubts to retreat to, and hire private armies to defend themselves, to bunker down until the wars are over.

Their long-term priority is not the financial health of their companies or their countries. Their long-term priority is surviving World War III and global mass starvation on an unimaginable scale.

Look. Climate change is really fucking bad. However bad you think it is, it’s worse. And the global economy is really fucking fragile.

Think about what happens when China or India get hit with a major drought and hundreds of millions face death by famine. Or when the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets go and a billion people in coastal cities are flooded out. Economic disruptions, supply chain breakdowns, a refugee crisis beyond anything the world’s ever seen. And as nations get more and more desperate to feed their own people, as the world produces less and less food and less and less clean water, war becomes inevitable.

And war will break supply chains even more. People who aren’t locally self-sufficient in food and water won’t be able to get food and water from outside their area. Even people who are self-sufficient will become less so as climate change fucks with agriculture. Result? Billions dead of starvation.

(In this interpretation, Trump’s obsession with Canada and Greenland makes a lot more sense. When the ice caps melt, that’ll be some of the most valuable real estate on the planet.)

Who will they sell to? Nobody. The ultra rich are planning for a future where global population is under a billion and most survivors have been knocked back to subsistence farming. They’re setting themselves up to be the techno-feudalist lords of a post-capitalist, post-democracy society.

Deleting science education just helps keep the peasants quiet, so they don’t realize what’s happening until it’s too late.

(Okay, alternate explanation: the people in charge are old men who want to make as much money as possible before they die and don’t care about the long-term future at all. That’s a much more banal explanation, but more likely to be true - after all, the environment is collapsing now because oil executives in the '60s and '70s looked at the very accurate predictions of climate change their scientists gave them and thought “who cares, I’ll be dead by then”. But Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, the other young-ish technocrats? I think they know collapse is coming and are using it as an opportunity to build a new post collapse world in their image.)

It is not hard to understand if you think that money is just a number, practically is just used to obtain power and influence, and they’re using it for that. Once everyone is a slave, what do you need to sell

It’s probable that they’re betting on technological innovation to bring about a post-scarcity economy where profit and capital are irrelevant. And relatively speaking, that could a good thing.

The issue is instead of taking a reasonable utilitarian approach, these people would rather lean on things like:

unmitigated greed

racism

a romanticization of historical imperialism

the social construct within the Western capitalist mindset to incessantly seek new frontiers of exploitation

and the insidious belief that other people don’t deserve to participate in such a society; either because of their beliefs or because of immutable characteristics that deem them unworthy or otherwise burdensome to the system.

IMO, the tragedy is that while the rich want to bet on consolidating enough capital to shoot themselves out into space, the statistical likelihood that they will find anything within reach that even remotely resembles the beauty and habitability of our planet is very low. Too bad they will kill all of us first before realizing that.

Something something, when we cut down the last tree and poison the last river…

We’re moving towards an economy of low volume luxury good vs mass produced goods for the average person. Basically the floor will just keep rising until less and less people can afford things. The people who still can afford things will be getting nicer and more expensive stuff as time goes on.

They goal is to get rich, they are mostly old, thinking I’m death in 10 years and fuck the next generations. If the country crashed, well then I can continue living in a Mansion in Dubai with an coctail in the hand. Plunder policy.

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Here’s to hoping for a similar result.

Surely this would help with the decaying birthrates.